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Post by onionman on Jul 2, 2014 15:30:03 GMT
It's hardly a crime to be disappointed with England's self-appointed superstars failing to win a single match, and at the same time thinking it's heroic for a low profile, comparatively limited player like Geoff Cameron to play his part in a team of underdogs nearly reaching the quarter-final. Mick, at one point fairly recently you claimed that Stoke fans were simply complaining about England because they're not happy unless they've got something to be miserable about. So yes, you did accuse them of being miserable. Today, you patronised a guy for saying Stoke's boys were heroes in the World Cup. At worst, he could be accused of getting a little carried away - but you could also easily argue that Wingie, Bego and Geoff's achievements this summer have been heroic, compared to what Stoke players normally achieve during a World Cup summer. He didn't deserve to have his opinion dismissed as ludicrous. Who's miserable now eh? Stoke and how high profile they are or aren't (which is basically what determines Cameron's profile) is completely irrelevant.origi isn't exactly high profile yet he's making a name for himself this year and people are talking about the "Belgian origi" not "Origi the player from Lille" and therefore expecting every Lille fan to jump up and down and try to claim credit for it.this isn't about how they play for us, the WC has nothing to do with SCFC at all..that's the point i'm making really, no-one would be claiming their antics to be heroic id they DIDN'T play for Stoke. them being heroes on here is far more to do with the fact that they're Stoke players than anything else (hence the reason apparently ALL of them are heroes despite WP being absolute shit in the WC). i said some were miserable because they're not happy unless they are BEFORE the WC started....i think it's pretty fair to say that when people were slagging us off before a ball had even been kicked! Luke Shaw played for Southampton whilst at the WC (a team who finished just one place above us and like us are not a big team either). he also played in an international team that no-one with any kind of sense of perspective expected anything of this tournament yet he apparently is just an "overpaid wanker" whilst our players are "heroes" i have no problem with people bigging up "Our" players when it's justified but for the last few weeks they have not been "our" players they have been the players of their international teams. the personnel and style of those teams is completely different to ours and so they have fuck all to do with us whilst over there. Bego is one of the best keepers in the Prem but because he plays for a shit country he went out as early as the England players....that doesn't make him anymore of a hero than it does Joe Hart. Palacios was absolute crap and went out in the group stages so he's no different to anyone else that did yet they all get slagged off as shit and awful countries (and some even said a while back that those kind of countries shouldn't even be allowed in the tournament!).. Cameron DID play ok yesterday (and in all honesty i saw nothing that singled him out from any of the other US players last night, in fact there were players last night that were far better than he was). all i said from the start is that they DID do ok but absolutely nothing special whatsoever so it's inconsistent that some dismiss some players as overpaid wankers for certain sides yet call others heroes despite them achieving the same thing and despite the fact that the quality of the international teams they represent being roughly the same at the moment. it's fairly straightforward and clear really, the problem is that far too many people seem to think that ANYTHING a player who is contracted to Stoke does (even if not in any way related to SCFC as in this WC) must be amazing and superb and far better than what other players of the same calibre achieve and if anyone disagrees or doesn't go as far in his praise then he's apparently slagging him off and saying he has no pride in the players in the red and white. it's hypocritical, inconsistent and utter garbage to just label people with that tag simply because they want to keep at least a modicum of perspective and realism. by the way, when did the England team appoint themselves as superstars exactly??? they get paid what clubs are willing to pay them (not their fault blame the clubs) and become household names because of the shitty media celebrity culture we have over here (not their fault, blame the media). i don't remember any of them coming out saying we should win it or that our players are better than anyone else at all.....hardly self-appointed superstars in any way, simply the fault of and built up by the same media that months ago were telling us how poor our squad looked and the idiots that swallow it all up. A lot of truth in that post, mate, but a few things I disagree with: The media (and therefore by connection the English public) may be to blame for overhyping the England players, but many of the players themselves embrace and encourage their celebrity status and actively seek the added fame and fortune that comes with. You could say you don't blame them for that, but I'd argue they must also accept the added expectation level this fame brings with it. Some English fans may have unfair expectations, but the guy you ranted at this morning said nothing about Luke Shaw or anyone else being an overpaid wanker. So why call him ludicrous for saying Bego, Cameron and Wingie are heroes? Bego played a key part in the first Bosnia team to ever qualify for a World Cup, and then gave a good account of himself at the tournament. Of course that's going to be seen as more heroic than the guy who played in goal for an established footballing nation that produced officially its worst World Cup performance of all time. Finally, the main thrust of my initial post, that you seem to revel in pointing the finger at others for supposedly being miserable, while at exactly the same time coming across as an extremely miserable bastard yourself, is pretty much inarguable.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Jul 2, 2014 15:34:08 GMT
