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Post by metalhead on Oct 2, 2014 8:23:02 GMT
Just like Spurs they got rid of one world class player for a huge sum of money and decided to invest in several shitty players rather then a couple world class goal-getters... This. They signed Lallana who's a one season wonder, Lambert who's a cart horse, Lovren who is massively overrated and a whole load of other very average players. Really Suarez made Liverpool half decent. Without him, they're about Southamptons level.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 2, 2014 8:25:23 GMT
Rubbish keeper + awful defence + knackered Gerrard + No Suarez = Wank Liverpool I certainly agree over the keeper. He's a proper flapper. Not even close to Bego.
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Post by coates on Oct 2, 2014 9:03:33 GMT
Just like Spurs they got rid of one world class player for a huge sum of money and decided to invest in several shitty players rather then a couple world class goal-getters... This. They signed Lallana who's a one season wonder, Lambert who's a cart horse, Lovren who is massively overrated and a whole load of other very average players. Really Suarez made Liverpool half decent. Without him, they're about Southamptons level. All them years outside the champions league have hurt Liverpool, look at the players United can attract without having champions league this season.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Oct 2, 2014 9:34:49 GMT
Rogers for me still hasn't addressed Liverpool back line. It was shaky last season and despite bringing in Lovren and those two Spanish lads it still looks shaky now. I think they're probably lacking a leader and Im sure the keeper doesn't instil confidence in the back 4 either.
As for up front they were always going to struggle to replace Suarez but I think had Sturridge been available for the last few games I think they would have been okay.
My Liverpool supporting mate made a good point re the summer recruitment he said that obviously they needed a bigger squad to account for the Champions League than they had last year so they needed to bring in some back up options unfortunately a bit like us in our first season up when we needed a bigger squad some of those players don't quite make the grade. Spurs didn't really need to spend the Bale money in the way they did whereas Liverpool sort of did.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Oct 2, 2014 9:52:10 GMT
Just like Spurs they got rid of one world class player for a huge sum of money and decided to invest in several shitty players rather then a couple world class goal-getters... This. They signed Lallana who's a one season wonder, Lambert who's a cart horse, Lovren who is massively overrated and a whole load of other very average players. Really Suarez made Liverpool half decent. Without him, they're about Southamptons level. So, by that you mean second in the League?
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Post by jimmygscfc on Oct 2, 2014 9:54:28 GMT
I thought they looked really good against Spurs away a few weeks ago, but they've been decidedly average in every other game. Balotelli isn't fit to lace Suarez's boots (but, to be fair, not many are). Sterling has been playing very well, but was dire tonight. And the Serbian guy they paid £20m+ for hasn't exactly hit the ground running. Sturridge is clearly being missed It's going to be interesting to see how they phase Gerrard out. I like the bloke - but he's finished. But quite how they go about dispensing with him is anyone's guess. He's like the Queen Mother on Merseyside and I can't see Rodgers having the balls to kill Bambi and move him on Spot on as usual Grapey. It has to be Gerrard's final season, but will Rodgers have the balls to end his career?
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Post by ladyinred on Oct 2, 2014 9:57:56 GMT
Bastards did for my acca last night ???? I had Basel in my Acca - won a Five Fold!
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Post by superscfc on Oct 2, 2014 9:58:07 GMT
Liverpool lost IMO one of the top 3/4 players in the world and didn't sign a single world class individual to make up for the loss of Suarez.
They spent Lallana - £25m, Can - £10m, Markovic - £20m, Lovren - £20m, Origi - £10m, Moreno - £12m, Mario - £16m, Lambert - £5m
Lallana - Most overpriced player of the window. Not CL quality. Can - Has potential but a head scratching signing. Not CL quality. Markovic - Half decent winger, could be a flop. Not CL quality IMO. Lovren - Decent CB, not CL quality Origi - Has a bright future but still at Lille. Moreno - Looks a good signing. CL quality Balotelli - Great on his day, liability at times, a massive massive gamble. CL quality. Lambert - last payday. Not CL quality
I don't understand what Rogers is doing. He needed a world class forward and a shit hot CM, he hasn't got either, he's just spunked his money on loads of players who they've essentially been ripped off for because everyone knew they have money. Mignolet is a bang average keeper, he lets Pepe Reina walk into Bayern as 2nd choice, Agger leaves for whatever reason but I always thought he was fairly decent but they have a fair few center halves now. They've spent over £100m the only players of Champions League quality they've signed are a full back and someone as reliable as Arnie.
