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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 20:22:17 GMT
Apparently west brom have a great chance of signing him. This guy should have been screening England's defence this summer but man city have ruined his career this last two years. Still only 23 with time on his side. Would be a great signing. If west brom are after him we should be too
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Post by salopstick on Jun 21, 2014 20:25:13 GMT
Another good player who took a big clubs wedge and bench rather than playing football
Another contribute to English football
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Post by southcarolinastokie on Jun 21, 2014 20:29:41 GMT
To be fair, I don't think City have ruined his career. Injuries have done that
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 20:32:14 GMT
Not been injured most of the time he has been there and we should sign him to test hodgson. If he gets back on track at Stoke as the classy defensive midfielder he should have become will woy pick him? He'd be about the only English defensive midfielder in the prem and we'll finally have an England player!
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Post by southcarolinastokie on Jun 21, 2014 20:38:51 GMT
City won't sell him though, they need the homegrown players and they'd want to get a significant portion back for what they paid for him. Out of our price range
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Post by mattythestokie on Jun 21, 2014 20:40:41 GMT
Not now we have Sidwell.
Should N'zonzi go, on the other hand...
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Post by MadMarko10 on Jun 21, 2014 21:30:53 GMT
To be fair, I don't think City have ruined his career. Injuries have done that This is exactly what's happened but it's far easier to simply blame clubs for "ruining" players.
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Post by salopstick on Jun 21, 2014 21:58:18 GMT
To be fair, I don't think City have ruined his career. Injuries have done that He's been fit for most of his time there
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Post by salopstick on Jun 21, 2014 22:00:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 22:21:14 GMT
To be fair, I don't think City have ruined his career. Injuries have done that This is exactly what's happened but it's far easier to simply blame clubs for "ruining" players. you've got it wrong mate. So did I, he ruined the last two years himself by taking the easy money and signing for City when he should have continued to develop somewhere where he would get games. In 2009 in a euro youth game against the germans he was man of the match and on the german team were the likes of ozil, hummels, muller etc. He sums up what is wrong in the English game and why our excellent youth players don't become top internationals. However, he is still only 23 and could still be a top player if he is given regular game time. Whether we have sidwell or not, this would be a brilliant long term signing and it seems he might be available at a knock down price hence west brom are after him. We need to be in for him if he's available. And Scott Sinclair
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 22:29:52 GMT
I'd love him here! Depends the price though, a risky signing really as the bloke is rarely if ever fit.
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Post by MadMarko10 on Jun 21, 2014 22:39:56 GMT
This is exactly what's happened but it's far easier to simply blame clubs for "ruining" players. you've got it wrong mate. So did I, he ruined the last two years himself by taking the easy money and signing for City when he should have continued to develop somewhere where he would get games. In 2009 in a euro youth game against the germans he was man of the match and on the german team were the likes of ozil, hummels, muller etc. He sums up what is wrong in the English game and why our excellent youth players don't become top internationals. However, he is still only 23 and could still be a top player if he is given regular game time. Whether we have sidwell or not, this would be a brilliant long term signing and it seems he might be available at a knock down price hence west brom are after him. We need to be in for him if he's available. And Scott Sinclair He could've easily have struggled with injuries if he'd stayed at Everton. I'm pretty sure he wasn't exactly fully fit during his final season with them. Would you be saying Everton have ruined him if he'd suffered with injuries over the last two years, thus stalling his progress? I strongly doubt it. He's been injured, it happens, this isn't about someone taking the easy money and getting no game time. It's lazy to slap the "big club ruining another player" tag on him because it's not what's happened here. It's not another Shaun Wright-Phillips case. However, like you say, he's got time on his side and maybe he'll leave to just get a fresh start. Or he could regain full fitness and start realising his potential at Man City. Time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 22:41:06 GMT
Signing for WBA right now, especially with their recent managerial appointment, is mental. They will be amongst the favourites to go down.
Unless you're only in it for the money. God forbid.
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Post by kristoff on Jun 21, 2014 22:44:13 GMT
Signing for WBA right now, especially with their recent managerial appointment, is mental. They will be amongst the favourites to go down. Unless you're only in it for the money. God forbid. i agree, most seasons there is 1 club who make some bizarre decisions which nearly always lead to their relegation, WBA look certain to be that team at the moment. Id rather go to a strong championship team than one that is going tits up fast
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jun 22, 2014 7:44:35 GMT
Too much money offered too soon. He could probably retire now as a multi millionaire.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2014 8:21:33 GMT
I'd love him here, think he would massively improve us and would generate a good re-sale profit too.
