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Post by warringtonstokie on Aug 24, 2014 18:32:12 GMT
Where do people think the gap in the side is? For me it's central midfield as Whelan, Nzonzi and Sidwell were extremely poor today and were on completely separate wavelengths to Bojan, Arnie, Diouf etc. Its all well and good having the array of attacking talent we have but with no midfield service it's useless. Thoughts?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2014 18:33:39 GMT
Right back, we have 4 shit ones.
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Post by j3st3r on Aug 24, 2014 18:34:38 GMT
We just need those we've got to start playing well together
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 24, 2014 18:34:48 GMT
Sell some dead wood. I'd be amazed if any more 'first teamers' are signed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 18:35:04 GMT
Solid centre back that can play football.
Driving midfielder.
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 24, 2014 18:35:39 GMT
Centre-forward, but I suspect we've run out of wriggle room on the wage front.
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 24, 2014 18:35:36 GMT
priority must be to cut our wage bill i would have thought , we dont need any more new faces
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 24, 2014 18:36:45 GMT
We need a DMF that can pass a ball forwards as well as backwards and sideways.
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 24, 2014 18:37:42 GMT
We just need those we've got to start playing well together Agreed but a Stambouli type, if not the man himself would be useful. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 24, 2014 18:41:38 GMT
We definately need a CM who can take the ball forward and a CB if Huth isn't fit enough to last the season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 18:43:45 GMT
Sell some dead wood. I'd be amazed if any more 'first teamers' are signed. This. Get rid of fringe players, loan a couple of youths, and go for it with the team we had. We can't buy our way out of this, we need to let the side settle. |
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 24, 2014 18:44:17 GMT
We definately need a CM who can take the ball forward and a CB if Huth isn't fit enough to last the season. we bought sidwell for this purpose , as well as ireland |
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 24, 2014 18:44:39 GMT
Genuinely can't see anyone else coming in.
And the only 'name' I can see going is Walters.
He hasn't entered the field of play yet during 2 God awful displays - with Moses not in the reckoning.
Certainly hope Cameron doesn't go.
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Post by march4 on Aug 24, 2014 18:48:01 GMT
Whelan was absolutely outstanding today. He broke up attack after attack and drove forwards to force the sending off. The 5 minutes of chaos after he went off showed how vital he is to us. Once Glenn had forced Hull to 10 men, he then ensured we dominated possession. After he had gone off, we were lucky to keep the ball.
Sidwell had an excellent debut. He covered well and competed for the ball.
The problems today were Arnie, N'Zonzi and particularly the woeful Bojan.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 24, 2014 18:51:50 GMT
Whelan was absolutely outstanding today. He broke up attack after attack and drove forwards to force the sending off. The 5 minutes of chaos after he went off showed how vital he is to us. Once Glenn had forced Hull to 10 men, he then ensured we dominated possession. After he had gone off, we were lucky to keep the ball. Sidwell had an excellent debut. He covered well and competed for the ball. The problems today were Arnie, N'Zonzi and particularly the woeful Bojan. Huh. Bojan was excellent second half he was the only creative player we had bar Adam. Granted Arnie was awful today. He needs to get his arse in gear. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 24, 2014 19:20:07 GMT
Whelan was absolutely outstanding today. He broke up attack after attack and drove forwards to force the sending off. The 5 minutes of chaos after he went off showed how vital he is to us. Once Glenn had forced Hull to 10 men, he then ensured we dominated possession. After he had gone off, we were lucky to keep the ball. Sidwell had an excellent debut. He covered well and competed for the ball. The problems today were Arnie, N'Zonzi and particularly the woeful Bojan. I'm sorry March but that is complete bullshit! Glenn was awful today and other than getting Chester sent off did nothing but give the ball away and pass to thin air! Agree with Nzonzi, he slowed the pace down to snail pace, passed only side to side and backwards. Bojan played some good balls and spread the ball well, he will come good! |
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Post by Davef on Aug 24, 2014 19:23:56 GMT
