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Post by agingerstokie on Nov 3, 2014 11:20:19 GMT
On Goals on Sunday yesterday, Strachan said that they must find a way to promote Hearts, Hibs and Rangers back to the SPL, surely if this actually happened it would make a mockery of the league system? When I first heard it, it surprised me and just seeing it in the gossip column on Sky today reminded me.
What are your thoughts? Personally I don't believe any club has a right to be in the top league, of any pyramid, whatever the country whether it benefits it or not.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Nov 3, 2014 11:22:00 GMT
Can't they just relax the rules on how much they spend?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 3, 2014 11:23:44 GMT
The SPL has been a joke of a league. Ever since they went to 4 division of 10 teams and playing each team 4 times.
When Celtic & Rangers were playing each other 6 times a season on average even the Old Firm games became tedious.
They screwed it up years ago. They should go back to 2 divisions of 18 teams
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Post by jarhead on Nov 3, 2014 11:46:50 GMT
The SPL has been a joke of a league. Ever since they went to 4 division of 10 teams and playing each team 4 times. When Celtic & Rangers were playing each other 6 times a season on average even the Old Firm games became tedious. They screwed it up years ago. They should go back to 2 divisions of 18 teams Not that I give a flying fuck but I agree with ya.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 3, 2014 11:49:05 GMT
I'm sure I heard him say yesterday, that the tackle on Diouf was more comical than dangerous.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 3, 2014 15:12:27 GMT
i always thought the demotion to the bottom tier was done out of spite not a proper retribution.
Scottish football is all the worse for it
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Post by block27row27 on Nov 3, 2014 15:17:20 GMT
Still think Celtic and Rangers should be let into the English league system.
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Post by rawli on Nov 3, 2014 15:25:16 GMT
Still think Celtic and Rangers should be let into the English league system. While we're at it lets get Real Madrid and Barcelona in and PSG and Juve and Inter. Then get rid of all the shit clubs from the English league. It would be ace. Big games every week for the entertainment of the world.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 15:33:46 GMT
Still think Celtic and Rangers should be let into the English league system. and completely destroy the Scottish leagues for good you mean???? if people think it's been devalued already by Rangers being relegated then how could be of ANY benefit to every other club in Scotland if the "Big" (ahem) clubs left completely? or do we just completely forget that Scotland DOES actually have other teams apart from those 2 now? fuck 'em..they're not likely to win with Celtic and Rangers around so let's just let them all disappear completely! that's what would happen, with those 2 gone then TV rights and outside funding would just disappear, closely followed by the existence of all the other clubs. absolutely bizarre that people on here can talk about how the Prem has ruined football and how much it detrimentally effects the sides in the lower leagues then come out with this idea
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 15:36:12 GMT
Still think Celtic and Rangers should be let into the English league system. While we're at it lets get Real Madrid and Barcelona in and PSG and Juve and Inter. Then get rid of all the shit clubs from the English league. It would be ace. Big games every week for the entertainment of the world. the sooner the european league kicks in the better, then the rest of us can get back to enjoying our football on a level playing field. And when it does happen it had better be on a subscription only channel so I dont have to subsidise them. then watch it all go pear shaped when the top teams start to play in half empty stadiums and dwindling tv audience, they will then be begging to come back into the prem.
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Post by block27row27 on Nov 3, 2014 15:45:12 GMT
Still think Celtic and Rangers should be let into the English league system. and completely destroy the Scottish leagues for good you mean???? if people think it's been devalued already by Rangers being relegated then how could be of ANY benefit to every other club in Scotland if the "Big" (ahem) clubs left completely? or do we just completely forget that Scotland DOES actually have other teams apart from those 2 now? fuck 'em..they're not likely to win with Celtic and Rangers around so let's just let them all disappear completely! that's what would happen, with those 2 gone then TV rights and outside funding would just disappear, closely followed by the existence of all the other clubs. absolutely bizarre that people on here can talk about how the Prem has ruined football and how much it detrimentally effects the sides in the lower leagues then come out with this idea I only think that it would actually benefit the remaining teams, giving an equal chance for other clubs to compete in europe etc. The remaining clubs still have a large fan base, therefore the leagues would only benefit due to all clubs being on a more level playing field. Also, for the record, I have never said the Prem has ruined football, it's made it so much better.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 3, 2014 15:47:37 GMT
Still think Celtic and Rangers should be let into the English league system. They can start in the Evo-Stik or stop where they are.