Rogers has made some mad decisions, why did they bother signing some of these players. I wouldn't be surprised to see Spurs finish higher if they can get their act together
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Post by chopandmash on Oct 2, 2014 10:21:03 GMT
Liverpool lost IMO one of the top 3/4 players in the world and didn't sign a single world class individual to make up for the loss of Suarez. They spent Lallana - £25m, Can - £10m, Markovic - £20m, Lovren - £20m, Origi - £10m, Moreno - £12m, Mario - £16m, Lambert - £5m Lallana - Most overpriced player of the window. Not CL quality. Can - Has potential but a head scratching signing. Not CL quality. Markovic - Half decent winger, could be a flop. Not CL quality IMO. Lovren - Decent CB, not CL quality Origi - Has a bright future but still at Lille. Moreno - Looks a good signing. CL quality Balotelli - Great on his day, liability at times, a massive massive gamble. CL quality. Lambert - last payday. Not CL quality I don't understand what Rogers is doing. He needed a world class forward and a shit hot CM, he hasn't got either, he's just spunked his money on loads of players who they've essentially been ripped off for because everyone knew they have money. Mignolet is a bang average keeper, he lets Pepe Reina walk into Bayern as 2nd choice, Agger leaves for whatever reason but I always thought he was fairly decent but they have a fair few center halves now. They've spent over £100m the only players of Champions League quality they've signed are a full back and someone as reliable as Arnie. Rogers has made some mad decisions, why did they bother signing some of these players. I wouldn't be surprised to see Spurs finish higher if they can get their act together To be fair to Rodgers hes got the added pressure of picking the England team as well.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 2, 2014 10:25:35 GMT
This. They signed Lallana who's a one season wonder, Lambert who's a cart horse, Lovren who is massively overrated and a whole load of other very average players. Really Suarez made Liverpool half decent. Without him, they're about Southamptons level. So, by that you mean second in the League? Come May?
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Post by malteser68 on Oct 2, 2014 10:55:55 GMT
This. They signed Lallana who's a one season wonder, Lambert who's a cart horse, Lovren who is massively overrated and a whole load of other very average players. Really Suarez made Liverpool half decent. Without him, they're about Southamptons level. All them years outside the champions league have hurt Liverpool, look at the players United can attract without having champions league this season. who have utd attracted? Di Maria ok but don't tell me falcao!! Falcao is the biggest whore in world football. All he cares about is money. If a team from Uzbekistan was able to better utd's wage offer he would certainly have joined them. No other reason why he chose shitty Monaco over a host of much better teams which wanted to sign him. Only reason was the fact that Monaco is a tax haven
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Post by Clem Fandango on Oct 2, 2014 10:58:01 GMT
Liverpool lost IMO one of the top 3/4 players in the world and didn't sign a single world class individual to make up for the loss of Suarez. They spent Lallana - £25m, Can - £10m, Markovic - £20m, Lovren - £20m, Origi - £10m, Moreno - £12m, Mario - £16m, Lambert - £5m Lallana - Most overpriced player of the window. Not CL quality. Can - Has potential but a head scratching signing. Not CL quality. Markovic - Half decent winger, could be a flop. Not CL quality IMO. Lovren - Decent CB, not CL quality Origi - Has a bright future but still at Lille. Moreno - Looks a good signing. CL quality Balotelli - Great on his day, liability at times, a massive massive gamble. CL quality. Lambert - last payday. Not CL quality I don't understand what Rogers is doing. He needed a world class forward and a shit hot CM, he hasn't got either, he's just spunked his money on loads of players who they've essentially been ripped off for because everyone knew they have money. Mignolet is a bang average keeper, he lets Pepe Reina walk into Bayern as 2nd choice, Agger leaves for whatever reason but I always thought he was fairly decent but they have a fair few center halves now. They've spent over £100m the only players of Champions League quality they've signed are a full back and someone as reliable as Arnie. Rogers has made some mad decisions, why did they bother signing some of these players. I wouldn't be surprised to see Spurs finish higher if they can get their act together To be fair they needed a bigger squad to cope with Europe as well as needing a world class forward and a world class CM so they either needed to strengthen the squad buying more players or they needed to buy two world class players and risk fielding youth players if and when injuries hit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 10:58:43 GMT
Would anyone else rather our squad than there's?
