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Post by nott1 on Jul 23, 2014 22:07:26 GMT
Will he do a ton with me i love a cert me lol He's done 50 quid with someone else too! Easy money! He'll have to do a runner!
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Post by Lesalanos on Jul 23, 2014 22:19:51 GMT
In fairness the vast majority of their predictions show us staying up comfortably. With one exception none have us going down. No real story here.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 23, 2014 22:54:54 GMT
I don't know if this will have a bearing, but I actually forgot that Leicester had been promoted.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Jul 24, 2014 1:53:28 GMT
"They need to get some players in or they could finish worse than Derby" Remember that quote anyone?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 24, 2014 2:25:07 GMT
I suppose it all depends on how you come up and how long you've been away for. They relatively walked it last year in Championship terms, whereas our promotion came down to the final day. Throwing in the fact that Derby had just completed the most wretched campaign in the history of top flight football when we were promoted I suppose it was no wonder many of us thought we'd soon be back down among the deadmen.
That said, I think Leicester have got a bloody hard slog on, as most teams do in this division, a run of 10 bad games can make the next 20 irrelevant, everything gets punished that bit more in the top flight and a quarter of the games are against teams you'll do well to pick up 1 point from a season.
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Post by arnieforpresident on Jul 24, 2014 8:42:41 GMT
Let's just see how thins play out before ridiculing. I can't stand the arrogance of 'we've been here longer so automatically will be better' train of thought. Look at their current squad, if that's a top 10 team Pearson is the next Brian Clough
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 24, 2014 8:45:33 GMT
I'd like to see an equivalent thread from this board from when we were first promoted, just for comparison.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 24, 2014 8:48:04 GMT
I'd like to see an equivalent thread from this board from when we were first promoted, just for comparison. I would imagine most of us (I know I was) were saying we'd take 17th there and then if offered to us. Pretty grounded lot are Stokies (in general).
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Post by arnieforpresident on Jul 24, 2014 8:48:26 GMT
Leicester's first 7 games that is a tough start for any club I see 5 points if they are lucky. A poor start could set the tone for the rest of the season with their current squad. With that they could be in the bottom 3 by October
16/08/2014 15:00 Leicester City v Everton 23/08/2014 15:00 Chelsea v Leicester City 30/08/2014 15:00 Leicester City v Arsenal 13/09/2014 15:00 Stoke City v Leicester City 20/09/2014 15:00 Leicester City v Manchester United 27/09/2014 15:00 Crystal Palace v Leicester City 04/10/2014 15:00 Leicester City v Burnley
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Post by metalhead on Jul 24, 2014 8:55:16 GMT
They will be fine they have just signed the Argie from Brighton for 8 mil pmsl. 8 million for a 27 year old who has never played at the top level. Good value.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 24, 2014 8:56:04 GMT
I'd like to see an equivalent thread from this board from when we were first promoted, just for comparison. I would imagine most of us (I know I was) were saying we'd take 17th there and then if offered to us. Pretty grounded lot are Stokies (in general). I said it for the first three seasons probably! It's only since FA Cup Final and Europa that I've felt we need to push on.
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Post by pyrus on Jul 24, 2014 9:19:12 GMT
What have we learned about survival in the Premiership? At one point we were considered the template for survival until Swansea and Southampton got promoted.
Stoke's guide to first year survival in the premiership
1. Don't lose - a win is okay, but just don't lose. 36 draws is 36 points plus two games against West Brom = 42 points and your safe. 2. Play the percentage game - the majority of goals come from set pieces, just get good at doing set pieces and defending set pieces. 3. Big is beautiful - never compromise the size of a player for something as asinine as skill on the ball. 4. Turn your home ground into a fortress full of noisy fans. 5. You need one player to be the exception that proves the rule - Ricardo Fuller, have one player who is good enough to break all the rules and do what they want.
Now I know we were a stereotypical version of that method and I am sure that there are other formulas that work, but Leicester would be well advised to take heed. Generally coming into the Premiership thinking you can pass the ball about and win, like you did against Yeovil, when you play teams like Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester U/C, will get you lots of praise and a ticket straight back to the Championship within two years.
