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Post by craig67 on Jun 22, 2014 23:36:21 GMT
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Post by kristoff on Jun 22, 2014 23:37:16 GMT
Just discussing this in another thread, its a fucking joke |
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Post by Gods on Jun 22, 2014 23:53:28 GMT
Why should he feel any pressure at all to 'retire'?
No one ever used to do that. it is a another unwelcome new development.
You do your best for your club side and if the national manager comes knocking then great and if not then hey you tried.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 23, 2014 0:00:07 GMT
Exactly why Roy needs to go. Gerrards been a liability this World Cup.
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Post by craig67 on Jun 23, 2014 0:00:59 GMT
Why should he feel any pressure at all to 'retire'? No one ever used to do that. it is a another unwelcome new development. You do your best for your club side and if the national manager comes knocking then great and if not then hey you tried. And we wonder why we haven't done anything at the Euro's or World Cup in the last 18 years. We need to get rid of the deadwood-especially the one's who keep turning up and getting beat. I suppose you are happy with his performances at the WC?? |
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Post by britsabroad on Jun 23, 2014 0:39:39 GMT
No England manager has ever played Gerrard properly, and hes been one of the major reasons we've under performed for years.
That Roy basically comes out to say he'll still play him at 36 is staggering and unsurprising in equal measure.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 23, 2014 0:54:38 GMT
Experience is needed in the squad, even if they don't play, I'd be happy for him to still be picked for it.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 23, 2014 0:55:40 GMT
No England manager has ever played Gerrard properly, and hes been one of the major reasons we've under performed for years. That Roy basically comes out to say he'll still play him at 36 is staggering and unsurprising in equal measure. I think Woy is just making soundbites to appear as if he's been thinking about this for sometime when in fact England is his side hobby in all reality. Klinsman knows his squad, that joke of a manager Woy doesnt. Nobody can say Gerrard has been "utilised" well either... but neither has most of England's talent recently... |
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Post by onionman on Jun 23, 2014 0:57:51 GMT
They should give him a go alongside Lampard. Time to experiment, Roy.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 23, 2014 6:44:58 GMT
This is further proof that not only should Woy be sacked immediately, he should be locked up somewhere nice and secure, where there are no sharp implements.
The bloke is full on fucking ga ga mental.
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 23, 2014 6:51:18 GMT
Just discussing this in another thread, its a fucking joke Hey Krisoff, Are you Craig's dark alter-ego, cause you Avatars are quite similar!?! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 6:58:15 GMT
No England manager has ever played Gerrard properly, and hes been one of the major reasons we've under performed for years. That Roy basically comes out to say he'll still play him at 36 is staggering and unsurprising in equal measure. Roy has built the team around him this time and played him in the same position he plays at Liverpool, he's had every opportunity. I can see why he's not publicly slated Gerrard and told him to retire, but I don't think it matters either way as I expect Gerrard to retire from international football in a few weeks anyway to prolong his club career. If Hodgson is brave enough to move on from the golden generation and sorts out the defence then we'll have a decent team. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 23, 2014 7:08:36 GMT
We need to start building for the next World Cup NOW.
Any player who will be over the age of 30 when the next World cup comes round,needs to be discarded now,they may be good now, but in 2018 their best days will be behind them,and that includes players like Rooney.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 7:11:33 GMT
We need a new manager.
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Post by MuddyWoody on Jun 23, 2014 7:14:43 GMT
Surely the question in Gerrard's mind should be "Am I likely to play in the next tournament?" Given that he'll be 36 by the time France 2016 rolls around I think it's unlikely. In which case he should retire and give England the intervening time to build a team without him.
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Post by Northy on Jun 23, 2014 7:27:46 GMT
Surely the question in Gerrard's mind should be "Am I likely to play in the next tournament?" Given that he'll be 36 by the time France 2016 rolls around I think it's unlikely. In which case he should retire and give England the intervening time to build a team without him. Agree here, which makes me laugh to see 36 year old Frank Lampard captaining the side on Tuesday night after Roy originally said when he took over, no sentiment etc., it's a goodbye present, the slobbering bafoon, that's Woy not Frank, Frank should have spent the summer on the beach, shagging Christine and getting ready for his new club |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 23, 2014 8:10:27 GMT
If Gerrard decides to carry on,then the selfish gobshite will be thinking of himself, instead of whats best for England.
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Post by jeycov on Jun 23, 2014 8:22:20 GMT
BBC reporting that Lampard will play and captain England tomorrow and others in the squad will feature.
Sad way for Gerrards England career to come to an end - to be fair, the whole squad have disappointed.
