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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 30, 2014 21:56:29 GMT
Watched Wilson and Shawcross today with a bit more of an eagle eye given the pressure they were under in the first half and the dodgy nature of our back 5 in the first two games
Very good to see both of them were talking and pointing throughout. Both of their positional play was excellent and both gave each other encouragement throughout
Also very good to see the old Begovic re-appear - shouting and clapping his defence constantly
Shawcross was immense, but so was Wilson
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Post by dwr17477 on Aug 30, 2014 22:00:28 GMT
Fair play to Wilson but I do worry - in general, really - but they have done well broadly speaking but...I love this Moses guy...he looks just what we need...off the subject but he could suit us down to the ground.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Aug 30, 2014 22:01:56 GMT
Agreed , the same back 4 were unrecognisable from the previous two games , but why ?
It's a funny old game as they say !
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Post by entropy92 on Aug 30, 2014 22:06:24 GMT
Still wouldnt have Wilson over Huth. He played well today but we had men behind the ball at all times. When we attack in games and our defence can become exposed and thats when I worry with him. Plus Huth is always a threat from corners
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 30, 2014 22:11:06 GMT
That's the problem with Wilson...he's unreliable.
You know how he's going to play after 5 minutes and today you could see instantly that there was an urgency to his defending.
He wasn't half asleep like he was in our first 2 league fixtures.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 30, 2014 22:11:17 GMT
Still wouldnt have Wilson over Huth. He played well today but we had men behind the ball at all times. When we attack in games and our defence can become exposed and thats when I worry with him. Plus Huth is always a threat from corners He was awesome today and therefore should keep his place |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 22:12:21 GMT
That's the problem with Wilson...he's unreliable. You know how he's going to play after 5 minutes and today you could see instantly that there was an urgency to his defending. He wasn't half asleep like he was in our first 2 league fixtures. This is very true. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 30, 2014 22:13:23 GMT
That's the problem with Wilson...he's unreliable. You know how he's going to play after 5 minutes and today you could see instantly that there was an urgency to his defending. He wasn't half asleep like he was in our first 2 league fixtures. Maybe - but the manager clearly believes in him. The first two games, Shawcross and Wilson did not communicate enough. Today they did, constantly. If that continues I see no reason to change it |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 30, 2014 22:14:03 GMT
That's the problem with Wilson...he's unreliable. You know how he's going to play after 5 minutes and today you could see instantly that there was an urgency to his defending. He wasn't half asleep like he was in our first 2 league fixtures. This is very true. He's never been any different in my opinion. I'm not sure I've ever seen such a trait in a professional footballer before. |
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Post by nonameface on Aug 30, 2014 22:18:22 GMT
He definitely has his moments of lapse in concentration, but today he showed how good he can be. He deserves to start again with Shawcross until we are only dropping points in games because of Wilson only. He offers a lot more than Huth with the ball and provides better balance too; there is a chance that he could become a strong player for us and we should give him that chance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 22:19:29 GMT
In my opinion, Wilson's main problem has always been concentration. He switches off three or four times every game, and this costs us on occasions. In a game against Man City, there's no time to do this. If you could cut out that deficiency in his game, he's a better fit than Huth.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 22:21:42 GMT
He's never been any different in my opinion. I'm not sure I've ever seen such a trait in a professional footballer before. Something I've never noticed to be fair until recently. It's rare you get it in centre halves. More a trait of a flair player or winger. |
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Aug 30, 2014 22:27:38 GMT
Out of a fully fit Huth and Wilson I would go with Huth every time. But the wall is still coming back to full fitness. Wilson doesn't deserve to be dropped after today. He should start againstnLeicester and if he fucks up then be dropped the next game with Huth replacing him. That's the only way to play it isn't it?
On another note, Ryan. Just Ryan. My all time favourite player. Coming to us as young lad hungry for first team football so leaving the biggest club in England to come to the championship. Several seasons on he's still here as captain and one of the best centre halfs in the premier league, never mind the country. Man of integrity and a fucking fantastic footballer to boot.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 30, 2014 22:33:34 GMT
He's never been any different in my opinion. I'm not sure I've ever seen such a trait in a professional footballer before. The premise of the post and observation is, when they talk to each other, they both feed off each other. It did not happen for the first two games but it did today The last few games of last season, Wilson was very good, because they did what they did today |
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Post by smudger46 on Aug 31, 2014 16:29:58 GMT
Agreed , the same back 4 were unrecognisable from the previous two games , but why ? It's a funny old game as they say ! watching the game I think part of the defensive display was us having the 2 wingers willing to come back and defend and took in, where as if arnautivic had been on left wing this would not have happened excellent display all round and tbh I feared a cricket score if we played like we did against hull |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 16:46:12 GMT
That's the problem with Wilson...he's unreliable. You know how he's going to play after 5 minutes and today you could see instantly that there was an urgency to his defending. He wasn't half asleep like he was in our first 2 league fixtures. This is very true. As much as it may upset folk after a fantastic win yesterday this is 100% bang on. |
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Post by fca47 on Aug 31, 2014 16:47:35 GMT
Puts the anti-Wilson brigade in their places.
