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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 24, 2014 6:23:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 7:56:42 GMT
Great read. Thanks for posting.
"Stoke showed their notable discomfort when teams press them and don’t allow them any space"
This in particular concerns me.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 24, 2014 8:10:17 GMT
Love the Diouf description.
Well written article as always.
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Post by mcf on Nov 24, 2014 8:12:48 GMT
The most shocking part of this was that Rob has 4 ex girlfriends!? I'm stunned  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 8:16:39 GMT
The most shocking part of this was that Rob has 4 ex girlfriends!? I'm stunned If a woman makes small talk with him in the queue at Tesco, he counts them as a girlfriend....  |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Nov 24, 2014 8:18:59 GMT
Good read - the bottom line is these players think they are better than they really are
To only really raise their game where we looked like a team against the two big boys tells its own story
Hull away and Sunderland away we were just as bad as those home displays. Although we played well in bits at QPR as soon as we scored half of them looked like 'that's job done' and switched off.
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Post by 2004 on Nov 24, 2014 8:23:15 GMT
Good read that
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Nov 24, 2014 12:20:58 GMT
The most shocking part of this was that Rob has 4 ex girlfriends!? I'm stunned If a woman makes small talk with him in the queue at Tesco, he counts them as a girlfriend.... Every little helps.....  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 12:22:08 GMT
Wilson and Pieters came out of it with credit.
Don't be surprised to see both restored at the weekend (if fit).
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Post by kidcrewbob on Nov 24, 2014 12:22:34 GMT
Great write-up - hit all nails right on the head.....
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 24, 2014 12:54:25 GMT
It was Dioufs poor control that got him booked and when he did get the opportunity to sprint away his touch forced him wide.
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Post by huddy on Nov 24, 2014 13:14:13 GMT
Excellent on Diouf. His first touch is shocking .He simply can't hold the ball up and it keeps coming back.Don't care how quick he is.Better out wide.
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Post by onionman on Nov 24, 2014 14:56:19 GMT
The most shocking part of this was that Rob has 4 ex girlfriends!? I'm stunned When he kicks them to the curb, he gives them a handy list of conclusions explaining where they went wrong. |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 24, 2014 15:00:33 GMT
Great read. Thanks for posting. "Stoke showed their notable discomfort when teams press them and don’t allow them any space" This in particular concerns me.
Real ground breaking stuff that. Doesn't this apply to 95% of teams in world football.
I really would love to know the true expectations of Stoke supporters. It appears we expect Real Madrid footballers and performances, despite shopping in Lidl.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 24, 2014 15:11:31 GMT
Great read. Thanks for posting. "Stoke showed their notable discomfort when teams press them and don’t allow them any space" This in particular concerns me.
Real ground breaking stuff that. Doesn't this apply to 95% of teams in world football.
I really would love to know the true expectations of Stoke supporters. It appears we expect Real Madrid footballers and performances, despite shopping in Lidl.
We're pretty fucked if that's all it takes to beat us then, aren't we? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 15:37:54 GMT
There was a fair bit of hindsight in that article,regarding team selection
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 24, 2014 15:43:32 GMT
There was a fair bit of hindsight in that article,regarding team selection I said before the game I wanted to see Muniesa at CB and I said at the time I thought Assaidi was the better sub for Moses. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 15:51:44 GMT
There was a fair bit of hindsight in that article,regarding team selection I said before the game I wanted to see Muniesa at CB and I said at the time I thought Assaidi was the better sub for Moses. Bardsley at left back ? Don't recall anyone suggesting that before hand. So you were advocating playing 3 defenders out of position prior to the match were you ? Are you Tony Pulis in disguise ? The fact is no one can pre determine how a match is going to pan out.On another day that same starting 11 could beat Burnley by a hatful.They still should have as it happens. Crouch for Diouf was a given seeing how poor the latter was. As for bringing Assaidi on,I too would have preferred that option but I'm sure your conclusions would have completely opposite had Assaidi performed like Arnie did. Like I say, hindsight is a wonderful thing when it comes to football. I predicted 4-0 by the way  |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 24, 2014 16:06:37 GMT
I said before the game I wanted to see Muniesa at CB and I said at the time I thought Assaidi was the better sub for Moses. Bardsley at left back ? Don't recall anyone suggesting that before hand. So you were advocating playing 3 defenders out of position prior to the match were you ? Are you Tony Pulis in disguise ? The fact is no one can pre determine how a match is going to pan out.On another day that same starting 11 could beat Burnley by a hatful.They still should have as it happens. Crouch for Diouf was a given seeing how poor the latter was. As for bringing Assaidi on,I too would have preferred that option but I'm sure your conclusions would have completely opposite had Assaidi performed like Arnie did. Like I say, hindsight is a wonderful thing when it comes to football. I predicted 4-0 by the way They wouldn't have said the opposite at all. You mustn't read them. Which three defenders would've been out of position? The only contentious one is Bardsley and he's got considerable experience at left back. Muniesa considers himself a centre back. Geoff does too. But he's always looked a better right back than centre back and again has a couple of seasons' experience in the role - he's played there in English football far more than he has CB. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 17:08:58 GMT
Great read. Thanks for posting. "Stoke showed their notable discomfort when teams press them and don’t allow them any space" This in particular concerns me.
Real ground breaking stuff that. Doesn't this apply to 95% of teams in world football.
I really would love to know the true expectations of Stoke supporters. It appears we expect Real Madrid footballers and performances, despite shopping in Lidl.
So we shouldn't be concerned then? |
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Post by metalhead on Nov 24, 2014 17:17:34 GMT
Spot on really.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 24, 2014 17:53:13 GMT
Real ground breaking stuff that. Doesn't this apply to 95% of teams in world football.