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Post by Gods on Jun 23, 2014 9:41:56 GMT
Why should he feel any pressure at all to 'retire'? No one ever used to do that. it is a another unwelcome new development. You do your best for your club side and if the national manager comes knocking then great and if not then hey you tried. And we wonder why we haven't done anything at the Euro's or World Cup in the last 18 years. We need to get rid of the deadwood-especially the one's who keep turning up and getting beat. I suppose you are happy with his performances at the WC?? Of course we should get rid of the 'dead wood'. But why is it the job of the players to decide themselves that they are 'dead wood' and qualify themselves out? If the manager doesn't consider them good enough then he shouldn't pick them. |
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Post by superscfc on Jun 23, 2014 9:44:18 GMT
Roy's an idiot. Don't blame Gerrard for not saying he's retired yet.
Players should always take the Beckham approach of never retiring for England, it should be the managers choice, you should never give up on your country.
For Englands sake it's best he's not included for the 2016 preparations IMO but who is going to play that position?
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Post by st3mark on Jun 23, 2014 9:54:45 GMT
How olds pirlo again?
If you're the best option then you're the best option.
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Post by superscfc on Jun 23, 2014 9:59:19 GMT
How olds pirlo again? If you're the best option then you're the best option. Pirlo is 36 and he controls most games Italy preform well in, Gerrard controls games against poor opposition never done it on the international stage against any decent team. Who else is there though? Wilshere? I'd give Huddlestone a go next season in a couple of friendlies/home qualifiers |
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Post by malteser68 on Jun 23, 2014 10:00:47 GMT
How olds pirlo again? If you're the best option then you're the best option. Can't compare Gerard to pirlo. What's asked from them fit the team is completely different. And Gerard is nowhere near the class of pirlo either |
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Post by wembley4372 on Jun 23, 2014 10:15:21 GMT
Roy's an idiot. Don't blame Gerrard for not saying he's retired yet. Players should always take the Beckham approach of never retiring for England, it should be the managers choice, you should never give up on your country. For Englands sake it's best he's not included for the 2016 preparations IMO but who is going to play that position? gerrard managed to stick to a position for very few of his caps he's wandered about wherever he likes for most of them. He won't be missed. |
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Post by vahl on Jun 23, 2014 10:18:16 GMT
I don't think he will carry on. He will quit to prolong his Bin Dipper career.
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Post by salopstick on Jun 23, 2014 10:36:51 GMT
rough figures but he's performed well for about 20 caps, persisted with a lampard partnership for 80 caps and some shit games too
his legs have gone at this level hence moving back deeper.
good servant as he is one who wouldnt pull out of games
thanks stevie but give it up
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Post by salopstick on Jun 23, 2014 10:38:14 GMT
If Gerrard decides to carry on,then the selfish gobshite will be thinking of himself, instead of whats best for England. i wonder if he is after becks and shilton's records |
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 23, 2014 10:46:48 GMT
rough figures but he's performed well for about 20 caps, persisted with a lampard partnership for 80 caps and some shit games too his legs have gone at this level hence moving back deeper. good servant as he is one who wouldnt pull out of games thanks stevie but give it up He pulled out of Japan 2002 to be fit for Liverpool. He's full of shit. |
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Post by salopstick on Jun 23, 2014 10:53:56 GMT
rough figures but he's performed well for about 20 caps, persisted with a lampard partnership for 80 caps and some shit games too his legs have gone at this level hence moving back deeper. good servant as he is one who wouldnt pull out of games thanks stevie but give it up He pulled out of Japan 2002 to be fit for Liverpool. He's full of shit. to be fair pugs he had an operation, and if he had went and failed due to a half fit gerrard we would have blamed sven. you dont get 100+ caps dodging games news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/team_pages/england/newsid_1983000/1983928.stm. i personally believe like a few other players he hasnt been good enough CONSISTENTLY to warrant the amount of games he has had, but normally turned up. another player who could have benefitted from a move abroad |
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Post by britsabroad on Jun 23, 2014 11:05:25 GMT
No England manager has ever played Gerrard properly, and hes been one of the major reasons we've under performed for years. That Roy basically comes out to say he'll still play him at 36 is staggering and unsurprising in equal measure. Roy has built the team around him this time and played him in the same position he plays at Liverpool, he's had every opportunity. I can see why he's not publicly slated Gerrard and told him to retire, but I don't think it matters either way as I expect Gerrard to retire from international football in a few weeks anyway to prolong his club career. If Hodgson is brave enough to move on from the golden generation and sorts out the defence then we'll have a decent team. He plays in a 3 at Liverpool with two workhorses to cover his lack of positional discipline and facilitate whats hes actually good at. Roy played him in a two, and he left Henderson out to dry against Italy and Uruguay as he charged off trying to get the glory. |
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