I thought that England played reasonably well If Woy had picked Shawcross and Terry we would have gone through - unfortunately when the defenders proved that they were wank Woy had no-one other than the even more wank ManU players to turn to I enjoyed watching the Stoke players who did quite well
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 2, 2014 15:50:06 GMT
MickMillsLC - I know I have a well deserved reputation for pedantry but you are starting to make me look like an amateur pedant! When I was a kid a girl who lived about 5 doors away from me in Roe Lane was a good swimmer and got called up for England a few times. She wasn't one of the greats but she was our neighbour and the whole street crowded round our TV (first in the road) when her swim was televised and she was greeted like a heroine when she came home. A cousin of mine was good at music (God knows where he got the talent from - not from my side of the family that's for sure) and the choir he conducted won an International competiton in the USA. He was greeted like a hero when he came home and we had a party for him. Every time a Stoke player pulls on an International shirt he's a hero to me and I hope he has a good game - unless he's playing against England. That's just how some of us see our football. The club is, in one sense, part of our extended family. So it is natural that any player who gets to a World Cup and puts in a decent shift and doesn't disgrace themselves is a hero to those of us who feel that way. They aren't heroes in the sense that those who fight battles and win wars or lose their lives. But, in the context of Stoke City they are heroes Don't take everything to do with football so literally. When anyone at a Stoke game sings the song which finishes with the words "they're by far the greatest team the world has ever seen" - do you turn round and bellow at them, "no they aren't, Real Madrid are better because they have won more European trophies" ??? Not everything to do with football is meant to be taken in the strictest literal sense - the dictionary definition is allowed to be ignored. My garden shed is not always bigger than this - but at a match, as far as I'm concerned, if I sing it - then it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 15:59:39 GMT
Stoke and how high profile they are or aren't (which is basically what determines Cameron's profile) is completely irrelevant.origi isn't exactly high profile yet he's making a name for himself this year and people are talking about the "Belgian origi" not "Origi the player from Lille" and therefore expecting every Lille fan to jump up and down and try to claim credit for it.this isn't about how they play for us, the WC has nothing to do with SCFC at all..that's the point i'm making really, no-one would be claiming their antics to be heroic id they DIDN'T play for Stoke. them being heroes on here is far more to do with the fact that they're Stoke players than anything else (hence the reason apparently ALL of them are heroes despite WP being absolute shit in the WC). i said some were miserable because they're not happy unless they are BEFORE the WC started....i think it's pretty fair to say that when people were slagging us off before a ball had even been kicked! Luke Shaw played for Southampton whilst at the WC (a team who finished just one place above us and like us are not a big team either). he also played in an international team that no-one with any kind of sense of perspective expected anything of this tournament yet he apparently is just an "overpaid wanker" whilst our players are "heroes" i have no problem with people bigging up "Our" players when it's justified but for the last few weeks they have not been "our" players they have been the players of their international teams. the personnel and style of those teams is completely different to ours and so they have fuck all to do with us whilst over there. Bego is one of the best keepers in the Prem but because he plays for a shit country he went out as early as the England players....that doesn't make him anymore of a hero than it does Joe Hart. Palacios was absolute crap and went out in the group stages so he's no different to anyone else that did yet they all get slagged off as shit and awful countries (and some even said a while back that those kind of countries shouldn't even be allowed in the tournament!).. Cameron DID play ok yesterday (and in all honesty i saw nothing that singled him out from any of the other US players last night, in fact there were players last night that were far better than he was). all i said from the start is that they DID do ok but absolutely nothing special whatsoever so it's inconsistent that some dismiss some players as overpaid wankers for certain sides yet call others heroes despite them achieving the same thing and despite the fact that the quality of the international teams they represent being roughly the same at the moment. it's fairly straightforward and clear really, the problem is that far too many people seem to think that ANYTHING a player who is contracted to Stoke does (even if not in any way related to SCFC as in this WC) must be amazing and superb and far better than what other players of the same calibre achieve and if anyone disagrees or doesn't go as far in his praise then he's apparently slagging him off and saying he has no pride in the players in the red and white. it's hypocritical, inconsistent and utter garbage to just label people with that tag simply because they want to keep at least a modicum of perspective and realism. by the way, when did the England team appoint themselves as superstars exactly??? they get paid what clubs are willing to pay them (not their fault blame the clubs) and become household names because of the