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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 18, 2014 10:02:21 GMT
Who do you think is best for our current system and playing style? Looking at the Hull vs Stoke thread, there seems to be an agreement on most of the personnel, but the centre forward role seems key to me.
Hughes is obviously keen to play Diouf, but a few have suggested Odemwingie or Crouch. Who would bring Bojan into play best? I haven't seen enough of Diouf to know his strengths, but I am pretty sure Crouch and Bojan could "click".
My problem with Crouch is his lack of pace, but he holds the ball up well and links play. He needs quick players around him though.
Who is the man for the job?
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Post by stokiejohn on Aug 18, 2014 10:11:57 GMT
Crouch imo. Saturday immediately got better on his arrival ( which if done earlier could well have seen us get back in it ?)
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 18, 2014 10:14:56 GMT
I reckon Diouf will be a better "away" player, when teams are attacking us with a higher defensive line we can really bang out counters with Diouf's pace.
At home I'd play Crouch with Bojan behind, running into space and feeding off Crouchie's layoffs.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 18, 2014 15:11:58 GMT
I reckon Diouf will be a better "away" player, when teams are attacking us with a higher defensive line we can really bang out counters with Diouf's pace. At home I'd play Crouch with Bojan behind, running into space and feeding off Crouchie's layoffs. I could see that working. Hope you are right about Diouf, too. Maybe him and Wingie will hit it off? |
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 18, 2014 15:17:40 GMT
Diouf but it is impossible to lead without others following. Same old problem, would like to see us play Bojan just behind him and two of Odem/Moses/Arne sticking to winger type roles. To do that we need stronger than Ireland in midfield.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 18, 2014 15:20:47 GMT
Bojan.
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Post by thestatusquo on Aug 18, 2014 15:22:49 GMT
Crouch. There was an immediate difference when he came on.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 18, 2014 15:26:37 GMT
Crouch. There was an immediate difference when he came on. This. ^^^ |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2014 15:27:06 GMT
Diouf.
Why we didn't play just one long ball to him or a ball over the top for him to run on to I just don't know.
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Post by roberthuth4 on Aug 18, 2014 15:30:49 GMT
Crouch. Diouf is fucking awful!
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Post by thestatusquo on Aug 18, 2014 15:31:09 GMT
Diouf. Why we didn't play just one long ball to him or a ball over the top for him to run on to I just don't know. I think we tried a couple of times Bayern but they sat pretty deep and it was cut out. He did get played in on our right on one occasion but then ran it out of play. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2014 15:44:05 GMT
Diouf. Why we didn't play just one long ball to him or a ball over the top for him to run on to I just don't know. I think we tried a couple of times Bayern but they sat pretty deep and it was cut out. He did get played in on our right on one occasion but then ran it out of play. That was about the only time. He made some great runs but never got it. Then Crouch comes on and we go long ball, which is completely right but we'd gone from overly pissing about with it at the back to hitting him as and when. The tactics were just messed up on Saturday and we didn't use Diouf correctly at all. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 18, 2014 15:55:20 GMT
Bit of a u-turn for me, but until Diouf has settled in and the rest understand the kind of balls he wants played through I think it would have to be Crouch going off the Villa game.
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Post by rambob on Aug 18, 2014 16:01:22 GMT
Impossible to know right now
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Post by thestatusquo on Aug 18, 2014 16:11:43 GMT
I think we tried a couple of times Bayern but they sat pretty deep and it was cut out. He did get played in on our right on one occasion but then ran it out of play. That was about the only time. He made some great runs but never got it. Then Crouch comes on and we go long ball, which is completely right but we'd gone from overly pissing about with it at the back to hitting him as and when. The tactics were just messed up on Saturday and we didn't use Diouf correctly at all. I wouldn't disagree with that Bayern but AV had done there homework to cut that ball out. Tactically they got it spot on. We needed to make changes much earlier than we did. |
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Post by Bombus on Aug 18, 2014 16:12:32 GMT
Impossible to know right now Sense |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2014 16:13:58 GMT
That was about the only time. He made some great runs but never got it. Then Crouch comes on and we go long ball, which is completely right but we'd gone from overly pissing about with it at the back to hitting him as and when. The tactics were just messed up on Saturday and we didn't use Diouf correctly at all. I wouldn't disagree with that Bayern but AV had done there homework to cut that ball out. Tactically they got it spot on. We needed to make changes much earlier than we did. I don't think they did tbh, we barely played it long when Diouf was on the pitch, it was mainly sidewards, slow nonsense. Agree that we needed to change, hoofing to Diouf would have been a good start though. |
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Post by silverdollar on Aug 18, 2014 16:37:18 GMT
Look! Hughes has put his faith in Diouf so get used to it. The player has not done anything wrong. He has scored in the friendlies and has played in one league game. When Crouch came on Saturday the game was over as we became so predictable once more. Once again we saw the thirty and forty yard ball in the air. Why on earth do people think we started looking better.
For me it would be much better to have Odemwinge on the bench!
It struck me on Saturday that as good as we might be on the bench that we couldn't make a substitution without weakening the team and having to change the formation.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 18, 2014 16:41:00 GMT
Is it fact that we started playing long balls when crouch came on make some think we were 'better'?
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Post by Gods on Aug 18, 2014 16:59:59 GMT
Crouch. Diouf is fucking awful! I'm starting to gain the sense that you are not a fan  |
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Post by ParaPsych on Aug 18, 2014 17:00:19 GMT
I suspect Diouf will show his worth in the away games where we are counter attacking.
Horses for courses this season.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 18, 2014 17:03:30 GMT
Diouf.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 18, 2014 17:05:20 GMT
Mame mame diouf (as most of the stoke fans were signing around me).
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Post by Gods on Aug 18, 2014 17:09:49 GMT
Folks may be right about Diouf Away and Crouch at home but its an about turn from the pre-season logic which was the opposite.
This was away from home when it is often backs to the wall you stick Crouch up front like some lone air traffic control tower and lump it up to as an out and hope it sticks. At home where we are cutting the opposition to ribbons we have the quicksilver Diouf to help the play flow rather than Crouch ambling about and holding the whole thing up.
We'll see...
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 18, 2014 17:12:52 GMT
Diouf will come good.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Aug 18, 2014 17:15:59 GMT
Diouf or Odemwingie
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Post by Gods on Aug 18, 2014 17:20:45 GMT
That's great information! |
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Post by roberthuth4 on Aug 18, 2014 17:21:03 GMT
I suspect Diouf will show his worth in the away games where we are counter attacking. Horses for courses this season. You will be suprised, hes wank! |
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Post by ParaPsych on Aug 18, 2014 17:22:52 GMT
I suspect Diouf will show his worth in the away games where we are counter attacking. Horses for courses this season. You will be suprised, hes wank! Ok. Thanks for your expert opinion. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 18, 2014 17:29:01 GMT
Crouch came on and we looked gash instead of utter gash, so i'm guessing Crouch is the best after the first game of the season. Yup he's better.
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