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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 11:35:08 GMT
...suprise hidden gems
muniesa in front of goal?
Have there been other players in the past?
I think Bojan would be better on the front...especially with muni to inspire him
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 24, 2014 11:52:11 GMT
As I said on another thread, perhaps the most high profile recent "convert" from one position to another, is Gareth Bale who started out as a left back.
Kris Commons also started as a left back and Thierry Henry was a conventional winger when he was brought to England by Arsenal.
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Post by sutekh on Sept 24, 2014 12:37:57 GMT
Ray kennedy was a forward with arsenal until his transfer to Liverpool in 1974 where bill shankly converted him to a left sided midfielder. Jimmy greaves always considered kennedy to be the midfield player of the 70's.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 24, 2014 12:45:33 GMT
Kyle Lightbourne was a prolific striker until we bought him.
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Post by jarhead on Sept 24, 2014 13:11:35 GMT
Thierry Henry winger at Juve to a record goalscorer at the Brittle Bone Unit.
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Post by unknown182 on Sept 24, 2014 13:15:30 GMT
Sidibe used to play CB when he was younger
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Post by salopstick on Sept 24, 2014 13:19:26 GMT
wasnt dion dublin a converted CB
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Post by basingstokie on Sept 24, 2014 14:56:38 GMT
Vincent Pericard spent years pretending to be a footballer before he became a jailbird
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 24, 2014 15:19:47 GMT
Big Bren moved from striker to centre back.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 15:23:27 GMT
apparently ryan Shotton was a forward...hang on, no a left back..or maybe it was right back..........or right wing???? fuck knows, someone ask Tone
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Sept 24, 2014 15:27:08 GMT
Steve Bould was a bit of a liability at right back, but became a top class centre half, and from a similar era, Carl Saunders was converted from a right back (?) to a striker who went on an incredible scoring run.
Like the Ray Kennedy example, I saw Mark Lawrenson play left wing for Brighton at the Vic, and he went on to become a brilliant centre half. Didn't John Wark also move from a second striker to a more defensive midfielder at Liverpool?
I've often said we all get too hung up on positions and systems. Good players are adaptable.
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Post by march4 on Sept 24, 2014 16:32:27 GMT
Steve Bould was a bit of a liability at right back, but became a top class centre half, and from a similar era, Carl Saunders was converted from a right back (?) to a striker who went on an incredible scoring run. Like the Ray Kennedy example, I saw Mark Lawrenson play left wing for Brighton at the Vic, and he went on to become a brilliant centre half. Didn't John Wark also move from a second striker to a more defensive midfielder at Liverpool? I've often said we all get too hung up on positions and systems. Good players are adaptable. Bouldy played centre forward as a sub on his league debut. I think we lost to Leeds in a night match at the Vic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 16:36:23 GMT
I believe Chris Sutton started life as a Centre Half,
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Post by onionman on Sept 24, 2014 16:37:18 GMT
Nigel Gleghorn was transformed from an ineffective ageing winger into a brilliant midfield playmaker.
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Post by scfcwebby on Sept 24, 2014 16:39:43 GMT
Who was the Nottingham Forest CB who was played at CF and was banging them in for fun last season??
Edit - Greg Halford??
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 24, 2014 16:41:51 GMT
Steve Bould was a bit of a liability at right back, but became a top class centre half, and from a similar era, Carl Saunders was converted from a right back (?) to a striker who went on an incredible scoring run. Like the Ray Kennedy example, I saw Mark Lawrenson play left wing for Brighton at the Vic, and he went on to become a brilliant centre half. Didn't John Wark also move from a second striker to a more defensive midfielder at Liverpool? I've often said we all get too hung up on positions and systems. Good players are adaptable. Bouldy played centre forward as a sub on his league debut. I think we lost to Leeds in a night match at the Vic. Bould's debut was away to Boro.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 17:14:15 GMT
Steve Bould was a bit of a liability at right back, but became a top class centre half... Bould at full back was as bad a footballer as I can ever remember at Stoke. The transformation when he went to centre half was incredible.
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Post by countofmontecristo on Sept 24, 2014 17:32:30 GMT
Nigel Gleghorn was transformed from an ineffective ageing winger into a brilliant midfield playmaker. Thought about this the other day.... with Stewart Downing making the switch from thoroughly wank winger to match winning midfield meastro! Paul Warhust made a pretty remarkable switch too!
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Post by march4 on Sept 24, 2014 17:35:13 GMT
Bouldy played centre forward as a sub on his league debut. I think we lost to Leeds in a night match at the Vic. Bould's debut was away to Boro. That was his full debut, wasn't it. I remember his family getting very excited when he came on for the last 5mins, but was played up front. Perhaps I'm thinking of his home debut. It was a good while ago Joe.