shitty media celebrity culture we have over here (not their fault, blame the media). i don't remember any of them coming out saying we should win it or that our players are better than anyone else at all.....hardly self-appointed superstars in any way, simply the fault of and built up by the same media that months ago were telling us how poor our squad looked and the idiots that swallow it all up. A lot of truth in that post, mate, but a few things I disagree with: The media (and therefore by connection the English public) may be to blame for overhyping the England players, but many of the players themselves embrace and encourage their celebrity status and actively seek the added fame and fortune that comes with. You could say you don't blame them for that, but I'd argue they must also accept the added expectation level this fame brings with it. Some English fans may have unfair expectations, but the guy you ranted at this morning said nothing about Luke Shaw or anyone else being an overpaid wanker. So why call him ludicrous for saying Bego, Cameron and Wingie are heroes? Bego played a key part in the first Bosnia team to ever qualify for a World Cup, and then gave a good account of himself at the tournament. Of course that's going to be seen as more heroic than the guy who played in goal for an established footballing nation that produced officially its worst World Cup performance of all time. Finally, the main thrust of my initial post, that you seem to revel in pointing the finger at others for supposedly being miserable, while at exactly the same time coming across as an extremely miserable bastard yourself, is pretty much inarguable. kinda sums exactly the point i've been trying to make someone makes a statement that's way over the top and that's fine someone else simply says it's OTT (which is all i did at the start) and because i'm being realistic i'm now a miserable bastard who slags off Stoke players and doesn't feel proud of them as i said earlier, complete Association Fallacy at it's best! the same kind of logic The Sun uses constantly and people wonder why they get called deluded! if you want to go off in life using hyperbole constantly and jizzing over everything that's even tenuously related to Stoke (even though this WC has NOTHING to do with Stoke) then feel free mate. however, it doesn't automatically make someone a miserable bastard simply for having a sense of realism though and not doing all that.i'd be a miserable bastard if i said they were all shit and were embarrassed to be connected with them but i'm pretty sure i haven't even got close to doing any of that once! it also doesn't mean i'm slagging the players off or saying i'm not proud of them being Stoke players...it's just a shame that some on here and so fucking blinkered they can't see that there are colours in the spectrum other than black and white. amazing how because i was excited before the World Cup i was a "deluded fuckwit" for being too happy and excited yet when i say some people are merely over-egging things slightly i'm now a "Miserable bastard". i prefer to stick with the "Look at life in a realistic way rather than looking like a deluded tool by thinking the whole world is rosy if it's painted with red and white stripes" philosophy myself. also, by your logic re: players and their celebrity status......i presume that, given he's the most celebrity obsessed footballer on the planet, we've now decided that Ronaldo is an overhyped and overpaid wanker who's absolutely shit as well now given that Portugal went out at the same stage as England yeah? nah of course not, that's just a label saved for English players who apparently SHOULD be knocking teams out left, right and centre. after all, they scraped through a group last time by winning one match against the might of Algeria and are currently full of aged stars well past their best and a group of kids with a handful of caps between them!!! they don't create any expectation mate...the media and idiots (who usually don't even watch the game apart from once every 4 years when the WC comes along) who still believe we have some god given right to succeed at this sport create the expectation.no-one else! the fame and celebrity they have as players is down to the pathetic Kardashian, Geordie Shore, Big Brother celebrity obsessed culture we have in this country nowadays. those that follow football and see the current state of the english squad didn't seem to have any expectations of them at all and realised we probably did about as well as expected from the start. people went mad saying how we should beat Costa Rica easily whilst conveniently forgetting that the same Costa Rica side beat both Italy and Uruguay before playing us....but just ignore that, it's costa rica and they're shit because....well, just because they're only a little country and they weren't good historically so we'll just ignore the fact that football nowadays is a completely different sport to what it used to be and the fact that most of the players of these shitty little tinpot countries actually play in the top leagues around europe nowadays. it's simple really, the papers are there for people that don't watch the game regularly to give them some insight...those that do watch it know it's all bollocks so make up their own minds and ignore the crappy hype they build up. if the hype surrounding the players was based no merit or on what the players do/say in public (when they court the media according to you) then no-one would have been in any way surprised when we went out when we did. really is that simple. if it was a team comprised of Owen, Scholes, Beckham, Cole, Ferdinand, Lampard etc, in their prime then fair enough but it's not like that anymore...we're the same as countries like Portugal i.e. very little fact to base any kind of hype on anymore and need to rebuild totally and at the moment are mediocre at best...it's not the players' fault that this terrible English arrogance of world domination being a given exists!