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Post by superscfc on Oct 2, 2014 11:18:07 GMT
Liverpool lost IMO one of the top 3/4 players in the world and didn't sign a single world class individual to make up for the loss of Suarez. They spent Lallana - £25m, Can - £10m, Markovic - £20m, Lovren - £20m, Origi - £10m, Moreno - £12m, Mario - £16m, Lambert - £5m Lallana - Most overpriced player of the window. Not CL quality. Can - Has potential but a head scratching signing. Not CL quality. Markovic - Half decent winger, could be a flop. Not CL quality IMO. Lovren - Decent CB, not CL quality Origi - Has a bright future but still at Lille. Moreno - Looks a good signing. CL quality Balotelli - Great on his day, liability at times, a massive massive gamble. CL quality. Lambert - last payday. Not CL quality I don't understand what Rogers is doing. He needed a world class forward and a shit hot CM, he hasn't got either, he's just spunked his money on loads of players who they've essentially been ripped off for because everyone knew they have money. Mignolet is a bang average keeper, he lets Pepe Reina walk into Bayern as 2nd choice, Agger leaves for whatever reason but I always thought he was fairly decent but they have a fair few center halves now. They've spent over £100m the only players of Champions League quality they've signed are a full back and someone as reliable as Arnie. Rogers has made some mad decisions, why did they bother signing some of these players. I wouldn't be surprised to see Spurs finish higher if they can get their act together To be fair they needed a bigger squad to cope with Europe as well as needing a world class forward and a world class CM so they either needed to strengthen the squad buying more players or they needed to buy two world class players and risk fielding youth players if and when injuries hit. you can only field 11 players though mate, Lovren isn't all that better than Agger, Lallana isn't as good as Coutinho or Sterling, likewise with Can and Markovic IMO. Moreno is the only one that makes sense to me, Alex Song has signed for West Ham that would have been a sensible signing, they haven't improved whatsoever, they've done a Spurs of last season. He may be getting on but why didn't they try to sign Alonso? He's been very vocal since leaving anfield about his love for the club, surely he would have jumped at the price he went Bayern for too it would have been a snip, not a 90 minute player anymore but still world class. If it goes tits up in the CL as well as finishing outside the top 4 Liverpool fans WILL get on the back of Rogers, we know how fickle football fans are and especially those lot. I for one will enjoy watching their demise for getting too cocky too quickly last season oh and for their attitude of 'We'll beat Stoke, Stoke are shit' type supporters.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Oct 2, 2014 11:46:22 GMT
To be fair they needed a bigger squad to cope with Europe as well as needing a world class forward and a world class CM so they either needed to strengthen the squad buying more players or they needed to buy two world class players and risk fielding youth players if and when injuries hit. you can only field 11 players though mate, Lovren isn't all that better than Agger, Lallana isn't as good as Coutinho or Sterling, likewise with Can and Markovic IMO. Moreno is the only one that makes sense to me, Alex Song has signed for West Ham that would have been a sensible signing, they haven't improved whatsoever, they've done a Spurs of last season. He may be getting on but why didn't they try to sign Alonso? He's been very vocal since leaving anfield about his love for the club, surely he would have jumped at the price he went Bayern for too it would have been a snip, not a 90 minute player anymore but still world class. If it goes tits up in the CL as well as finishing outside the top 4 Liverpool fans WILL get on the back of Rogers, we know how fickle football fans are and especially those lot. I for one will enjoy watching their demise for getting too cocky too quickly last season oh and for their attitude of 'We'll beat Stoke, Stoke are shit' type supporters. Oh I know but you need to be able to rotate those 11 players though over the course of the season if you're battling on multiple fronts. From last seasons starting 