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Post by StokieMatt on Jun 5, 2014 8:38:34 GMT
Want a new PC for gaming   is this spec any good? i would try build it myself but dont want knacker it ;D System Specification - Case: Corsair Obsidian 350D Micro ATX Gaming Case - Black - Power Supply: Super Flower 550W PSU - CPU: Intel Core i7 4770K 3.50GHz Haswell Processor overclocked to 4.2GHz - Motherboard: Asus Z87 Gryphon (Socket 1150) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard - Cooler: CPU Water Cooler - RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit - Hard Drive: Primary and Secondary SSD & HDD Options Available - Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX Graphics Card - Sound: High Definition 7.1 Onboard Sound Card |
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Post by vahl on Jun 5, 2014 8:49:05 GMT
Want a new PC for gaming is this spec any good? i would try build it myself but dont want knacker it ;D System Specification - Case: Corsair Obsidian 350D Micro ATX Gaming Case - Black - Power Supply: Super Flower 550W PSU - CPU: Intel Core i7 4770K 3.50GHz Haswell Processor overclocked to 4.2GHz - Motherboard: Asus Z87 Gryphon (Socket 1150) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard - Cooler: CPU Water Cooler - RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit - Hard Drive: Primary and Secondary SSD & HDD Options Available - Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX Graphics Card - Sound: High Definition 7.1 Onboard Sound Card It really depends on how much you are wanting to spend. What's the rough price of those specs? If you want my opinion, those specs are OK but the gfx card looks like it could be a bit of a bottleneck. The GTX 670/680/770/780 are all better than the 760 for performance. That being said, the 760 is good value for money at its price. I'm an ATi/AMD guy myself though - don't really like Nvidia. Other than that though, the specs are quite good for a solid gaming PC. Similar specs to mine. |
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Post by StokieMatt on Jun 5, 2014 9:01:59 GMT
i can only get Nvidia graphics cards in the build on the overclockers website
for that PC itd cost £1200
The GTX 770 4096MB any better? would it be worth spending the extra £70 on?
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Post by ukcstokie on Jun 5, 2014 9:03:57 GMT
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Post by vahl on Jun 5, 2014 9:22:33 GMT
i can only get Nvidia graphics cards in the build on the overclockers website for that PC itd cost £1200 The GTX 770 4096MB any better? would it be worth spending the extra £70 on? Yeah, I'd go for the 770 probably. ukcstokie - I've used Seagate for years and not had any problems but I had a similar experience with Nvidia which is why I prefer AMD now for graphics, so I feel your pain.  |
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Post by StokieMatt on Jun 5, 2014 9:26:29 GMT
It comes with a 2 year warranty so id hope that covers that sort of stuff |
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Post by ukcstokie on Jun 5, 2014 9:40:48 GMT
i can only get Nvidia graphics cards in the build on the overclockers website for that PC itd cost £1200 The GTX 770 4096MB any better? would it be worth spending the extra £70 on? Yeah, I'd go for the 770 probably. ukcstokie - I've used Seagate for years and not had any problems but I had a similar experience with Nvidia which is why I prefer AMD now for graphics, so I feel your pain. The Seagate disks do come with long warrantees - I'd given up on a couple of them thinking they were long out of support then checked a few weeks ago to find I could get them swapped and just needed to pay shipping (which is a rip off on a faulty product). Have had to reinstall/recover system images for Windows about a dozen times over the last year. The Seagate failure rates appear to be 7 or 8 times worst than some of their competitors - which given that WD drives are pretty similarly priced, has told me where to shop from now on. |
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Post by ukcstokie on Jun 5, 2014 9:43:30 GMT
It comes with a 2 year warranty so id hope that covers that sort of stuff ....but you'll get a replacement drive and probably have to do some recovery work. It's a pain - which I never thought about until you start have a failing disk. |
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Post by giboscfc on Jun 5, 2014 10:04:51 GMT
I won't pretend to be any sort of expert on this subject,but is a 550w PSU man enough for that set up? I did a similar build myself and I was told(probably wrongly) "to use a 750w +."
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Post by StokieMatt on Jun 5, 2014 10:17:20 GMT
It comes with a 2 year warranty so id hope that covers that sort of stuff ....but you'll get a replacement drive and probably have to do some recovery work. It's a pain - which I never thought about until you start have a failing disk. Ill be using it for games so all id have to do is redownload them? All files i save externally or have i got the wrong idea here ;D |
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Post by StokieMatt on Jun 5, 2014 10:19:10 GMT
I won't pretend to be any sort of expert on this subject,but is a 550w PSU man enough for that set up? I did a similar build myself and I was told(probably wrongly) "to use a 750w +." i cant swap that out on the website so never looked at that as an option? this computer lark is confusing enough  |
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Post by vahl on Jun 5, 2014 10:28:12 GMT
The 550w will be more than enough for that setup. It will be a pre-built machine from Overclockers right? (going off the OCUK brand in the original post?) If so, OCUK don't mess about and your PC will be stress tested and signed off before sold to you anyway.