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Post by onionman on Jul 2, 2014 16:55:48 GMT
A lot of truth in that post, mate, but a few things I disagree with: The media (and therefore by connection the English public) may be to blame for overhyping the England players, but many of the players themselves embrace and encourage their celebrity status and actively seek the added fame and fortune that comes with. You could say you don't blame them for that, but I'd argue they must also accept the added expectation level this fame brings with it. Some English fans may have unfair expectations, but the guy you ranted at this morning said nothing about Luke Shaw or anyone else being an overpaid wanker. So why call him ludicrous for saying Bego, Cameron and Wingie are heroes? Bego played a key part in the first Bosnia team to ever qualify for a World Cup, and then gave a good account of himself at the tournament. Of course that's going to be seen as more heroic than the guy who played in goal for an established footballing nation that produced officially its worst World Cup performance of all time. Finally, the main thrust of my initial post, that you seem to revel in pointing the finger at others for supposedly being miserable, while at exactly the same time coming across as an extremely miserable bastard yourself, is pretty much inarguable. kinda sums exactly the point i've been trying to make someone makes a statement that's way over the top and that's fine someone else simply says it's OTT (which is all i did at the start) and because i'm being realistic i'm now a miserable bastard who slags off Stoke players and doesn't feel proud of them as i said earlier, complete Association Fallacy at it's best! the same kind of logic The Sun uses constantly and people wonder why they get called deluded! if you want to go off in life using hyperbole constantly and jizzing over everything that's even tenuously related to Stoke (even though this WC has NOTHING to do with Stoke) then feel free mate. however, it doesn't automatically make someone a miserable bastard simply for having a sense of realism though and not doing all that.i'd be a miserable bastard if i said they were all shit and were embarrassed to be connected with them but i'm pretty sure i haven't even got close to doing any of that once! it also doesn't mean i'm slagging the players off or saying i'm not proud of them being Stoke players...it's just a shame that some on here and so fucking blinkered they can't see that there are colours in the spectrum other than black and white. amazing how because i was excited before the World Cup i was a "deluded fuckwit" for being too happy and excited yet when i say some people are merely over-egging things slightly i'm now a "Miserable bastard". i prefer to stick with the "Look at life in a realistic way rather than looking like a deluded tool by thinking the whole world is rosy if it's painted with red and white stripes" philosophy myself. also, by your logic re: players and their celebrity status......i presume that, given he's the most celebrity obsessed footballer on the planet, we've now decided that Ronaldo is an overhyped and overpaid wanker who's absolutely shit as well now given that Portugal went out at the same stage as England yeah? nah of course not, that's just a label saved for English players who apparently SHOULD be knocking teams out left, right and centre. after all, they scraped through a group last time by winning one match against the might of Algeria and are currently full of aged stars well past their best and a group of kids with a handful of caps between them!!! they don't create any expectation mate...the media and idiots (who usually don't even watch the game apart from once every 4 years when the WC comes along) who still believe we have some god given right to succeed at this sport create the expectation.no-one else! the fame and celebrity they have as players is down to the pathetic Kardashian, Geordie Shore, Big Brother celebrity obsessed culture we have in this country nowadays. those that follow football and see the current state of the english squad didn't seem to have any expectations of them at all and realised we probably did about as well as expected from the start. people went mad saying how we should beat Costa Rica easily whilst conveniently forgetting that the same Costa Rica side beat both Italy and Uruguay before playing us....but just ignore that, it's costa rica and they're shit because....well, just because they're only a little country and they weren't good historically so we'll just ignore the fact that football nowadays is a completely different sport to what it used to be and the fact that most of the players of these shitty little tinpot countries actually play in the top leagues around europe nowadays. it's simple really, the papers are there for people that don't watch the game regularly to give them some insight...those that do watch it know it's all bollocks so make up their own minds and ignore the crappy hype they build up. if the hype surrounding the players was based no merit or on what the players do/say in public (when they court the media according to you) then no-one would have been in any way surprised when we went out when we did. really is that simple. if it was a team comprised of Owen, Scholes, Beckham, Cole, Ferdinand, Lampard etc, in their prime then fair enough but it's not like that anymore...we're the same as countries like Portugal i.e. very little fact to base any kind of hype on anymore and need to rebuild totally and at the moment are mediocre at best...it's not the players' fault that this terrible English arrogance of world domination being a given exists! I could spend half an hour responding to the many points in this post, ranging from the reasonable opinions I happen to disagree with, to the plain and simple daft, but I suspect I'll get sacked if I don't get some work done soon. Needless to say if you'd actually said the opening post was "merely overegging it slightly" instead of launching into a tirade about how ludicrous you thought it was, we could all have saved a lot of time.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 2, 2014 17:37:10 GMT
They are all Stoke City heroes who represented our club for their country and got us lots of mentions. Anyone who doesn't agree is anti Stoke! Miserable bastards!