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Post by march4 on Jul 24, 2014 9:34:49 GMT
What have we learned about survival in the Premiership? At one point we were considered the template for survival until Swansea and Southampton got promoted. Stoke's guide to first year survival in the premiership 1. Don't lose - a win is okay, but just don't lose. 36 draws is 36 points plus two games against West Brom = 42 points and your safe. 2. Play the percentage game - the majority of goals come from set pieces, just get good at doing set pieces and defending set pieces. 3. Big is beautiful - never compromise the size of a player for something as asinine as skill on the ball. 4. Turn your home ground into a fortress full of noisy fans. 5. You need one player to be the exception that proves the rule - Ricardo Fuller, have one player who is good enough to break all the rules and do what they want. Now I know we were a stereotypical version of that method and I am sure that there are other formulas that work, but Leicester would be well advised to take heed. Generally coming into the Premiership thinking you can pass the ball about and win, like you did against Yeovil, when you play teams like Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester U/C, will get you lots of praise and a ticket straight back to the Championship within two years. Swansea and Soton haven't stayed up for as long as us and both look like they face a relegation battle this season.
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 24, 2014 9:56:47 GMT
I'd like to see an equivalent thread from this board from when we were first promoted, just for comparison. MD, we were a pretty pessimistic bunch about our chances of survival and I don't remember anyone spouting the superior bollox that Lesta fans are now. This is a repeat of the thread we had about these dicks in May anyway, so I will repeat what I said then. Leicester fans are some of the most deluded twats to ever dirty our doorstep. We played and narrowly lost to them at the Brit just after gaining promotion back to the Championship and they had just been relegated from the Prem. "One Nil in your cup final" and "You've only come to see the Lesta" were their two favourite songs that night. Juvenile, deluded wankers every last one of them! BM Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/230419/leicester-fans#ixzz38NQK7IdD
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Post by metalhead on Jul 24, 2014 9:59:06 GMT
What have we learned about survival in the Premiership? At one point we were considered the template for survival until Swansea and Southampton got promoted. Stoke's guide to first year survival in the premiership 1. Don't lose - a win is okay, but just don't lose. 36 draws is 36 points plus two games against West Brom = 42 points and your safe. 2. Play the percentage game - the majority of goals come from set pieces, just get good at doing set pieces and defending set pieces. 3. Big is beautiful - never compromise the size of a player for something as asinine as skill on the ball. 4. Turn your home ground into a fortress full of noisy fans. 5. You need one player to be the exception that proves the rule - Ricardo Fuller, have one player who is good enough to break all the rules and do what they want. Now I know we were a stereotypical version of that method and I am sure that there are other formulas that work, but Leicester would be well advised to take heed. Generally coming into the Premiership thinking you can pass the ball about and win, like you did against Yeovil, when you play teams like Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester U/C, will get you lots of praise and a ticket straight back to the Championship within two years. Number 1 is the standard Tony Pulis rule aka "a point is better than no points, even if it's at the expense of trying to win" (e.g. look at Stoke vs Liverpool away, consistent draws). Number 2 only works if you have a good attack from set pieces. We had big strikers, big midfielders, and big defenders. We also had someone who could launch an absolute missile of a throw into the box. Number 3 again only works if you've built your team around that. If you stuck a huge player in Swansea, he'd probably find it hard. Number 4 is an obvious and we did it well. Palace did it well last year. Number 5 yep spot on.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jul 24, 2014 11:47:40 GMT
Can some just clarify if they're positive or negative towards us?
I want to know if they're deluded cunts who know nothing about football or well-grounded fans who clearly know their shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 11:54:25 GMT
Can some just clarify if they're positive or negative towards us? I want to know if they're deluded cunts who know nothing about football or well-grounded fans who clearly know their shit. I read on Twitter that the jug eared twat Lineker is doubting the ability of Bojan on a cold winters Tuesday night in Winter... He's a fucking jealous arsehole if ever there was one.
