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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2014 17:04:53 GMT
£18M, I've quite literally heard it all now
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Post by lordb on Aug 29, 2014 17:11:20 GMT
Was it just a unfailingly stupid (given his knee issue,which surely we were aware of?) and expensive signing by TP or should we consider the possibility of it being a dodgy deal?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 29, 2014 17:12:20 GMT
Was it just a unfailingly stupid (given his knee issue,which surely we were aware of?) and expensive signing by TP or should we consider the possibility of it being a dodgy deal? I think it was a deal that looks a lot worse in hindsight. At the time we needed a player like Palacios more than we needed one like Crouch.
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Post by werrington on Aug 29, 2014 17:12:48 GMT
Yep Pulis's fault as well (read the op) - well suckered in by his supposed 'mate' though with friends like that - who needs enemies eh ? So Greenhoff - another example - your next door neighbour (and a drinking mate too by the way) sells you a broken lawnmower telling you 'its working be fine last time I looked' So of course, No blame attached at all, when you realise --- its broken and cant be repaired and - you got ripped off eh ? not a single thought to go around and tell him hes a cunter then ? mind numbing - yep So Pulis never did his homework on Palacios Tony ? It was all done on the word of Arry The plot thickens
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 18:19:05 GMT
Whoever agreed to that deal, Palacios was obviously part of it. If we didn't take him, we wouldn't get Peter. That's my view on it. Was it T.P. and Twitcher, or was someone else to blame? Still smacks of a stitch up to me!
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Post by chamberlain on Aug 29, 2014 18:41:13 GMT
It's not Redknapp's job to look out for Stoke City. Is Hughes guilty for swapping Odemwingie for that bag of shite Jones? I think we can all agree that it is one of the worst value for money signings that we've ever made but it's particularly odd as he isn't a bad player and has shown that occasionally. Never really understood what the issue was but time it was all put to an end ASAP. Sent from my GT-I8190N using proboards Pretty much sums it up mate
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Post by generationex on Aug 29, 2014 18:58:19 GMT
The problem with the conspiracy theories banded about is this : Palacios was a more eagerly anticipated signing by both the management and the support than Crouch.
It's hard to think of a more likely fit for the dogs home on paper at that time.
I heard two years ago that the club was satisfied that Pally's problems were psychological and not physical.
I can't remember being more disappointed in a signing though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 19:24:34 GMT
He wasn't more eagerly anticipated by me!
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Post by march4 on Aug 29, 2014 19:29:39 GMT
The signing of Palacios was celebrated by nearly every poster on this message board.
We were a bit more suspicious about Crouchy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 19:53:21 GMT
Yep Pulis's fault as well (read the op) - well suckered in by his supposed 'mate' though with friends like that - who needs enemies eh ? So Greenhoff - another example - your next door neighbour (and a drinking mate too by the way) sells you a broken lawnmower telling you 'its working be fine last time I looked' So of course, No blame attached at all, when you realise --- its broken and cant be repaired and - you got ripped off eh ? not a single thought to go around and tell him hes a cunter then ? mind numbing - yep Lawn mowers?? Neighbours??? Car salesmen??? Its a multi-million pound industry with managers/chairmen/CEO that earn more in a year than I will earn in my career. Do you honestly think anyone worries about screwing someone over for a few quid. TP had a boner for Palacios/Crouch and nothing was going to stop him, even Coates was uneasy about the deal. WP passed a medical and was deemed fit. Theres only on fella to blame and it ain't Rednapp.
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Post by Beardy200 on Aug 29, 2014 20:01:30 GMT
Yep Pulis's fault as well (read the op) - well suckered in by his supposed 'mate' though with friends like that - who needs enemies eh ? So Greenhoff - another example - your next door neighbour (and a drinking mate too by the way) sells you a broken lawnmower telling you 'its working be fine last time I looked' So of course, No blame attached at all, when you realise --- its broken and cant be repaired and - you got ripped off eh ? not a single thought to go around and tell him hes a cunter then ? mind numbing - yep Not bad Tone but if you employed a team of experts that should know all there is to know about lawnmowers and they checkef it out and gave you their verdict then you're to blame. Either your employed lawnmower experts are shit at their job or you've ignored their advice and took a gamble. Under those circumstances the neighbour can't take too much blame.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 20:42:36 GMT
So
'Under those circumstance, The neighbour cant take too much blame'
and
in the case of this neighbour - having a reputation for doing stuff like that for years ?
what a truly naive world it really is
Bottom line -we got sold a right 'dog' - we should've known better but we didint -(blame there for sure) even so, the man who sold us such a bad mechandise - is as much too and, for so much bloody money, he is as much to blame as anybody.
why ! people like that deserve to be in court !