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Post by onionman on Jul 2, 2014 17:39:49 GMT
MickMillsLC - I know I have a well deserved reputation for pedantry but you are starting to make me look like an amateur pedant! When I was a kid a girl who lived about 5 doors away from me in Roe Lane was a good swimmer and got called up for England a few times. She wasn't one of the greats but she was our neighbour and the whole street crowded round our TV (first in the road) when her swim was televised and she was greeted like a heroine when she came home. A cousin of mine was good at music (God knows where he got the talent from - not from my side of the family that's for sure) and the choir he conducted won an International competiton in the USA. He was greeted like a hero when he came home and we had a party for him. Every time a Stoke player pulls on an International shirt he's a hero to me and I hope he has a good game - unless he's playing against England. That's just how some of us see our football. The club is, in one sense, part of our extended family. So it is natural that any player who gets to a World Cup and puts in a decent shift and doesn't disgrace themselves is a hero to those of us who feel that way. They aren't heroes in the sense that those who fight battles and win wars or lose their lives. But, in the context of Stoke City they are heroes Don't take everything to do with football so literally. When anyone at a Stoke game sings the song which finishes with the words "they're by far the greatest team the world has ever seen" - do you turn round and bellow at them, "no they aren't, Real Madrid are better because they have won more European trophies" ??? Not everything to do with football is meant to be taken in the strictest literal sense - the dictionary definition is allowed to be ignored. My garden shed is not always bigger than this - but at a match, as far as I'm concerned, if I sing it - then it is. Your next door neighbour - the one who owns 3,000 chickens - I bet his garden shed actually is bigger this.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 2, 2014 17:45:45 GMT
Is it safe to come on now or are werrington and mickmillslovechild still shooting everyone down whom has a different opinion?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 2, 2014 18:17:33 GMT
MickMillsLC - I know I have a well deserved reputation for pedantry but you are starting to make me look like an amateur pedant! When I was a kid a girl who lived about 5 doors away from me in Roe Lane was a good swimmer and got called up for England a few times. She wasn't one of the greats but she was our neighbour and the whole street crowded round our TV (first in the road) when her swim was televised and she was greeted like a heroine when she came home. A cousin of mine was good at music (God knows where he got the talent from - not from my side of the family that's for sure) and the choir he conducted won an International competiton in the USA. He was greeted like a hero when he came home and we had a party for him. Every time a Stoke player pulls on an International shirt he's a hero to me and I hope he has a good game - unless he's playing against England. That's just how some of us see our football. The club is, in one sense, part of our extended family. So it is natural that any player who gets to a World Cup and puts in a decent shift and doesn't disgrace themselves is a hero to those of us who feel that way. They aren't heroes in the sense that those who fight battles and win wars or lose their lives. But, in the context of Stoke City they are heroes Don't take everything to do with football so literally. When anyone at a Stoke game sings the song which finishes with the words "they're by far the greatest team the world has ever seen" - do you turn round and bellow at them, "no they aren't, Real Madrid are better because they have won more European trophies" ??? Not everything to do with football is meant to be taken in the strictest literal sense - the dictionary definition is allowed to be ignored. My garden shed is not always bigger than this - but at a match, as far as I'm concerned, if I sing it - then it is. Your next door neighbour - the one who owns 3,000 chickens - I bet his garden shed actually is bigger this. It is an old cowshed and when he was wondering what to do with it as the farm no longer had cows he asked for suggestions. I suggested a half size indoor football pitch as its about the size of the Academy dome. Unfortunately his daughter suggested it would be good for chickens and her idea won.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 2, 2014 18:50:22 GMT
Your next door neighbour - the one who owns 3,000 chickens - I bet his garden shed actually is bigger this. It is an old cowshed and when he was wondering what to do with it as the farm no longer had cows he asked for suggestions. I suggested a half size indoor football pitch as its about the size of the Academy dome. Unfortunately his daughter suggested it would be good for chickens and her idea won. Does she look anything like Kyle Beckerman? A percentage score will be fine.
