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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 21:26:01 GMT
Please
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 21:26:35 GMT
Finally someone telling the truth
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 21:27:12 GMT
Pointless. I haven't got my "blithering Geordie idiot" translator sitting next to me right now......
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Post by bettyswallox on Jun 19, 2014 21:27:49 GMT
What's being said? Throw us a bone...
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Post by Davef on Jun 19, 2014 21:29:06 GMT
Is he discussing the art of penalty taking?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 21:29:55 GMT
Someone post what's he's saying please
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 21:30:17 GMT
Foreigners the only quality in the Premier league, more concerned with the image of the league , the brand than developing English players.....
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Post by kristoff on Jun 19, 2014 21:31:17 GMT
Foreigners the only quality in the Premier league, more concerned with the image of the league , the brand than developing English players..... So what weve been saying for years then yeah.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 21:32:11 GMT
Foreigners the only quality in the Premier league, more concerned with the image of the league , the brand than developing English players..... So what weve been saying for years then yeah. Some of us
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 21:32:59 GMT
3/4 fit Suarez to good for our defenders !
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Post by pyrus on Jun 19, 2014 21:44:11 GMT
Is he discussing the art of penalty taking? Chris waddle takes 'Pelunties'
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 21:46:43 GMT
We can blame all the players for the last 20 years, and the managers......we simply do not produce good players or managers. We train foreigners to do that job.
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Post by Billybigbollox on Jun 19, 2014 21:50:11 GMT
We have good players , but wank managers , then we get a good manager with shit players. We just need to appoint the right man.
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Post by Robo10 on Jun 19, 2014 21:50:51 GMT
Don't worry
It will all be the fault of grass roots football, kids coaches and schools....
Not the overpaid professionals
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Post by kristoff on Jun 19, 2014 21:52:26 GMT
Don't worry It will all be the fault of grass roots football, kids coaches and schools.... Not the overpaid professionals If we keep producing wank players you have to start looking down the ranks. Ive said it hundreds of times at uth level far too often players get slaughtered for using their brain. Too much by the book crap and flair is knocked out of them
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Post by redstriper on Jun 19, 2014 21:53:22 GMT
He talks a good game does chris, pity he didn't play one more often...
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Post by Robo10 on Jun 19, 2014 22:15:52 GMT
Academies and schools Kristoff fair dos
Making it fucking difficult and more expensive for lads n dads and other kids football, which for 90% of the participants is a bit of fun and exercise on a Sunday, and which people give up their time for free, is a pisstake
Most of the boys just want a game of football and to enjoy it, whatever their standard
Of course we try to develop and play better, but that's not going to make England any better as none of those kids are going to play for their country as if good enough an academy has snapped them up by now
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 19, 2014 22:45:22 GMT
He talks a good game does chris, pity he didn't play one more often... Exactly this, our players were poor at this level when he was playing and they still are now.
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Post by werrington on Jun 19, 2014 22:47:56 GMT
He talks a good game does chris, pity he didn't play one more often... Oh but he did He was an excellent player
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Post by redstriper on Jun 19, 2014 22:54:19 GMT
He talks a good game does chris, pity he didn't play one more often... Oh but he did He was an excellent player agree that when he was on song he was good. but overall - he under achieved given his ability
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Post by kristoff on Jun 19, 2014 22:55:37 GMT
Academies and schools Kristoff fair dos Making it fucking difficult and more expensive for lads n dads and other kids football, which for 90% of the participants is a bit of fun and exercise on a Sunday, and which people give up their time for free, is a pisstake Most of the boys just want a game of football and to enjoy it, whatever their standard Of course we try to develop and play better, but that's not going to make England any better as none of those kids are going to play for their country as if good enough an academy has snapped them up by now In my school team 5 players got signed by academies. 3 got let go becuase they were deemed not the standard they were looking for. the other 2 were average at best but were short fast and pretty strong. Yup you guessed it, the 3 let go were the slower skillful players. (One of which was so good it was stupid) Now im not saying this is still going on, or that was how it went across all academies but how many people have been let slip through because of things like that. All in all though there is so many problems with our national game its impossible to put a finger on it. Perhaps the FA need to decide what they want to focus on, the Premier or the England team. I dont expect us to win every tournaments (heck id be happy with a few semi's and a final). Id just like our national team to be feared.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jun 19, 2014 22:56:34 GMT
He talks a good game does chris, pity he didn't play one more often... Immense for Marseille and an important member of the best England side in my lifetime.
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Post by Northy on Jun 20, 2014 5:27:42 GMT
He talks a good game does chris, pity he didn't play one more often... Seriously? Beaten in a world cup semi final on penalties, after a hideously deflected german goal, we can only dream about semi finals these days
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 20, 2014 6:19:16 GMT
He talks a good game does chris, pity he didn't play one more often... Seriously? Beaten in a world cup semi final on penalties, after a hideously deflected german goal, we can only dream about semi finals these days The semi final was punching above our weight.
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Post by Northy on Jun 20, 2014 7:23:28 GMT
Seriously? Beaten in a world cup semi final on penalties, after a hideously deflected german goal, we can only dream about semi finals these days The semi final was punching above our weight. we had a fair few chances to score in that game, if we had beaten Germany we would have gone on to win it imo
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Post by mosquito on Jun 20, 2014 7:32:33 GMT
Seriously? Beaten in a world cup semi final on penalties, after a hideously deflected german goal, we can only dream about semi finals these days The semi final was punching above our weight. It seems we are punching above our weight, by just qualifying now, Zero points, disgrace!
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Post by andrewguk on Jun 20, 2014 7:48:53 GMT
"I'm just fed up of talking about the same old problems. The biggest problem is the Premier League. They have a product which they sell around the world which is entertaining but it's doing our players no good whatsoever.
This is a Premier league side which played in what is supposed to be the best league in the world. You're not telling me that all of those Uruguayan players will get in many teams in the world apart from Suarez.
We go on banging a drum about we've got this and we've got that. Do you know what makes the Premier League exciting? It's players like Luis Suarez, the foreign players. We hype all our players massively, as we always do."
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Post by malteser68 on Jun 20, 2014 8:01:50 GMT
He talks a good game does chris, pity he didn't play one more often... Exactly this, our players were poor at this level when he was playing and they still are now. poor. Italy 1990. England were eliminated in the semi- final ( not the group stage) on penalties by eventual winners Germany in a match which to this date is still considered one of the all-time World Cup classics
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Post by westhammustsell on Jun 20, 2014 8:07:48 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 20, 2014 8:12:42 GMT
The semi final was punching above our weight. we had a fair few chances to score in that game, if we had beaten Germany we would have gone on to win it imo Possibly but, as ever, ss soon as ee face a team with genuine aspirations to win the trophy we get knocked out.
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