You would only need more than 550w if you planned on using Crossfire or SLi at any point. (adding another gfx card to run dual basically)
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Post by StokieMatt on Jun 5, 2014 10:32:03 GMT
yeh will be getting it from overclockers |
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Post by ukcstokie on Jun 5, 2014 10:38:00 GMT
....but you'll get a replacement drive and probably have to do some recovery work. It's a pain - which I never thought about until you start have a failing disk. Ill be using it for games so all id have to do is redownload them? All files i save externally or have i got the wrong idea here ;D (If using it for games - I'd suggest a larger PSU (but I'm no expert). ) If you've had it for a year or so - you'll be surprised how long it will take you to download and install games again, links, programs, etc. I've rebuilt PC's for moves/after crashes and unless you really don't do much more that use something like Steam, you'll have a bit of pain and down time (a week for the replacement disk + a few days slog to get everything back). If you're spending that amount of money I'd stick an SSD in for Windows too. |
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Post by santy on Jun 5, 2014 10:42:01 GMT
It all depends on how eager you are, but there isn't an enormous amount of great games about at the moment, and up until Thief came out my PC which was built in May 2010 was still playing all the games I had on the highest settings on a 1920x1200 resolution.
It's a good PC by current standards and not all that bad in terms of cost, but I think over the next few months games are finally going to start ramping up. Personally I'm hoping to hold out until Broadwell CPU's emerge later this year or early next year.
After a fair few years of treading water they may finally start pushing on in terms of how demanding games are.
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Post by vahl on Jun 5, 2014 10:46:45 GMT
Ill be using it for games so all id have to do is redownload them? All files i save externally or have i got the wrong idea here ;D (If using it for games - I'd suggest a larger PSU (but I'm no expert). ) If you've had it for a year or so - you'll be surprised how long it will take you to download and install games again, links, programs, etc. I've rebuilt PC's for moves/after crashes and unless you really don't do much more that use something like Steam, you'll have a bit of pain and down time (a week for the replacement disk + a few days slog to get everything back). If you're spending that amount of money I'd stick an SSD in for Windows too. Agree with what you say about downloading things again. Pain in the arse - especially if you don't have a mega connection handy. SSD's don't really offer anything beneficial to a gamer nowadays, as most HDD's provide more than enough performance with their mega data transfer rates. I use an SSD (60gb) myself - with windows on it - but I only had it because it came as a bundle with my PC. The only benefit I've got from an SSD is that I can restart my PC in literally seconds. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 11:01:13 GMT
I'd like a 750 w PSU in there and look for graphics with the most video memory but stay with nvidia , remeber a gaming system wants stability not speed so a diesel not a petrol=)
A creative labs sound card for EAX sound effects is always nice.
Don.t skimp on your monitor or keybaord and mouse that is what you look at all day and what you use,
I recommend Logitech G13 gamepads for serious gamers but they only support right handed people.
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Post by britsabroad on Jun 5, 2014 14:47:48 GMT
If you want to future proof it you might want to think about 32GB RAM. I'd also ditch the SSD and get a second drive in a RAID 1 config. Then it doesn't matter if the Seagate fails |
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Post by denman on Jun 5, 2014 19:50:34 GMT
If you want to future proof it you might want to think about 32GB RAM. I'd also ditch the SSD and get a second drive in a RAID 1 config. Then it doesn't matter if the Seagate fails What did OP do to you ? Why are you trying to screw him over with these ludicrous suggestions ? |
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Post by santy on Jun 6, 2014 9:26:34 GMT
At first I assumed he was meaning a RAID set up for performance but then remembered that's a RAID 0 and SSD's piss all over that. If you were really expecting your HDD to fail that badly you set up a RAID 1 you might as well just get another HDD lol.
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Post by StokieMatt on Jun 6, 2014 10:01:08 GMT
Whooooooooosh So does anyone want tell me in simple terms what's best have in this pc?  I can order it this week then |
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Post by britsabroad on Jun 6, 2014 10:30:44 GMT
If you want to future proof it you might want to think about 32GB RAM. I'd also ditch the SSD and get a second drive in a RAID 1 config. Then it doesn't matter if the Seagate fails What did OP do to you ? Why are you trying to screw him over with these ludicrous suggestions ? I remember how quickly 2GB became obsolete, then 4, and so on. Its an expensive build the OP is looking at... I'd want it future proofed. As for SSD's - no-one genuinely needs them in a desktop, even for gaming. I'd far prefer two decent, big HDDs with some redundancy instead. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 16:47:01 GMT
I really don't want to start talking Raid or Sli or Span or Eyefinity multi monitor set ups on a forum where it is difficult to show the benefits of one system or another.
Have a look at an Alienware Gaming PC and match it , you won't go far wrong as they know what they are about.
Otherwise get a couple of specs printed and go to OcUK and talk to one of their technicians .it's only up castle so not far to go for such an expensive PC =)
Been a while since I worked at Overclockers so not sure who is technical support now and unless you are certain what you are doing I would reccomend you let them build and install it for you as well.
Feel free to nag me if you need some specific jaron translating to English.
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