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Post by onionman on Jul 2, 2014 19:15:55 GMT
It is an old cowshed and when he was wondering what to do with it as the farm no longer had cows he asked for suggestions. I suggested a half size indoor football pitch as its about the size of the Academy dome. Unfortunately his daughter suggested it would be good for chickens and her idea won. Does she look anything like Kyle Beckerman? A percentage score will be fine. I think this is her:
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 2, 2014 19:20:44 GMT
Does she look anything like Kyle Beckerman? A percentage score will be fine. I think this is her: That isn't a bad likeness - but she has straight hair and no lip ring. She won the dog agility class in the U21 section of Crufts this year. That's her who had to be under 21 not the dog. Although the dog was also under 21 as it happens! EDIT - Deffo looks like one of the chickens - they get sent on their way to other homes (and to the pie factory) once they are over a year old as their egg laying frequency starts to tail off after a year.
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Post by onionman on Jul 2, 2014 19:27:18 GMT
I think this is her: That isn't a bad likeness - but she has straight hair. She won the dog agility class in the U21 section of Crufts this year. That's her who had to be under 21 not the dog. Although the dog was also under 21 as it happens! EDIT - Deffo looks like one of the chickens - they get sent on their way to other homes (and to the pie factory) once they are over a year old as their egg laying frequency starts to tail off after a year. I'm a big fan of chickens, and an equally big fan of pies. Really not sure when I stand on this one.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 2, 2014 19:29:18 GMT
That isn't a bad likeness - but she has straight hair. She won the dog agility class in the U21 section of Crufts this year. That's her who had to be under 21 not the dog. Although the dog was also under 21 as it happens! EDIT - Deffo looks like one of the chickens - they get sent on their way to other homes (and to the pie factory) once they are over a year old as their egg laying frequency starts to tail off after a year. I'm a big fan of chickens, and an equally big fan of pies. Really not sure when I stand on this one. You could do a Desperate Dan and stick to cow pies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 19:31:22 GMT
I can confirm that Brown hens are the most intelligent and lay more brown eggs too...I think.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 2, 2014 19:34:22 GMT
I can confirm that Brown hens are the most intelligent and lay more brown eggs too...I think. The brown hens they have at the farm next door are bred for their domesticity. They are ridiculously tame. I usually have to round up a few each evening and put them back over the electric fence so they can go into their barn for the night. The more adventurous ones come up to my garden to talk to my dogs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 19:39:15 GMT
I can confirm that Brown hens are the most intelligent and lay more brown eggs too...I think. The brown hens they have at the farm next door are bred for their domesticity. They are ridiculously tame. I usually have to round up a few each evening and put them back over the electric fence so they can go into their barn for the night. The more adventurous ones come up to my garden to talk to my dogs. Mine share the dogs basket by the radiator and use my labs as 'nests' .Tonight there's 3 in with the black bitch (that's not the wife btw)
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 2, 2014 19:41:51 GMT
I can confirm that Brown hens are the most intelligent and lay more brown eggs too...I think. The brown hens they have at the farm next door are bred for their domesticity. They are ridiculously tame. I usually have to round up a few each evening and put them back over the electric fence so they can go into their barn for the night. The more adventurous ones come up to my garden to talk to my dogs. you should introduce them to a bottle of good claret , root veg and a bouquet garni , LL
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Post by onionman on Jul 2, 2014 19:51:14 GMT
3,000 chickens living in a shed the size of a lower division football team's ground, drinking wine and talking to dogs.
This is exactly the kind of beautiful scenario Kyle Beckerman was dreaming of when he tied himself to that tree with his "Down With Tesco" placard.
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