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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 15:57:13 GMT
Yes the Shawcross one is a penalty but you it sets a precedent. Now every corner MUST result in a penalty The ref told him about it before the corner was taken, even if he has been singled out it was stupid from Ryan and it's cost us a goal and a booking which puts him on the edge for the rest of the game. Glad he evened it up but we have been very lucky to go in 1-1 at half time.
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Post by irishpotter2010 on Oct 19, 2014 15:57:15 GMT
Ryan does it all the time, time to cut it out, refs watching for it now. Our pen, not for me, we are lucky to be in this game. But we are.... So let's get at them
What would a three of Ki, Siggurdson and Bony cost? They look good don't they.... Love to see them in red and white stripes
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 19, 2014 15:58:54 GMT
Trevor Francis and Souness SLAGGING Stoke at half time.
Sent from my GT-I9192 using proboards
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 19, 2014 15:58:57 GMT
It's very evident we lack a real attacking presence down the right. Thank god for moses on the left.
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Post by jmst4 on Oct 19, 2014 15:59:13 GMT
Phil Bardsley off for me, otherwise can see him getting a second yellow.
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Post by crownmeking on Oct 19, 2014 15:59:25 GMT
Jamie Carragher can shut his mouth.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 19, 2014 15:59:33 GMT
Ireland off Sidwell on.
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Post by siggy on Oct 19, 2014 15:59:35 GMT
Shawcross holding is dumb but look at Swanseas shirt pulling its all be being done when the ref can't see it - really sneaky - didn't Crouchy have a letter pulled off his shirt last season?
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Post by liamo on Oct 19, 2014 15:59:40 GMT
Either call that kind of thing a penalty or don't, if refs are going to start giving penalty's for it then they have to be consistent, it's gonna be a complete shit storm if some refs start penalising it and some don't
It happens in every single game, every single team does it, yet a lot of people will slag Shawcross off like it's only him exclusively
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Post by liathroid on Oct 19, 2014 15:59:52 GMT
fucking dreading all Swansea's corners in the 2nd half ,because Ryan does it all the time
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 19, 2014 16:00:15 GMT
Trevor Francis and Souness SLAGGING Stoke at half time. Sent from my GT-I9192 using proboards they can get in line, shocking home performance so far
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Post by NassauDave on Oct 19, 2014 16:00:25 GMT
It is clearly a foul but every team does this very fucking week
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Post by tuum on Oct 19, 2014 16:00:25 GMT
I think we should be a little concerned with our three yellows. If this game gets tasty in the 2nd half I can see us being down to 10 men, especially if the, ref has seen a replay of our pen and starts to even things up...again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 16:00:32 GMT
Trevor Francis and Souness SLAGGING Stoke at half time. Sent from my GT-I9192 using proboards To be fair we've been pretty shite
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Post by ruts66 on Oct 19, 2014 16:00:56 GMT
It's very evident we lack a real attacking presence down the right. Thank god for moses on the left. Wingie's absence has been our biggest problem this season...
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Post by greenhoff74 on Oct 19, 2014 16:01:15 GMT
Sky are spotlighting it at half time, the ref warned Shawcross before the corner was taken and he still did it, it was idiotic and brainless.
Jamie Carragher said he'd never seen anything so stupid as what Shawcross did.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 19, 2014 16:01:24 GMT
Ireland off, Arnie in the right. Midfield of Nzonzi and Adam infront.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Oct 19, 2014 16:02:15 GMT
It is clearly a foul but every team does this very fucking week every corner at every fucking level too. Bullshit call.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 19, 2014 16:02:18 GMT
GCam on for Bardsley as he looks nailed on for a red. On the hour I'd look at Bojon on for Ireland or Diouf depending on whether we want to play 2 up front.
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 19, 2014 16:02:33 GMT
just hope the refs consistently apply the rules now Stupid by Ryan but lets not kid ourselves he's the only one who does it. Sky highlighting him previously hasn't helped and there was always going to be wanting to make a name for himself. Thankfully he evened it up for us. Adam has been our best player by a country mile he's the only midfielder with the guts to go forward. We're very lucky to be on level terms. I fear we may be down to 10 in the near future. ryan does get singled out on occasions by the media for his rough house tactics but like you say hes by no means the only one , skirtel is just as bad . we need to be less ponderous in the second half , i can see pieters seeing red today unless hughes makes a change
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 19, 2014 16:03:14 GMT
BT Did a spotlight on ShawX at QPR & now we're reaping their efforts. Thanks BT!!!
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Post by Boothen on Oct 19, 2014 16:03:20 GMT
Bloody hell, N'zonzi has Ebola.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Oct 19, 2014 16:03:24 GMT
I've just seen a replay of the Shawcross/Bony incident. 50/50 for me, both have hold of each other but it's Bony who falls to the ground.
It's been said already, the ref had decided it was a penalty before the game. What with the media talk of Shawcross to Man Utd it wouldn't surprise me if Hodgson has influenced the refereeing. Michael Oliver to ref some big games now. If it wasn't biased, there'll be another 3 or 4 penalties for the same this game.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 19, 2014 16:03:24 GMT
It's very evident we lack a real attacking presence down the right. Thank god for moses on the left. Wingie's absence has been our biggest problem this season... I'd say that coupled with bardsley not being a threat in the overlap when we had that with Cameron who worked wonders with peter down the right. Problem is bardsley is a better defender but his build up play is atrocious.
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Post by ohbottom on Oct 19, 2014 16:03:35 GMT
did he pull BONY DOWN I should have put a smiley in there, sorry. I'm just someone who happens to think Wilson doesn't get as much slack as other players do.
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Post by siggy on Oct 19, 2014 16:04:18 GMT
Ireland off, Arnie in the right. Midfield of Nzonzi and Adam infront. Must be bad - he's played with Glen Johnson for loads of games
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Post by underdog on Oct 19, 2014 16:04:44 GMT
We will have a player sent off today. My money on bardsley Was just thinking that me sen. I'd av him off for muniesa
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 19, 2014 16:06:27 GMT
Ireland off, Arnie in the right. Midfield of Nzonzi and Adam infront. Arnie isn't even in the squad hes injured
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 19, 2014 16:08:01 GMT
He is? from the international break?
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Post by jmst4 on Oct 19, 2014 16:08:24 GMT
Moses looks knackered!
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