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Post by staffsvilla on Jul 24, 2014 12:08:48 GMT
love it how they have all written us off, oh how i'll laugh when they go down
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Jul 24, 2014 12:12:02 GMT
love it how they have all written us off, oh how i'll laugh when they go down Tbf it's not just them, sorry but I can see alot of your players being out injured after being nutted by Roy keane
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jul 24, 2014 12:20:07 GMT
Can some just clarify if they're positive or negative towards us? I want to know if they're deluded cunts who know nothing about football or well-grounded fans who clearly know their shit. I read on Twitter that the jug eared twat Lineker is doubting the ability of Bojan on a cold winters Tuesday night in Winter... He's a fucking jealous arsehole if ever there was one. What a prick. I'm never eating crisps again.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jul 24, 2014 12:22:10 GMT
I suspect part of the problem of over confidence stems from being away from the Premiere League for some time. It is all too easy to underestimate the difference in skill and pace. By the time they realise this it is too late for some teams as they have to wait for the January window to adjust. It is sensible to concentrate on not losing in the first year.Initially they are competing with those who finished 15 to 17 as those below were relegated, as well as competing with those who came up with them.
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Post by shawi on Jul 24, 2014 12:32:12 GMT
Should be a good awayday, take the train, tour the pubs, get 3 points, go home
Ta Duck
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Post by costkickaboagenawo on Jul 24, 2014 13:38:51 GMT
Oh no! Just realised, and forgive me if anyone has already commented on this. But are we going to be graced by the biggest WUM this side of Nagasaki...CovFox this season? I seem to remember him poking his snout into all sorts of stuff on here a while back. So if he does, give him a stiff ignoring to, he was/is just bitter!
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Post by costkickaboagenawo on Jul 24, 2014 13:41:02 GMT
Shit, the bugger has got to me before a ball is even kicked! Listen to me preaching! Some example that is! Sorry, I will crawl back to my box!
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Post by 2004 on Jul 24, 2014 13:42:40 GMT
love it how they have all written us off, oh how i'll laugh when they go down I think you will struggle but you will still finish above Leicester for sure.
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 24, 2014 14:04:54 GMT
I suspect part of the problem of over confidence stems from being away from the Premiere League for some time. It is all too easy to underestimate the difference in skill and pace. By the time they realise this it is too late for some teams as they have to wait for the January window to adjust. It is sensible to concentrate on not losing in the first year.Initially they are competing with those who finished 15 to 17 as those below were relegated, as well as competing with those who came up with them. We were away from the top flight for 23 long years and we didn't strut around like arrogant cocks saying we were going to finish top half in our first season up did we? So, mate I cannot agree with your logic, its down to Lesta having a higher proportion of deluded juvenile fuckwits following them than most clubs. If the league was all about that then they would be right there at the top along with Sunderland. BM
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Post by stokiejoe on Jul 24, 2014 14:29:13 GMT
I suspect part of the problem of over confidence stems from being away from the Premiere League for some time. It is all too easy to underestimate the difference in skill and pace. By the time they realise this it is too late for some teams as they have to wait for the January window to adjust. It is sensible to concentrate on not losing in the first year.Initially they are competing with those who finished 15 to 17 as those below were relegated, as well as competing with those who came up with them. We were away from the top flight for 23 long years and we didn't strut around like arrogant cocks saying we were going to finish top half in our first season up did we? So, mate I cannot agree with your logic, its down to Lesta having a higher proportion of deluded juvenile fuckwits following them than most clubs. If the league was all about that then they would be right there at the top along with Sunderland. BM I don't disagree with your view of Leicester fans, my logic was based on you don't know what you don't know. Just because we weren't silly about it and recognised potential problems, doesn't stop others being stupid and believing the move up will be easy.
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Post by The Red and White Baron on Jul 24, 2014 16:55:46 GMT
Let's just see how thins play out before ridiculing. I can't stand the arrogance of 'we've been here longer so automatically will be better' train of thought. They have the arrogance to think they'll walk it/us so why not? I remember a lot of us saying that we'd just enjoy the season for what it was if we went straight back down, as luck would have it, we did alright! So because other fans are arrogant and pretentious we should be too? No thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 7:50:04 GMT
They have the arrogance to think they'll walk it/us so why not? I remember a lot of us saying that we'd just enjoy the season for what it was if we went straight back down, as luck would have it, we did alright! So because other fans are arrogant and pretentious we should be too? No thanks. Too late.
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Post by y2j on Jul 26, 2014 7:57:32 GMT
In my view it's a good thing. We don't want everyone expecting us to do well, it just increases the pressure on us.
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