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Post by rawli on Nov 3, 2014 15:52:17 GMT
and completely destroy the Scottish leagues for good you mean???? if people think it's been devalued already by Rangers being relegated then how could be of ANY benefit to every other club in Scotland if the "Big" (ahem) clubs left completely? or do we just completely forget that Scotland DOES actually have other teams apart from those 2 now? fuck 'em..they're not likely to win with Celtic and Rangers around so let's just let them all disappear completely! that's what would happen, with those 2 gone then TV rights and outside funding would just disappear, closely followed by the existence of all the other clubs. absolutely bizarre that people on here can talk about how the Prem has ruined football and how much it detrimentally effects the sides in the lower leagues then come out with this idea I only think that it would actually benefit the remaining teams, giving an equal chance for other clubs to compete in europe etc. The remaining clubs still have a large fan base, therefore the leagues would only benefit due to all clubs being on a more level playing field. Also, for the record, I have never said the Prem has ruined football, it's made it so much better. I don't think that richer means better. Football's fucked and the Premier League has contributed to that.
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Post by rawli on Nov 3, 2014 15:53:11 GMT
Still think Celtic and Rangers should be let into the English league system. They can start in the Evo-Stik or stop where they are. No. They can stay in their own fucking league in their own fucking country.
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Post by block27row27 on Nov 3, 2014 15:58:56 GMT
They can start in the Evo-Stik or stop where they are. No. They can stay in their own fucking league in their own fucking country. That's fair enough taking that stance, but if that's the case, I'd want Swansea, Cardiff, Wrexham and Newport County all in the Welsh Premier.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 3, 2014 16:02:03 GMT
If they are going to bend the rules to "promote" Hibs Hearts and Rangers then they would be better to go the whole hog and adopt the American Franchise system and have no promotion or relegation from the SPL. Reorganise it totally and allocate franchises to the large population centres where decent crowds could be guaranteed. They could even invite Belfast and Dublin into the "Celtic Super League" - and I'm sure Mr Tan would love to bring his Cardiff Red Dragons along for the ride. Sorted!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 16:03:46 GMT
and completely destroy the Scottish leagues for good you mean???? if people think it's been devalued already by Rangers being relegated then how could be of ANY benefit to every other club in Scotland if the "Big" (ahem) clubs left completely? or do we just completely forget that Scotland DOES actually have other teams apart from those 2 now? fuck 'em..they're not likely to win with Celtic and Rangers around so let's just let them all disappear completely! that's what would happen, with those 2 gone then TV rights and outside funding would just disappear, closely followed by the existence of all the other clubs. absolutely bizarre that people on here can talk about how the Prem has ruined football and how much it detrimentally effects the sides in the lower leagues then come out with this idea I only think that it would actually benefit the remaining teams, giving an equal chance for other clubs to compete in europe etc. The remaining clubs still have a large fan base, therefore the leagues would only benefit due to all clubs being on a more level playing field. Also, for the record, I have never said the Prem has ruined football, it's made it so much better. the other teams wouldn't carry on much longer without them. they'd get sod all TV money and have no other teams of any quality to compete against. no decent players would go there to play against such poor quality so eventually all the remaining quality that is still there would move on as well Rangers and Celtic coming over here (and i still think they would HAVE to start from the bottom up otherwise it's hugely unfair to English teams who have been battling for promotion for decades) would signal the death knell for Professional Scottish football
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Post by onionman on Nov 3, 2014 16:16:48 GMT
Still think Celtic and Rangers should be let into the English league system. They can start in the Evo-Stik or stop where they are. I think the most appropriate point of entry would be the York League Division Four, which is technically the lowest section of the pyramid in the north of England. However I would be annoyed if I supported one of the teams already in that division, such as Huntington Working Mens Club or Wetherby Athletic 'A', and these tossers from Glasgow suddenly turned up acting like big-time Charlies.
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Post by rawli on Nov 3, 2014 16:27:03 GMT
No. They can stay in their own fucking league in their own fucking country. That's fair enough taking that stance, but if that's the case, I'd want Swansea, Cardiff, Wrexham and Newport County all in the Welsh Premier. Yup.
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Post by block27row27 on Nov 3, 2014 16:32:50 GMT
That's fair enough taking that stance, but if that's the case, I'd want Swansea, Cardiff, Wrexham and Newport County all in the Welsh Premier. Yup. I'll start the petition
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 3, 2014 18:57:44 GMT
I'm sure I heard him say yesterday, that the tackle on Diouf was more comical than dangerous. Yes the stupid prick did i wonder if that was Scotland and they drew 2-2 and missed out on qualification by a point, i wonder if he would find it as funny eh?
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Post by no1972 on Nov 3, 2014 19:45:18 GMT
Still think Celtic and Rangers should be let into the English league system. While we're at it lets get Real Madrid and Barcelona in and PSG and Juve and Inter. Then get rid of all the shit clubs from the English league. It would be ace. Big games every week for the entertainment of the world. That would be just what the big sponsors and TV companies dream of and if they got there way that would happen. Money his made by the premiership with there world wide rights.If this did happen teams like us would not be invited as we do not pull in big TV figures that is why we are only on TV against the big teams and the contracted number sky have to show. So inviting Celtic and Rangers into the prem could mean no place for teams like us as they would make it a closed shop.
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