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Post by superstokiejon on Oct 23, 2014 14:10:06 GMT
Whelan out for 4-6 weeks!
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 23, 2014 14:11:24 GMT
Big chance for Geoffrey (if he isn't forced back to RB with Bardsley's absence)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 14:13:27 GMT
If Bardsley is out then its a no brainer. Wilson to right back and either Huth, if fit or Muniesa in at centre half.
Cameron's performance dictates he must be kept there.
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Post by superstokiejon on Oct 23, 2014 14:13:35 GMT
Sparky seemed loathe to put Geoff at right back...I think it might be Muniesa coming in at right back and Geoff in Whelan's place. Hopefully Bardsley isn't injured.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 23, 2014 14:17:43 GMT
If Bardsley is out, I'd go Muniesa at RB and Geoff in the middle. Southampton will have a field day if we go with the same midfield we started the Swansea game with I feel. Muni CB, Wilson RB would seem better to me.
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Post by superstokiejon on Oct 23, 2014 14:23:58 GMT
I'd prefer Muni RB and Wilson kept at CB with Ryan to be honest mate.
With Whelan out, and if Bardsley is also, I'd go:
Bego Muniesa Wilson Shawcross Pieters Cameron Nzonzi Adam Diouf Moses Crouch
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Post by apb1 on Oct 23, 2014 14:25:09 GMT
Defensive shuffling we could do without really, against a rampant strike force. Could it be Cameron RB, and Adam Nzonzi Ireland midfield again? Huth has just been injured himself, and Muni at CB, not sure.
Bardsley looks pretty tough so hopefully he'll get himself sorted.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 23, 2014 14:34:05 GMT
If rather keep Wilson at centre back, we don't want to confuse the lad.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 23, 2014 14:44:05 GMT
Recall Wilko? I'd like to see Cameron in midfield and I don't want there to be any risk of him playing at full back ever, ever again.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Oct 23, 2014 14:59:14 GMT
I hate full backs playing on their wonky side!!!!! Muni could do well at centre back if Wislon goes to right back but how would Huth feel?
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Post by superstokiejon on Oct 23, 2014 15:05:40 GMT
I usually do jimmyg but Muni seems comfortable with both feet - I think he'd be fine at RB.
I think it's important Cameron starts in central midfield on Saturday.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 23, 2014 15:06:35 GMT
I hate full backs playing on their wonky side!!!!! Muni could do well at centre back if Wislon goes to right back but how would Huth feel? Wilson and Griffin seem to be comfortable on either side but, as you say, most full backs aren't. If Bardsley isn't fit I'd move Wilson to right back (in his few appearances there, he has looked as comfortable as he does at left back) and then it will be up to Hughes to decide whether to play Huth or Muniesa at cb alongside Ryan. I'd go with Huth but Hughes is the one who sees them in training. Whatever permutation he uses in the back 4, I would definitely play Cameron in the Whelan role. He's earned the chance after his great cameo on Sunday.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Oct 23, 2014 15:07:55 GMT
I hate full backs playing on their wonky side!!!!! Muni could do well at centre back if Wislon goes to right back but how would Huth feel? Wilson and Griffin seem to be comfortable on either side but, as you say, most full backs aren't. If Bardsley isn't fit I'd move Wilson to right back (in his few appearances there, he has looked as comfortable as he does at left back) and then it will be up to Hughes to decide whether to play Huth or Muniesa at cb alongside Ryan. I'd go with Ryan but Hughes is the one who sees them in training. Whatever permutation he uses in the back 4, I would definitely play Cameron in the Whelan role. He's earned the chance after his great cameo on Sunday. I'm sure you're editing that as I write John Bugger..........
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Post by thestatusquo on Oct 23, 2014 15:08:06 GMT
With Geoff having played at right back regularly I think MH would feel more comfortable with him there. We have other midfielders with experience.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 23, 2014 15:09:25 GMT
Wilson and Griffin seem to be comfortable on either side but, as you say, most full backs aren't. If Bardsley isn't fit I'd move Wilson to right back (in his few appearances there, he has looked as comfortable as he does at left back) and then it will be up to Hughes to decide whether to play Huth or Muniesa at cb alongside Ryan. I'd go with Huth but Hughes is the one who sees them in training. Whatever permutation he uses in the back 4, I would definitely play Cameron in the Whelan role. He's earned the chance after his great cameo on Sunday. I'm sure you're editing that as I write John Bugger..........
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Post by djralphy2k9 on Oct 23, 2014 15:09:59 GMT
Hughes will stick with Ireland in midfield and put Cameron right back, even though he should play alongside Nzonzi and push Adam up
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 23, 2014 15:10:25 GMT
With Geoff having played at right back regularly I think MH would feel more comfortable with him there. We have other midfielders with experience. Judging by Hughes' comments today he'll probably play Geoff in the Whelan role.
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Post by thestatusquo on Oct 23, 2014 15:15:56 GMT
With Geoff having played at right back regularly I think MH would feel more comfortable with him there. We have other midfielders with experience. Judging by Hughes' comments today he'll probably play Geoff in the Whelan role. I think that will depend on Bards fitness though John. If he's out then we don't have much right back cover with Wilko gone. I don't think he'd play Muni there and moving Wilson would mean two positional changes. I'm not sure what he thinks of Sidwell though as he would seem the obvious choice having been a regular in the middle.
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Post by superstokiejon on Oct 23, 2014 15:16:28 GMT
I think that's most likely Lakeland.
I hope so - I don't like the thought of us starting the game with the Nzonzi, Ireland, Adam combo. Nzonzi, Cameron and Adam and I'd be more confident.