11 they've lost Suarez and replaced him with Balotelli whilst dropping either Sakho, Toure or Skirtel for Lovren and Flanagan for Moreno. Suarez to Balotelli is definitely a downgrade but Lovren is more or less the same as the others. Agger is a better defender but I think he asked to leave plus my Liverpool supporting mate reckons he was always injured anyway so have they lost much?. They've improved the overall squad though by adding in Can, Markovic and Lallana who whilst aren't going to necessarily dislodge Coutinho or Sterling can do a capable job as the former also has injury issues. I think they missed a trick in not buying a Gerrard replacement whilst they had the cash but who could they have bought this summer who would have replaced Suarez whilst also having the cash to buy some more squad players? i don't think its great business what they did but they were always going to struggle to find a replacement for Jaws.
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Post by thestatusquo on Oct 2, 2014 12:49:23 GMT
Sturridge (who I'm sure I saw blurring around Holmes Chapel in a white Ferrari on Sunday) is a big miss and he'll bag a few when hes back but defensively they are a shambles. Gerrard looks finished but I don't think Rodgers has the bottle to drop him which makes it funnier.
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Post by redstriper on Oct 2, 2014 12:51:42 GMT
I'm loving it. Even got a handy bet on them finishing bottom of the handicap league and therefore winning the title of underperformers of the year. The only title they were ever going to get anywhere near this time around.
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 2, 2014 13:46:06 GMT
Sturridge (who I'm sure I saw blurring around Holmes Chapel in a white Ferrari on Sunday) is a big miss and he'll bag a few when hes back but defensively they are a shambles. Gerrard looks finished but I don't think Rodgers has the bottle to drop him which makes it funnier. Attachment Deleted
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Post by malteser68 on Oct 2, 2014 14:35:09 GMT
you can only field 11 players though mate, Lovren isn't all that better than Agger, Lallana isn't as good as Coutinho or Sterling, likewise with Can and Markovic IMO. Moreno is the only one that makes sense to me, Alex Song has signed for West Ham that would have been a sensible signing, they haven't improved whatsoever, they've done a Spurs of last season. He may be getting on but why didn't they try to sign Alonso? He's been very vocal since leaving anfield about his love for the club, surely he would have jumped at the price he went Bayern for too it would have been a snip, not a 90 minute player anymore but still world class. If it goes tits up in the CL as well as finishing outside the top 4 Liverpool fans WILL get on the back of Rogers, we know how fickle football fans are and especially those lot. I for one will enjoy watching their demise for getting too cocky too quickly last season oh and for their attitude of 'We'll beat Stoke, Stoke are shit' type supporters. Oh I know but you need to be able to rotate those 11 players though over the course of the season if you're battling on multiple fronts. From last seasons starting 11 they've lost Suarez and replaced him with Balotelli whilst dropping either Sakho, Toure or Skirtel for Lovren and Flanagan for Moreno. Suarez to Balotelli is definitely a downgrade but Lovren is more or less the same as the others. Agger is a better defender but I think he asked to leave plus my Liverpool supporting mate reckons he was always injured anyway so have they lost much?. They've improved the overall squad though by adding in Can, Markovic and Lallana who whilst aren't going to necessarily dislodge Coutinho or Sterling can do a capable job as the former also has injury issues. I think they missed a trick in not buying a Gerrard replacement whilst they had the cash but who could they have bought this summer who would have replaced Suarez whilst also having the cash to buy some more squad players? i don't think its great business what they did but they were always going to struggle to find a replacement for Jaws. I've read on a number of posts about lpool's failure to buy 'a Gerrard replacement'. So who do you reckon could have been a realistic target as 'a Gerrard replacement'?
