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Post by lastoftheldk on Oct 26, 2014 0:31:55 GMT
Wilson is our best defender this season Why did no one else react after the header and allow them two free shots on goal Because the scorer was unmarked. However if our "best defender this season" hadn't made a complete arse up of his header the ball wouldn't have ended up in the back of the net. So the one man who done something gets the full blame while all the ball watchers are blameless
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 26, 2014 0:32:43 GMT
Actually, at home he's been much better but Shawcross beats him. Away he's been our worst so far this season. Have you ever been to a Stoke game Resorted to being a tit already as you have nothing but your' opinion on wilson. Cute. I've probably been to more than you've ever dreamt but it's besides the point. Wilson as our best defender so far this season with 5 goals of 9 being directly from his man...
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Post by lastoftheldk on Oct 26, 2014 0:40:00 GMT
Have you ever been to a Stoke game Resorted to being a tit already as you have nothing but your' opinion on wilson. Cute. I've probably been to more than you've ever dreamt but it's besides the point. Wilson as our best defender so far this season with 5 goals of 9 being directly from his man... And your opinion is based on watching a Internet stream So when were you last at Stoke ?
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Post by Davef on Oct 26, 2014 0:43:59 GMT
Because the scorer was unmarked. However if our "best defender this season" hadn't made a complete arse up of his header the ball wouldn't have ended up in the back of the net. So the one man who done something gets the full blame while all the ball watchers are blameless Why do you defend Marc Wilson so much, yet are constantly critical of our other defenders? It's very strange.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 26, 2014 0:44:25 GMT
Resorted to being a tit already as you have nothing but your' opinion on wilson. Cute. I've probably been to more than you've ever dreamt but it's besides the point. Wilson as our best defender so far this season with 5 goals of 9 being directly from his man... And your opinion is based on watching a Internet stream So when were you last at Stoke ? No, I got to at least 3-4 games a season regularly. What does that matter? I know a shite CB when I see one and Wilson on a stream or live still lets goals in... 5 of 9 to be exact "this season" did you miss those live? Trivial is your point and is your argument. You've got nothing.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Oct 26, 2014 1:11:02 GMT
So the one man who done something gets the full blame while all the ball watchers are blameless Why do you defend Marc Wilson so much, yet are constantly critical of our other defenders? It's very strange. You could change the name and ask yourself the same question Not defending him just pointing out some truths
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Post by lastoftheldk on Oct 26, 2014 1:17:08 GMT
And your opinion is based on watching a Internet stream So when were you last at Stoke ? No, I got to at least 3-4 games a season regularly. What does that matter? I know a shite CB when I see one and Wilson on a stream or live still lets goals in... 5 of 9 to be exact "this season" did you miss those live? Trivial is your point and is your argument. You've got nothing. Yes I got something Your opinion is based on Internet streams Which are these five goals ? You missed them live thats obvious
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 26, 2014 1:18:17 GMT
No, I got to at least 3-4 games a season regularly. What does that matter? I know a shite CB when I see one and Wilson on a stream or live still lets goals in... 5 of 9 to be exact "this season" did you miss those live? Trivial is your point and is your argument. You've got nothing. Yes I got something Your opinion is based on Internet streams Which are these five goals ? You missed them live thats obvious I think everyone's missed the game you watched mate.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 26, 2014 1:22:39 GMT
No, I got to at least 3-4 games a season regularly. What does that matter? I know a shite CB when I see one and Wilson on a stream or live still lets goals in... 5 of 9 to be exact "this season" did you miss those live? Trivial is your point and is your argument. You've got nothing. Yes I got something Your opinion is based on Internet streams Which are these five goals ? You missed them live thats obvious I just hope when I get to Stoke in November that crap CB is on the bench live. So when I go home and watch the replay it'll be confirmed. I'll be happy then, we might get a draw at the least. I don't know what matches you've been watching.
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Post by timbo1988 on Oct 26, 2014 7:47:43 GMT
Huths finished under this manager,he wants defenders who can pass not defenders who can defened 100% incorrect My guess it's Huth and Ryan on Wednesday a good performance and they will stay in the team! Huth doesn't do so well then Wilson plays against west ham!
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Post by ohhgeorgieberry on Oct 26, 2014 8:16:00 GMT
Mom today for me was Wilson
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Post by timbo1988 on Oct 26, 2014 8:18:14 GMT
Mom today for me was Wilson He played well but his poor header contributed to the goal! Plus Huth has played both capital one cup games so far!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 8:22:21 GMT
Wilson headed it straight to the bloke who hit the post Gods. The consensus from the commentators was that it was a poor defensive header. Fair enough. But in the round, we have been excellent defensively so far this season. The bald fact is only the Top 2 have conceded fewer goals than us. Wilson is a big part of that IMHO. Our main problem (yes I know we can also discuss the smaller problems too) is that only 4 teams have scored fewer goals than us. So we are Top 3 defensively and Bottom 4 offensively. That is the challenge for Mr. Hughes. Score some goals but don't screw up the defence. It seems to be a circle we can't square. Bump.
