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Post by mrpickles on Nov 24, 2014 23:09:55 GMT
But you are coming across as a 'bell' Nick, as I'm sure I would do if I went onto an Aston Villa forum and started dismissing the ability of some of your players. The reason for that would be that I'm not armed with anywhere near enough knowledge of your squad to think my opinion is superior to those fans who have watched Villa week in week out. Its the same with you here. An opinion is all well and good, but I think you go beyond just having one. You let trying to prove that you're right get in the way. For some reason you're always on an England or Arsenal match thread and generally pick out the negative comments to reply to. Why? Anyway, the bottom line is nick, we Stoke fans have seen Ryan Shawcross play nearly 300 competitive football matches. He's a fucking legend at this football club, so I'm sure you can understand why we think your opinion means absolutely fuck all given your complete lack of knowledge on the subject? Now, if we're talking Fabian Delph or Ron Vlaar then I'm all ears mate I see quite a lot of stokes football, thats what my opinion is based on If you don't mind me asking, how do manage to see a lot of us Nick? We're hardly Sky or BT's favorite team so watching our full matches live on the box can't count for a lot, unless you're seeking out live streams of our games? In which case, why? I can't imagine ever taking enough interest in Villa to watch them on a dodgy internet stream (no disrespect).
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Post by britsabroad on Nov 25, 2014 2:55:40 GMT
As I've said for a while then... Hes equally good as a defender as the others (taking into account the opposition faced in those statistics) but he makes a higher number of risky passes and therefore gives the ball away more. I think he should be given another chance, but as giving the ball away cheaply is the cardinal sin in top level football, and he made such a mess of his first chance, he is not the shoe in most fans think he is.
Id like to see him given a few games, but he should not be first choice in anything just yet.
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