Hopefully Bardsley will make it and can get through 90 mins. I'd rest him for the cup game if he only just makes it on Saturday.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 23, 2014 15:44:55 GMT
Judging by Hughes' comments today he'll probably play Geoff in the Whelan role. I think that will depend on Bards fitness though John. If he's out then we don't have much right back cover with Wilko gone. I don't think he'd play Muni there and moving Wilson would mean two positional changes. I'm not sure what he thinks of Sidwell though as he would seem the obvious choice having been a regular in the middle. Yes, but in the comments I saw by Hughes today, he specifically said that if Bardsley was unfit he had other options than Geoff Cameron (or the departed Wilko) he could use at right back. He seems to be as keen to see Geoff in midfield as many of us. I think it is important here to remember that, like Swansea, the midfield is one area where Southampton are very strong. The change when Geoff came on to stiffen our midfield on Sunday was quite dramatic. NZonzi really can't do the Whelan role as well as Whelan can. Cameron has shown that he might be able to do what Whelan does with the added bonus that he is more athletic and can support Adam and NZonzi in pressing forward when he gets the chance. We'd be daft to pass up on the Cameron option in midfield with Wilson at right back, and I think Hughes is thinking down those lines as well.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Oct 23, 2014 15:46:18 GMT
Bad news about Glenn, but Cameron did look great on sunday, so it wouldn't have been such a blow.
It does hinge on Huth and Bardsley's fitness. If they're out then I'd go for Geoff right back and Sidwell in midfield {with N'Zonzi and Adam}. I thought initially Sidwell looked tidy and effective at chasing down when he came on vs QPR. I know about the foul, but it looked to me like he was trying too hard, the kind of abberration which happens when a player hasn't fully eased into a game. I would like to have a proper look at him {for us}. It'd be a less disruptive option for the back 4.
As a curveball.. didn't Pieters play at right back in one of the pre-season friendlies, {with Muniesa on the left}, I'm not necessarily advocating that, but I suppose it's another option.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 23, 2014 15:50:32 GMT
Possibly shot ourselves in the front letting Wilko go, if Bards is actually injured.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 23, 2014 16:17:30 GMT
With Glen out for weeks and Cameron's last game on my mind I really can't see anything else being the outcome.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 23, 2014 16:20:22 GMT
Bardsley out then Cameron at Right back is a no brainer. Sidwell should then come into midfield, maybe Muniesa.
Sidwell must be wondering why he signed.
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Post by tarheel on Oct 23, 2014 16:40:55 GMT
Poor Cameron, says he wants to play holding mid, does well at holding mid in all the games he's played it as a Potter.... but still has to play RB.
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Post by lancer on Oct 23, 2014 19:12:43 GMT
If Glenn is out then i would play him in the same position as against Swansea leaving Ireland out . Charlies display keeps him in. This!
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 23, 2014 21:41:58 GMT
Poor Cameron, says he wants to play holding mid, does well at holding mid in all the games he's played it as a Potter.... but still has to play RB. It's called a team player, he's this season's whitehead but for Hughes instead of TP. He'll be all over for us probably at RB, CB, CDM, Winger who knows??? Funny how this board has changed from people never wanting Geoff to start for us again and a few the last window calling for him to be transferred as surplus to requirements and questioned what he really brings to our side a few times over his stint here, especially after a few harrowing defeats, now the same people are saying he's a MUST in CM and act as if they always wanted him in the starting 11. Ohh the irony, you can't make it up. If anything he deserves a mention for "most versatile" Stoke player. Been chiming his Athleticism is enough to keep him signed ever since he came over from Houston, nice to see the Geoff Cameron fan club growing as being club President and all for the first few years here the lad was lampooned. You have to admit it's a complete 180* on here for some folks, it's weird.
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Post by stokefaninde on Oct 24, 2014 3:34:21 GMT
Poor Cameron, says he wants to play holding mid, does well at holding mid in all the games he's played it as a Potter.... but still has to play RB. It's called a team player, he's this season's whitehead but for Hughes instead of TP. He'll be all over for us probably at RB, CB, CDM, Winger who knows??? Funny how this board has changed from people never wanting Geoff to start for us again and a few the last window calling for him to be transferred as surplus to requirements and questioned what he really brings to our side a few times over his stint here, especially after a few harrowing defeats, now the same people are saying he's a MUST in CM and act as if they always wanted him in the starting 11. Ohh the irony, you can't make it up. If anything he deserves a mention for "most versatile" Stoke player. Been chiming his Athleticism is enough to keep him signed ever since he came over from Houston, nice to see the Geoff Cameron fan club growing as being club President and all for the first few years here the lad was lampooned. You have to admit it's a complete 180* on here for some folks, it's weird. If your President, I'm VP:). I think most people on here are pretty fair to be honest. Some just really don't like him at RB and didn't like the idea of trying him in the Whelan role not having been tested there. The difference he made the moment he came on vs Swansea was undeniable, and though some on here can be tough to take I'm confident we all want the same thing at the end of the day.
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Post by wembley4372 on Oct 24, 2014 4:00:36 GMT
He did well for ten minutes. Whether he can keep focused for longer in the middle I have yet to see, but he did enough for another try. Unless we have another couple of injuries I wouldn't want him any where near CB.
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Post by potterpaul on Oct 24, 2014 5:35:53 GMT
He did well for ten minutes. Whether he can keep focused for longer in the middle I have yet to see, but he did enough for another try. Unless we have another couple of injuries I wouldn't want him any where near CB. To be fair it took Whelan 4 and half seasons before becoming the player we see now. He was ultra inconsistent before. And before Wezzer comes on and takes that the wrong way........I don't blame Glen for that, the previous manager never used his midfield to help their cause.
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