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Post by ohhgeorgieberry on Oct 26, 2014 8:24:22 GMT
Mom today for me was Wilson He played well but his poor header contributed to the goal! Plus Huth has played both capital one cup games so far! I agree mate get Hugh in on Wednesday
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 26, 2014 8:26:23 GMT
And your opinion is based on watching a Internet stream So when were you last at Stoke ? No, I got to at least 3-4 games a season regularly. What does that matter? I know a shite CB when I see one and Wilson on a stream or live still lets goals in... 5 of 9 to be exact "this season" did you miss those live? Trivial is your point and is your argument. You've got nothing. Certainly stops you knowing a Shit Right Back when you see one Its so funny how you call everyone by their surname except Geoff are you a relative
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Post by Davef on Oct 26, 2014 9:17:08 GMT
Why do you defend Marc Wilson so much, yet are constantly critical of our other defenders? It's very strange. You could change the name and ask yourself the same question Not defending him just pointing out some truths You couldn't actually.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 26, 2014 9:19:17 GMT
We have one of the best defensive units in one of the top leagues in the world yet we have so-called supporters labelling one of our players hapless and a liability.
Proud to be a Potter.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 26, 2014 10:59:38 GMT
He undermines everything they do as a unit though doesn't he? He can look fine for 89 minutes and then his lapse kills us. It's been a problem for 12 months and if he remains in the team I think we'll struggle badly.
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Post by Northy on Oct 27, 2014 7:17:52 GMT
It was a crap header for a centre half, he should have sent it 20 yards away not 5
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Post by jackcity on Oct 27, 2014 10:43:19 GMT
Why don you look Back before Wilson came into defence how many defensive errors were made by huth never mind the ones that Ryan makes because they are never highlighted Teams are scoring goals every week against world class defenders difference here is Wilson is being slated every game by his own supporters. I am more concerned with how many errors at the other end. Any defender that can play well for 89 min has no errors and isn't Marc Wilson must be god
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Post by metalhead on Oct 27, 2014 11:14:09 GMT
We have one of the best defensive units in one of the top leagues in the world yet we have so-called supporters labelling one of our players hapless and a liability. Proud to be a Potter. Yes that's all well and good, but it only takes one glaring mistake and it's a goal. He made another on Saturday.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Oct 27, 2014 14:06:47 GMT
So, are we suggesting we should be keeping clean sheets in EVERY game? It may have been a sloppy header (not even seen it to be honest) but it makes things a hell of a lot harder for your defenders if you're nowhere near scoring at the other end! Obviously you could say that we'd have more of a chance if we don't concede the first goal but it's difficult/impossible to stop the other team from having at least one chance in a game, no matter how well you play as a defensive unit.
Maybe Wilson's 'errors' have (unfortunately for us and him) cost us dearly and other players might make mistakes that go unpunished and are then brushed under the carpet.
Conceding one goal away at Southampton doesn't mean anybody needs dropping BUT if Huth is fit and at his best, I'd feel a lot more comfortable with him alongside Shawcross. Wilson doesn't always inspire confidence and he can be a little bit dodgy at times but I think the criticism he's getting is pretty mental. There are so many others who you could point the finger at but a lot of people do seem to choose Wilson over anybody else.
He's part of a decent defensive unit and has played his part when we have done well. Everybody needs to do their jobs well. I wouldn't say the defence did a particularly bad job on Saturday and some form of attacking intent would have helped. At the moment, we seem to either batter teams and end up drawing or losing or just about scraping a win (Newcastle, Swansea) because we haven't been clinical enough.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 27, 2014 16:50:44 GMT
No, I got to at least 3-4 games a season regularly. What does that matter? I know a shite CB when I see one and Wilson on a stream or live still lets goals in... 5 of 9 to be exact "this season" did you miss those live? Trivial is your point and is your argument. You've got nothing. Certainly stops you knowing a Shit Right Back when you see one Its so funny how you call everyone by their surname except Geoff are you a relative Funny coming from the person who said that he'd "never start for stoke." He also was our RB during our highest finishing place in the PL with goals to boot. I call him geoff because its shorter.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 27, 2014 16:53:34 GMT
We have one of the best defensive units in one of the top leagues in the world yet we have so-called supporters labelling one of our players hapless and a liability. Proud to be a Potter. We are good until the clean sheet is thrown into the mix. We could be sixth if wilson could head or clear a ball.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 27, 2014 20:03:25 GMT
Certainly stops you knowing a Shit Right Back when you see one Its so funny how you call everyone by their surname except Geoff are you a relative Funny coming from the person who said that he'd "never start for stoke." He also was our RB during our highest finishing place in the PL with goals to boot. I call him geoff because its shorter. I never said that at all, I said he his not good enough for a regular place, Don't make things up to suit your agenda. So Mark isn't shorter than Wilson?
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