Whelan was absolutely outstanding today. He broke up attack after attack and drove forwards to force the sending off. The 5 minutes of chaos after he went off showed how vital he is to us. Once Glenn had forced Hull to 10 men, he then ensured we dominated possession. After he had gone off, we were lucky to keep the ball. Sidwell had an excellent debut. He covered well and competed for the ball. The problems today were Arnie, N'Zonzi and particularly the woeful Bojan. You've got it in for Bojan then? There's a surprise. |
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 24, 2014 19:25:05 GMT
Whelan was absolutely outstanding today. He broke up attack after attack and drove forwards to force the sending off. The 5 minutes of chaos after he went off showed how vital he is to us. Once Glenn had forced Hull to 10 men, he then ensured we dominated possession. After he had gone off, we were lucky to keep the ball. Sidwell had an excellent debut. He covered well and competed for the ball. The problems today were Arnie, N'Zonzi and particularly the woeful Bojan. I'm sorry March but that is complete bullshit! Glenn was awful today and other than getting Chester sent off did nothing but give the ball away and pass to thin air! Agree with Nzonzi, he slowed the pace down to snail pace, passed only side to side and backwards. Bojan played some good balls and spread the ball well, he will come good! I just saw the match, Glenn was awful but he wasn't alone thats for feckin sure! God that was hard to watch after the red card. Anti - climactic to say the least! How Wilson is still starting for us instead of Muniesa is mindboggling. Still not convinced of Bardsley and the midfield looks switched off and lazy. No off the ball movement and narrow versus 10 men! Christ alive where's the urgency in that side... |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 24, 2014 19:28:30 GMT
Whelan was absolutely outstanding today. He broke up attack after attack and drove forwards to force the sending off. The 5 minutes of chaos after he went off showed how vital he is to us. Once Glenn had forced Hull to 10 men, he then ensured we dominated possession. After he had gone off, we were lucky to keep the ball. Sidwell had an excellent debut. He covered well and competed for the ball. The problems today were Arnie, N'Zonzi and particularly the woeful Bojan. Maybe my senses are scrambled after the 426 miles round trip but my opinion is that Whelan and Sidwell were at the heart of our problems, both moved the ball far too slowly, ailed to get close to a pedestrian Hull midfield and regualrly had too many touches. Neither is capable of playing a long direct pass. N'Zonzi did threaten mor ebut his technique limits his ability to pass long or shoot. Contrast this with Bojan who played on the half term always looked forward and played the ball early when it was on, our goal and best chances all came when he was involved. Only when Charlie came on did we have someone capable of mixing the passing up and driving forward from deep. Teams are clealry going to set up like Villa and hull and try and play us on the break, making us pass the ball through them. This means we need another mobile central defensive midfielder so we can play Bojan or Adam in the 3 in midfield. Ireland will nto be effective if we are doingt he attacking, he is another player most effective on the break |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 18:29:34 GMT
Shotton's gone on loan for the season.
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Post by hatchett on Aug 25, 2014 19:15:30 GMT
Right back, we have 4 shit ones. Agree |
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 27, 2015 15:35:33 GMT
Just thought I'd resurrect this stream from last year to see how different things are.
"Not a lot"!!!
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Post by neddy on Aug 27, 2015 15:44:10 GMT
It seems to me with it being so quiet on the rumour and ITK front we have indeed perhaps finished for the window?
Yarmolenko appears to have gone now with no real news of it happening and there are again no real rumours on Ryan fill ins or midfield anchors? So I really think we are done now and it would be someone having a major change of heart that may trigger us going back in? If that is the case it is now down to Les to find his best combinations in the next few months with hopefully Bojan making the starting 11 by say October?
That said I do envisage a couple of outgoings and likely to be Tex, SJW or Wingie?
Ned.
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Post by meirparkpotter on Aug 28, 2015 6:26:32 GMT
For me as things stand, (and it's an almost can't believe I can actually say this moment) Affelay and van Ginkel can't be in the same side. We need to find who's more capable in a deeper role and who is more competent at bringing the ball out from the back and linking up play in the midfield. For now Ireland has his place as in the hole and it's Bojan's to lose when he returns... So who partners Glenn? Affelay, MvG, or Cameron even?! I'd like to see a left back brought in, though not a priority as we could play Johnson at LB but then we revert to Bardsley at RB. For me we're a midfielder, a full back and center half away from being a top side!
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