I really would love to know the true expectations of Stoke supporters. It appears we expect Real Madrid footballers and performances, despite shopping in Lidl.
So we shouldn't be concerned then? No doubt, but so should the vast majority of the league. We're no different, bit like most teams who find it difficult to break down a 10 man defence. It's up to the manager to work it out. |
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Post by luke45 on Nov 24, 2014 17:53:37 GMT
A very good assessment of the game, can't argue with any of that really. We were saying on the drive down prior to the game that Diouf isn't the greatest at holding the ball up and laying it off and it proved to be the case again, I counted five times he failed to control the ball in the first half alone. His pass success rate of just over 68% also highlights that he is guilty of giving the ball away more often than he should be. As you say in your article though, his pace, work rate and ability to score goals on a fairly regular basis makes him a very valuable player for us when he's performing well.
I thought Arnie started the game brightly when he came on, the turning point for me was when he cut into the area and screwed the ball wide when he should have squared it. There was a few groans from the crowd and that seemed to be enough to knock his confidence and everything he did after that was largely poor. At the end of the day he's got to be mentality stronger than that, he's long over-due a good performance and I don't think he did enough to warrant a start at Liverpool on Saturday.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 24, 2014 18:04:02 GMT
A very good assessment of the game, can't argue with any of that really. We were saying on the drive down prior to the game that Diouf isn't the greatest at holding the ball up and laying it off and it proved to be the case again, I counted five times he failed to control the ball in the first half alone. His pass success rate of just over 68% also highlights that he is guilty of giving the ball away more often than he should be. As you say in your article though, his pace, work rate and ability to score goals on a fairly regular basis makes him a very valuable player for us when he's performing well. I thought Arnie started the game brightly when he came on, the turning point for me was when he cut into the area and screwed the ball wide when he should have squared it. There was a few groans from the crowd and that seemed to be enough to knock his confidence and everything he did after that was largely poor. At the end of the day he's got to be mentality stronger than that, he's long over-due a good performance and I don't think he did enough to warrant a start at Liverpool on Saturday. And there it is. Our magnificent support 'getting behind the lads'. Perhaps a chorus of Arnie Arnie after he did this then maybe it would have spurred him on to better things. No, our supporters prefer to moan. |
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Post by mcf on Nov 24, 2014 18:08:24 GMT
A very good assessment of the game, can't argue with any of that really. We were saying on the drive down prior to the game that Diouf isn't the greatest at holding the ball up and laying it off and it proved to be the case again, I counted five times he failed to control the ball in the first half alone. His pass success rate of just over 68% also highlights that he is guilty of giving the ball away more often than he should be. As you say in your article though, his pace, work rate and ability to score goals on a fairly regular basis makes him a very valuable player for us when he's performing well. I thought Arnie started the game brightly when he came on, the turning point for me was when he cut into the area and screwed the ball wide when he should have squared it. There was a few groans from the crowd and that seemed to be enough to knock his confidence and everything he did after that was largely poor. At the end of the day he's got to be mentality stronger than that, he's long over-due a good performance and I don't think he did enough to warrant a start at Liverpool on Saturday. And there it is. Our magnificent support 'getting behind the lads'. Perhaps a chorus of Arnie Arnie after he did this then maybe it would have spurred him on to better things. No, our supporters prefer to moan. Stop it Pugs...you are killing me  |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 24, 2014 18:09:29 GMT
A very good assessment of the game, can't argue with any of that really. We were saying on the drive down prior to the game that Diouf isn't the greatest at holding the ball up and laying it off and it proved to be the case again, I counted five times he failed to control the ball in the first half alone. His pass success rate of just over 68% also highlights that he is guilty of giving the ball away more often than he should be. As you say in your article though, his pace, work rate and ability to score goals on a fairly regular basis makes him a very valuable player for us when he's performing well. I thought Arnie started the game brightly when he came on, the turning point for me was when he cut into the area and screwed the ball wide when he should have squared it. There was a few groans from the crowd and that seemed to be enough to knock his confidence and everything he did after that was largely poor. At the end of the day he's got to be mentality stronger than that, he's long over-due a good performance and I don't think he did enough to warrant a start at Liverpool on Saturday. And there it is. Our magnificent support 'getting behind the lads'. Perhaps a chorus of Arnie Arnie after he did this then maybe it would have spurred him on to better things. No, our supporters prefer to moan. We can count you in for a chorus of Super Johnny Walters the next time he spanners one into the crowd then Pugs? Maybe a couple of "Whelan! Whelan!" the next time he hits row z or passes it into touch? |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 24, 2014 18:09:48 GMT
And there it is. Our magnificent support 'getting behind the lads'. Perhaps a chorus of Arnie Arnie after he did this then maybe it would have spurred him on to better things. No, our supporters prefer to moan. Stop it Pugs...you are killing me I'm talking at the game numb nuts, not on here. |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 24, 2014 18:10:37 GMT
And there it is. Our magnificent support 'getting behind the lads'. Perhaps a chorus of Arnie Arnie after he did this then maybe it would have spurred him on to better things. No, our supporters prefer to moan. We can count you in for a chorus of Super Johnny Walters the next time he spanners one into the crowd then Pugs? Maybe a couple of "Whelan! Whelan!" the next time he hits row z or passes it into touch? No one can chant for 90 minutes solid... |
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Post by mcf on Nov 24, 2014 18:11:24 GMT
Stop it Pugs...you are killing me I'm talking at the game numb nuts, not on here. fucking brilliant Pugs |
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Post by mcf on Nov 24, 2014 18:12:00 GMT
We can count you in for a chorus of Super Johnny Walters the next time he spanners one into the crowd then Pugs? Maybe a couple of "Whelan! Whelan!" the next time he hits row z or passes it into touch? No one can chant for 90 minutes solid... you are on form today |
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