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Post by homer32 on Aug 31, 2014 16:59:10 GMT
I'm surprised Huth hasn't come back into the side to replace Wilson but LMH knows best.I agree Wilson is better on the ball & distributing & that probably gives him the edge with LMH.Huth is probably the better defender and would always be first choice with TP.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 31, 2014 17:03:49 GMT
Wilson is a fine player as I said last timeout he would grace any squad outside the top 4
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 31, 2014 17:13:35 GMT
Wilson is probably the best allround footballer in our defence, but he can be his own worst enemy at times! Sometimes he becomes to complacent or switches off for a second, but all in all a very good player.  |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 31, 2014 18:09:52 GMT
As much as it may upset folk after a fantastic win yesterday this is 100% bang on. Rubbish - last few games of the previous season he was very good and the game when Shawcross was suspended he took charge Both he and Shawcross were ropey the first two games, but yesterday they were both excellent and communicated Wilson is keeping Huth out and stepped in when Huth was injured and in the main has done very well |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 18:14:53 GMT
As much as it may upset folk after a fantastic win yesterday this is 100% bang on. Rubbish - last few games of the previous season he was very good and the game when Shawcross was suspended he took charge Both he and Shawcross were ropey the first two games, but yesterday they were both excellent and communicated Wilson is keeping Huth out and stepped in when Huth was injured and in the main has done very well If Huth is not fit fine, if LMH dunna fancy Huth over MW fine thats his choice but my opinion has not changed sorry. Like I said some will get upset ^ |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 31, 2014 18:29:20 GMT
Rubbish - last few games of the previous season he was very good and the game when Shawcross was suspended he took charge Both he and Shawcross were ropey the first two games, but yesterday they were both excellent and communicated Wilson is keeping Huth out and stepped in when Huth was injured and in the main has done very well If Huth is not fit fine, if LMH dunna fancy Huth over MW fine thats his choice but my opinion has not changed sorry. Like I said some will get upset ^ No worries fella - just think the Wilson bashing is a tad over the top Would love Huth to be back to full fitness but it looks a while off Hence I think Wilson has done a fine job to fill Huth's boots (sort of) |
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 31, 2014 18:33:21 GMT
I think the key is that Shawcross has to play well for Wilson to have a good game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 19:00:53 GMT
If Huth is not fit fine, if LMH dunna fancy Huth over MW fine thats his choice but my opinion has not changed sorry. Like I said some will get upset ^ No worries fella - just think the Wilson bashing is a tad over the top Would love Huth to be back to full fitness but it looks a while off Hence I think Wilson has done a fine job to fill Huth's boots (sort of) Some get hysterical about all kinds of stuff I take no notice, however i do think we need to find a partner for Ryan and I dont think Wilson is good enough too many mistakes. |
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Aug 31, 2014 19:25:18 GMT
Do not be surprised if Huth goes out on loan for a few months. ( if Geoff is back quickly )
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Post by mermaidsal on Aug 31, 2014 22:14:38 GMT
Watched Wilson and Shawcross today with a bit more of an eagle eye given the pressure they were under in the first half and the dodgy nature of our back 5 in the first two games Very good to see both of them were talking and pointing throughout. Both of their positional play was excellent and both gave each other encouragement throughout Also very good to see the old Begovic re-appear - shouting and clapping his defence constantly Shawcross was immense, but so was Wilson Agreed. And - it's taken a while but they're getting a good joint instinct now, if it's up there with Ryan and Huthy... hmm, but could be. Def on yesterday's showing. |
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Post by metalhead on Aug 31, 2014 23:08:22 GMT
Shawcross had a monster but pretty hard to knock Wilson. A very good performance and an excellent decision not to drop him at this time against a good Man City team.
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Post by wickerman on Sept 1, 2014 9:07:57 GMT
Do not be surprised if Huth goes out on loan for a few months. ( if Geoff is back quickly ) To a health farm to shift that extra stone of blubber he is carrying ??.. |
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