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Post by lordb on Jun 22, 2014 8:22:54 GMT
Not been injured most of the time he has been there and we should sign him to test hodgson. If he gets back on track at Stoke as the classy defensive midfielder he should have become will woy pick him? He'd be about the only English defensive midfielder in the prem and we'll finally have an England player! Roy picked him last summer. Ward-Prowse is the other player who should be brought through by England. Roswell at Stoke? Why not?
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Post by kristoff on Jun 22, 2014 8:44:03 GMT
Not been injured most of the time he has been there and we should sign him to test hodgson. If he gets back on track at Stoke as the classy defensive midfielder he should have become will woy pick him? He'd be about the only English defensive midfielder in the prem and we'll finally have an England player! Roy picked him last summer. Ward-Prowse is the other player who should be brought through by England. Roswell at Stoke? Why not? Id take him in a shot if im honest. One thing that worries me is that if rightly or wrongly we believe ryan is being overlooked (before him crouch and Ethers) while they are here, is it likely any english players are gonna be put off?
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Post by greyman on Jun 23, 2014 2:05:31 GMT
Not been injured most of the time he has been there and we should sign him to test hodgson. If he gets back on track at Stoke as the classy defensive midfielder he should have become will woy pick him? He'd be about the only English defensive midfielder in the prem and we'll finally have an England player! Roy picked him last summer. Ward-Prowse is the other player who should be brought through by England. Roswell at Stoke? Why not? Roswell?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 5:19:20 GMT
I've just been thinking about this for a moment. Initially I though Rodwell - no chance, not Stoke - too much of a step down. But on reflection, I think we could become a very cute opportunity for some players who have not quite hit the mark at the highest level. We have solid ownership, great finances, a world famous manager...perhaps we need to re-appraise who we could actually tempt down to the Brit...
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Post by malteser68 on Jun 23, 2014 10:12:08 GMT
Don't think city ruined his career. He ruined it himself coz he got greedy and wanted the silly wages even though he must known that he'd be sitting it out for most of the season
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 11, 2014 8:41:46 GMT
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Post by boothenesque on Jul 11, 2014 9:19:34 GMT
Not been injured most of the time he has been there and we should sign him to test hodgson. If he gets back on track at Stoke as the classy defensive midfielder he should have become will woy pick him? He'd be about the only English defensive midfielder in the prem and we'll finally have an England player! At which point, just to avoid the ignominy of having to play a StokeC player they would be forced to change the rules to allow England to sign players from other countries. Hodgson probably thinks Stoke is near Beaconsfield. When he found out it's Stoke-on-Trent there is no way he will lower himself. If he does we should tell him to piss off.
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Post by Simon Drainrod on Jul 11, 2014 9:20:40 GMT
Would expect he will back to Everton, probably in part exchange for Barkley. (So that he can sit on their bench for the next 2 years).
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Post by metalhead on Jul 11, 2014 9:21:09 GMT
Moved for the money.
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Post by fiddlerx on Jul 11, 2014 11:17:16 GMT
I think he wouldn't come to us he can do better. When he's in the squad consistently hes great. but i would love to see him here.
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Post by 2004 on Jul 11, 2014 11:54:24 GMT
A few years at Man City and injuries have ruined him. No thanks.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Jul 11, 2014 12:14:35 GMT
With the added wages now of Joleon Lescott, WBA aint half splashing the cash about getting players in.
Rodwell won't want a bag of pork scratchings each week, has Jeremy Peace had a brain transplant?
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Jul 11, 2014 12:24:04 GMT
I think it sums up Jack Rodwells time at City that about 12 months ago, i walked past him on Deansgate as i was leaving work.
I sort of recognised him and knew he was a footballer, but it took a full week or more before the penny dropped it was Rodwell.
Forgotton man.
There are too many English players who's story reads so similar. Injuries or not, at age 18-23 it is critical that a player is playing, learning, developing. Not sat on the bench just earning.
English footballers lack personal ambition. In evry other country, the game still remains largely about glory, in this country the whol media narrative is money driven, everything is money and that feeds through to young lads as they're growing up.
Cast your minds back to 1997-98 "it's every players dream to be sold for 2 million pounds"
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Post by jeycov on Jul 11, 2014 14:28:13 GMT
He'll add to the "home grown quota" wherever he goes though.
We may be retaining certain players to stay within these restrictions for the time being.
Several more weeks to go!
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