( mind you he was actually -and in spite of two dozen or so directorships - managed to persuade a jury as apparently naive as some of you lot , that he 'could hardly read or write' and, that he was not guilty)
What is this anyway - the Harry Redknapp appreciation society ?
the guys TWIT! --- end of (misspelt)
Some of you will be saying next, Freddy Flinttoff should not have been banned for driving
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 20:52:46 GMT
Under those circumstance, The neighbour cant teake too much blame in the cas eof this neighbour - having a reputation for doing stuff like that for years ? what a truly naiive world it really is Tony Pulis knows Rednapp better than most. Are you saying he didn't have the nous/intuition to see through him? Or was he so fixated on Crouch/Palacios that his judgement was clouded to the point that even Peter Coates questioned the deal? Are you saying that Rednapp knew Palacios was unfit despite a medical at Stoke saying different? Tony what are you saying???
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 20:57:18 GMT
We will just have to beg to differ on this one - Yes the club and Pulis were to blame - But Redknapp was - and remains a complete and utter shyster
for selling us a 'basket case' for eight million quid
anyone decent would lose sleep - I bet he went to bed laughing his head off
Me I dont forget stuff like that
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 29, 2014 21:36:01 GMT
We will just have to beg to differ on this one - Yes the club and Pulis were to blame - But Redknapp was - and remains a complete and utter shyster for selling us a 'basket case' for eight million quid anyone decent would lose sleep - I bet he went to bed laughing his head off Me I dont forget stuff like that So if someone comes in for him to take him off our hands Tone, are we honour bound to tell them they're signing a right lemon?
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 29, 2014 22:37:04 GMT
Yep Pulis's fault as well (read the op) - well suckered in by his supposed 'mate' though with friends like that - who needs enemies eh ? So Greenhoff - another example - your next door neighbour (and a drinking mate too by the way) sells you a broken lawnmower telling you 'its working be fine last time I looked' So of course, No blame attached at all, when you realise --- its broken and cant be repaired and - you got ripped off eh ? not a single thought to go around and tell him hes a cunter then ? mind numbing - yep Lawn mowers?? Neighbours??? Car salesmen??? Its a multi-million pound industry with managers/chairmen/CEO that earn more in a year than I will earn in my career. Do you honestly think anyone worries about screwing someone over for a few quid. TP had a boner for Palacios/Crouch and nothing was going to stop him, even Coates was uneasy about the deal. WP passed a medical and was deemed fit. Theres only on fella to blame and it ain't Rednapp. So the medic who deemed him fit was to blame then
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 29, 2014 22:58:05 GMT
I may be completely misremembering this, but...
I was under the impression that the Palacios deal was all sewn up a few weeks before deadline day - you may remember it dragging on and on for ages - but that we found out that Tottenham may have been looking to offload Crouch and tried to engage in a bit of clever transfer stuff. We knew that Tottenham were desperate to get Palacios off the wage bill and we were the only buyer, so we threatened to cancel the Palacios deal unless they accepted our bid for Crouch too. Palacios wasn't really a makeweight, but we did use him as a bargaining chip and we definitely did want him.
Unfortunately, we made a big mistake and signed a player who simply was no longer fit for purpose. Perhaps we were spurred on by the Demba Ba mess up. It's typical I suppose, you (quite reasonably) don't gamble on a player with a dodgy knee who goes on to be fully fit for several years, but then you gamble on another player with a dodgy knee and he proves to be finished.
Oh, and whichever poster above said that the deal cost TP his job is absolutely right, along with the sale of the Great Man 12 months later.
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