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Post by onionman on Sept 24, 2014 17:41:48 GMT
Nigel Gleghorn was transformed from an ineffective ageing winger into a brilliant midfield playmaker. Thought about this the other day.... with Stewart Downing making the switch from thoroughly wank winger to match winning midfield meastro! Paul Warhust made a pretty remarkable switch too! And Gleghorn's spot on the wing was taken by crappy left-back Graham Potter too, so we can add him to the list. The best thing Gleghorn did was make Ray Wallace and Graham Potter look good, for that one season. Wallace and Potter did the running, Gleghorn played the football. Warhurst had one amazing run of games filling in as a striker for Sheff Wed when David Hirst was injured, then refused to go back to defence after Hirst returned.
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Post by werrington on Sept 24, 2014 17:50:55 GMT
Ian Marshall Oldham athletic
Centre half until he went centre forward in an emergency and never looked back or went back to centre half
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 17:56:21 GMT
Was Danny Collins a centre half or a left back by trade?
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Post by onionman on Sept 24, 2014 17:57:20 GMT
Was Danny Collins a centre half or a left back by trade? He was a striker for Chester?
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Post by onionman on Sept 24, 2014 17:58:34 GMT
Ian Marshall Oldham athletic Centre half until he went centre forward in an emergency and never looked back or went back to centre half Now there's an old-fashioned centre forward. What about Ian Ormondroyd? Converted into a winger by Graham Taylor. Didn't work out.
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Post by countofmontecristo on Sept 24, 2014 18:00:02 GMT
Thought about this the other day.... with Stewart Downing making the switch from thoroughly wank winger to match winning midfield meastro! Paul Warhust made a pretty remarkable switch too! And Gleghorn's spot on the wing was taken by crappy left-back Graham Potter too, so we can add him to the list. The best thing Gleghorn did was make Ray Wallace and Graham Potter look good, for that one season. Wallace and Potter did the running, Gleghorn played the football. Warhurst had one amazing run of games filling in as a striker for Sheff Wed when David Hirst was injured, then refused to go back to defence after Hirst returned. Back on the home front, didn't we sign Lee Sandford as a left winger before he became part of our 'famous' back four?
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Post by werrington on Sept 24, 2014 18:02:49 GMT
Ian Marshall Oldham athletic Centre half until he went centre forward in an emergency and never looked back or went back to centre half Now there's an old-fashioned centre forward. What about Ian Ormondroyd? Converted into a winger by Graham Taylor. Didn't work out. I thought he did well at left wing mate but my memory fades me ? He alongside Phil Gee were excellent as a front 2 at Derby
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Post by onionman on Sept 24, 2014 18:03:45 GMT
And Gleghorn's spot on the wing was taken by crappy left-back Graham Potter too, so we can add him to the list. The best thing Gleghorn did was make Ray Wallace and Graham Potter look good, for that one season. Wallace and Potter did the running, Gleghorn played the football. Warhurst had one amazing run of games filling in as a striker for Sheff Wed when David Hirst was injured, then refused to go back to defence after Hirst returned. Back on the home front, didn't we sign Lee Sandford as a left winger before he became part of our 'famous' back four? Yes, and he was rubbish in midfield. He was good at centre back, and solid at left back.
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Post by onionman on Sept 24, 2014 18:08:16 GMT
Now there's an old-fashioned centre forward. What about Ian Ormondroyd? Converted into a winger by Graham Taylor. Didn't work out. I thought he did well at left wing mate but my memory fades me ? He alongside Phil Gee were excellent as a front 2 at Derby My memory could also be letting me down, Wezza, though I seem to recall him being a bit of a laughing stock on the wing. That might have been Jimmy Greaves's fault for dubbing him Rodney Trotter. Taylor also tried Carlton Palmer on the wing - that one definitely didn't work out. More Stoke players in strange career shifts: Tony Henry at centre back and Tony Ford at right back. At the same time.
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Post by coates on Sept 24, 2014 18:25:15 GMT
Bale?
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Post by lagwafis on Sept 24, 2014 18:27:32 GMT
Thought about this the other day.... with Stewart Downing making the switch from thoroughly wank winger to match winning midfield meastro! Paul Warhust made a pretty remarkable switch too! And Gleghorn's spot on the wing was taken by crappy left-back Graham Potter too, so we can add him to the list. The best thing Gleghorn did was make Ray Wallace and Graham Potter look good, for that one season. Wallace and Potter did the running, Gleghorn played the football. Warhurst had one amazing run of games filling in as a striker for Sheff Wed when David Hirst was injured, then refused to go back to defence after Hirst returned. That was some of Lou's finest work in 1995. No money to spend so build a completely new midfield out of Gleghorn and Wallace (who was signed as a right back from his time at Leeds). Potter never convinced me as an out and out winger but he could put in a good cross. Jordan had also occasionally been playing Sturridge out on the right wing before Lou bought him into the middle alongside first Gayle then Sheron. Sigurdsson also became more accomplished in the middle after starting out at left back prior to Overson and Cranson getting injured. Lou could have transformed Martin Carruthers into a Roberto Carlos-esque left back that season if he wanted. Didn't Shearer start out at Newcastle as a goalkeeper before finding his way at Southampton as a striker.
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