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Post by Clem Fandango on Oct 2, 2014 14:54:20 GMT
Oh I know but you need to be able to rotate those 11 players though over the course of the season if you're battling on multiple fronts. From last seasons starting 11 they've lost Suarez and replaced him with Balotelli whilst dropping either Sakho, Toure or Skirtel for Lovren and Flanagan for Moreno. Suarez to Balotelli is definitely a downgrade but Lovren is more or less the same as the others. Agger is a better defender but I think he asked to leave plus my Liverpool supporting mate reckons he was always injured anyway so have they lost much?. They've improved the overall squad though by adding in Can, Markovic and Lallana who whilst aren't going to necessarily dislodge Coutinho or Sterling can do a capable job as the former also has injury issues. I think they missed a trick in not buying a Gerrard replacement whilst they had the cash but who could they have bought this summer who would have replaced Suarez whilst also having the cash to buy some more squad players? i don't think its great business what they did but they were always going to struggle to find a replacement for Jaws. I've read on a number of posts about lpool's failure to buy 'a Gerrard replacement'. So who do you reckon could have been a realistic target as 'a Gerrard replacement'? No idea. Which is precisely what I said about a Suarez replacement.
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Post by malteser68 on Oct 2, 2014 14:59:53 GMT
That's the problem. Not many players out there of Gerard's pedigree. Add that to what he represents to lpool and you come to the conclusion that there is no real replacement
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Post by britsabroad on Oct 2, 2014 16:18:04 GMT
That's the problem. Not many players out there of Gerard's pedigree. Add that to what he represents to lpool and you come to the conclusion that there is no real replacement Gerrard hasn't been 'Gerrard pedigree' for a few years now. There are plenty of players who could replace his qualities, but none of them are Mr. Liverpool (lets ignore his attempts to go to Chelsea).
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Post by stokienorthants on Oct 3, 2014 7:42:11 GMT
Just like Spurs they got rid of one world class player for a huge sum of money and decided to invest in several shitty players rather then a couple world class goal-getters... To misquote Garth Crooks it looks like they've sold Elvis and bought The Crankies!
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 3, 2014 7:51:03 GMT
Balotelli hasnt been impressive for Liverpool yet has he?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 8:31:22 GMT
Balotelli hasnt been impressive for Liverpool yet has he? No but that's because he is an overrated fuck wipe who just walks around the pitch as if he's the best player to have ever lived,when in reality he is a bang average player who can take a good penalty.
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Post by britsabroad on Oct 3, 2014 10:59:29 GMT
Balotelli hasnt been impressive for Liverpool yet has he? No but that's because he is an overrated fuck wipe who just walks around the pitch as if he's the best player to have ever lived,when in reality he is a bang average player who can take a good penalty. Exactly. He hasn't been particularly impressive anywhere.
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Post by coates on Oct 3, 2014 11:08:11 GMT
Balotelli hasnt been impressive for Liverpool yet has he? No but that's because he is an overrated fuck wipe who just walks around the pitch as if he's the best player to have ever lived,when in reality he is a bang average player who can take a good penalty. Wouldn't say bang average.
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Post by britsabroad on Oct 3, 2014 13:32:54 GMT
No but that's because he is an overrated fuck wipe who just walks around the pitch as if he's the best player to have ever lived,when in reality he is a bang average player who can take a good penalty. Wouldn't say bang average. The saying goes that a good striker will get you a goal every 2 games, a 50% strike rate. The Suarezs and Van Persies of the world will get you a 75% rate. The Ronaldos and Messis will get you a goal a game. Balotelli has broken 50% for a full season once in his career, and by a whisker at that. Bang average is a very accurate description.
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