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Post by malteser68 on Dec 2, 2014 21:45:50 GMT
I've said this since the very first matches of the season. He had an excellent season last year and was looking forward to a great World Cup. He was hoping to getting noticed in the WC with some excellent displays and get snapped by a big club. That didn't happen and so he had to come back to lowly stoke which was definitely not what he was hoping for. Hence his dramatic drop in form. He needs to sit the next few matches IMO
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Post by Bombus on Dec 2, 2014 21:46:46 GMT
Jesus Christ.
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Post by borat on Dec 2, 2014 21:48:15 GMT
I can't believe how poor he is, it's not just 1 game too it's been A LOT this season. He saves fuck all that is on target, he was shocking for the second goal too, Butland please.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Dec 2, 2014 21:49:25 GMT
Amazing save at one point tonight.
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Post by tazi on Dec 2, 2014 21:50:35 GMT
Class is permanent but a loss of confidence can hit at anytime.
I'm dismayed at seeing such a top top keeper struggling like this.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 2, 2014 21:50:57 GMT
I think Begovic is the least of our problems at the moment.
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Post by Kjones9 on Dec 2, 2014 21:51:05 GMT
At least it's one position we can replace.
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Post by 2004 on Dec 2, 2014 21:52:32 GMT
You can tell he has lost confidence by the fact he is rooted to his line. He is not commanding the area like he used to.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 21:52:57 GMT
I get the feeling that things are going on in the background. No inside information and just a hunch.
He hasn't done anything outlandishly bad but he's just not himself and I don't buy into this world cup hangover nonsense.
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Post by tazi on Dec 2, 2014 21:53:15 GMT
I think Begovic is the least of our problems at the moment. I think Begos loss of form is a real concern.
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Post by northantsash on Dec 2, 2014 21:54:16 GMT
I would question Wilson, Cameron, Ireland, bardsley etc today alongside begovic. a lot of players tonight going through the motions and being carried by others in the team.
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Post by stokemanusa on Dec 2, 2014 21:55:37 GMT
He appears uneasy to come out and win balls for sure. Especially with a back line who won't defend their man farside, he has to impose himself more. He did second half but hardly our biggest problem.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 2, 2014 21:56:32 GMT
I think Begovic is the least of our problems at the moment. I think Begos loss of form is a real concern. I agree he has been a bit iffy this season, Tazi.
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Post by tazi on Dec 2, 2014 21:56:38 GMT
At least it's one position we can replace. It's one position that you wouldn't want to replace because he's a top top keeper but it needs to be fathomed out just why he's lost his form and fcuking pray that it's not beyond him getting it back.
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Post by malteser68 on Dec 2, 2014 22:01:43 GMT
whats that supposed to mean. ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 22:04:03 GMT
He needs a spell on the sidelines. That second goal was just ridiculous
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Post by sutekh on Dec 2, 2014 22:11:42 GMT
When bego got back to the dressing room tonight,he sat down,went to put his head in his hands and fucking missed
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Post by ayem on Dec 2, 2014 22:13:36 GMT
Would Sorensen do better? Day in day out? I think not.
Butland is still growing and throwing him in to a squad that is in bad form defensively would do nothing for him.
I'd still take begovic in a slump to most keepers out there. He'll come good for the club and himself.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 2, 2014 22:13:57 GMT
I'm clearly alone in thinking he had a decent game tonight. Your defenders should be attacking those sorts of crosses into the box for the second goal, and Pieters was horribly at fault for the first goal. To be fair it wasn't one of Pieter's better nights as he made a ridiculous challenge that resulted in the free kick for the second goal.
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Post by tazi on Dec 2, 2014 22:21:37 GMT
Would Sorensen do better? Day in day out? I think not. Butland is still growing and throwing him in to a squad that is in bad form defensively would do nothing for him. I'd still take begovic in a slump to most keepers out there. He'll come good for the club and himself. Sorensen would be well happy to play whereas Begos performances suggest he's not happy playing with this disorganised fcuking shite.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Dec 2, 2014 22:22:26 GMT
The defence in front of him is the problem
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 2, 2014 22:23:28 GMT
Can't fault him today.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 2, 2014 22:24:44 GMT
You see that type of second goal reasonably often for what it is. It's harsh to single out Bego, the entire defence are at fault. No communication between any of them.
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Post by redwhite on Dec 2, 2014 22:25:50 GMT
Impressed the OP can read Begovic's mind.
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Post by ayem on Dec 2, 2014 22:28:12 GMT
Would Sorensen do better? Day in day out? I think not. Butland is still growing and throwing him in to a squad that is in bad form defensively would do nothing for him. I'd still take begovic in a slump to most keepers out there. He'll come good for the club and himself. Sorensen would be well happy to play whereas Begos performances suggest he's not happy playing with this disorganised fcuking shite. Of course Sorensen would be happy, the rest of us would be crying. And I must have missed the time when begovic put in his papers. No doubt he's not where he was last year, but to think he's not the best option or that he doesn't want to be here is just ignorant.
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Post by tazi on Dec 2, 2014 22:32:45 GMT
Sorensen would be well happy to play whereas Begos performances suggest he's not happy playing with this disorganised fcuking shite. Of course Sorensen would be happy, the rest of us would be crying. And I must have missed the time when begovic put in his papers. No doubt he's not where he was last year, but to think he's not the best option or that he doesn't want to be here is just ignorant. He's fcuking quality, needs examining as to why he's looking shot to fucking bits.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Dec 2, 2014 22:39:36 GMT
Are you for real? For a kick off, his ridiculous pass across the box early on was bloody suicidal. I really rate Beggo but believe he needs a break, as he hasn't been the Beggo we all know and love this season at all. I'd give Butland the gloves for Saturday. As for the rest of the defence, I have little confidence in either of our full backs and, if we had a centre half available, I'd be happier with Cameron and Wilson at full backs. Thank goodness we have Ryan, although he is only one booking away from a ban and then we really are in trouble defensively.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 2, 2014 22:44:45 GMT
Are you for real? For a kick off, his ridiculous pass across the box early on was bloody suicidal. I really rate Beggo but believe he needs a break, as he hasn't been the Beggo we all know and love this season at all. I'd give Butland the gloves for Saturday. As for the rest of the defence, I have little confidence in either of our full backs and, if we had a centre half available, I'd be happier with Cameron and Wilson at full backs. Thank goodness we have Ryan, although he is only one booking away from a ban and then we really are in trouble defensively. Yeh sorry forgot about that for a second , other than that I thought he was fine.
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