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Post by stokevegas on Dec 6, 2014 20:41:47 GMT
If he's the future the DNA programme should be consigned to the bin.
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Post by philm87 on Dec 6, 2014 20:51:34 GMT
Yup. And I think most Arsenal fans actually agree with us too
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Post by ohbottom on Dec 6, 2014 20:55:30 GMT
And Kieron Gibbs, fucking hell  |
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Post by 2004 on Dec 6, 2014 23:53:42 GMT
He is absolute dogshit
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Post by Davef on Dec 7, 2014 0:27:13 GMT
That first goal; laugh out loud. Ryan hasn't done that in 302 Stoke City appearances.
If that's what passes as "international class", Ryan's better off out of it.
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 7, 2014 0:33:22 GMT
Today, we saw two players who Roy Hodgson thinks are capable of making up 50% of an international defence. Chambers was appalling - how many bookings has he picked up now compared to 'dirty' Shawcross? It really makes a mockery of the rubbish about Ryan not being able to play for England because of all the bookings he'd get. As for Gibbs, he was just torn apart by Walters. He looked no better than Cresswell of West Ham, or the hundreds of dross mediocre full backs that we've seen at Stoke in our journey through the divisions.
It could almost make you weep for the national team. What's going on. Are we all stupid? Is there something obvious we're missing?
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 7, 2014 0:42:31 GMT
Mystifying.
Obviously a few very influential people like him - and that's seemingly all it takes to get a bit of a bandwagon behind you, especially when you're at a club like Arsenal, even if they're a total Emperors New Clothes laughing stock defensively
And then the journos, sheep-like start parroting it so as not to be the one to go against the conventional wisdom. He's the next big thing simply because enough people with a megaphone say he is - and that becomes that!
He's obviously raw, but he makes the kind of deer-in-headlights mistakes Shawcross worked out of his game 6 years ago. And yet one is the sexy future of the national team, and one's a limited thug.
Funny old world. But that's how life works.
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Post by Davef on Dec 7, 2014 0:42:57 GMT
Ryan has four yellow cards this season; one of them for tying his bootlaces up.
He's played at Anfield, Old Trafford and come up against the likes of Sanchez, Wellbeck, Chamberlain and Cazorlala in the past eight days and picked up one booking (and that was because Geoff Cameron was shit).
He's an absolute colossus. Anyone who thinks he not good enough to play for England is a cock.
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Post by march4 on Dec 7, 2014 0:46:51 GMT
Ryan Shawcross would have been captain of England for the last 2 years had we a manager worthy of running our national team.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 0:55:25 GMT
If I was as old and tired as Hodgson and on £ 6 million a year .....I wouldn't want to leave Hampshire and Dorset to view Northern maniacs either....
Common sense....sports editors pick the team .
You all should know this by now.
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Post by stokeoptimist on Dec 7, 2014 10:04:10 GMT
Ryan has four yellow cards this season; one of them for tying his bootlaces up. He's played at Anfield, Old Trafford and come up against the likes of Sanchez, Wellbeck, Chamberlain and Cazorlala in the past eight days and picked up one booking (and that was because Geoff Cameron was shit). He's an absolute colossus. Anyone who thinks he not good enough to play for England is a cock. Perfect assessment that |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Dec 7, 2014 10:07:16 GMT
Ryan has four yellow cards this season; one of them for tying his bootlaces up. He's played at Anfield, Old Trafford and come up against the likes of Sanchez, Wellbeck, Chamberlain and Cazorlala in the past eight days and picked up one booking (and that was because Geoff Cameron was shit). He's an absolute colossus. Anyone who thinks he not good enough to play for England is a cock. I'm a cock.  |
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 7, 2014 10:08:38 GMT
Strangely enough Mark I agree with that.
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 7, 2014 10:08:56 GMT
Chambers has secured his place in the next England squad on that performance. When asked about Shawcross, Hodgson said "who?"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 10:09:43 GMT
9 yellow cards and 1 red for Chambers now.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Dec 7, 2014 10:10:24 GMT
Chambers has secured his place in the next England squad on that performance. When asked about Shawcross, Hodgson said "who?" Bloody hell. Woy was talking to a lot of people yesterday. Where were you when he said that? |
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Post by RAF on Dec 7, 2014 10:14:11 GMT
The only reason Chambers gets into the England Squad is because Roy Hodgson is a liar.An owl faced incompetent hypocritical feckless cunt of one too!
No other reason.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 7, 2014 10:15:12 GMT
In the space of a year, he's gone from 2nd choice Southampton right back to first choice Arsenal centre back and England regular.. something is not right here.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Dec 7, 2014 10:33:08 GMT
In the space of a year, he's gone from 2nd choice Southampton right back to first choice Arsenal centre back and England regular.. something is not right here. Seems perfectly reasonable given the daft bastard we have managing the national team. |
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Post by andylgr on Dec 7, 2014 10:35:09 GMT
Not putting his head through nzonzis cross was embarrassing for the first goal.
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Post by jeycov on Dec 7, 2014 10:37:59 GMT
Today, we saw two players who Roy Hodgson thinks are capable of making up 50% of an international defence. Chambers was appalling - how many bookings has he picked up now compared to 'dirty' Shawcross? It really makes a mockery of the rubbish about Ryan not being able to play for England because of all the bookings he'd get. As for Gibbs, he was just torn apart by Walters. He looked no better than Cresswell of West Ham, or the hundreds of dross mediocre full backs that we've seen at Stoke in our journey through the divisions. It could almost make you weep for the national team. What's going on. Are we all stupid? Is there something obvious we're missing? For al of his faults, Harry would have taken a look at players from every club and possible Crouch international career would have lasted just a little longer and the likes of Shawcross would have been given another chance after his one appearance. Will Roys visit to the Britannia yesterday make any difference? |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 7, 2014 10:40:53 GMT
In the space of a year, he's gone from 2nd choice Southampton right back to first choice Arsenal centre back and England regular.. something is not right here. Seems perfectly reasonable given the daft bastard we have managing the national team. True, If I Was England manager and saw the first goal I wouldn't pick him ever again. |
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