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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 12:26:15 GMT
my punt £10 on the nose Suarez or not
probably get better than 28's now too
my thinking
1) No European country has won a major Football competition in Latin America
2) Cant stand Argentina or Brazil (absolutely)
3) Suarez will make the later stages in spite of his op
4) The other striker is quite tasty as well
5) the competition will not be about defending - it will be about attacking
6) Why not Uruguay
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 29, 2014 12:29:13 GMT
Chile are the better outsiders in my opinion. (Although I think the Argies will do it)
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Post by Pugsley on May 29, 2014 12:37:16 GMT
You've wasted a tenner. The winners will come from Brazil, Argentina or Spain. Maybe Germany or Italy.
They have the best players and coaches.
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Post by unknown182 on May 29, 2014 12:38:46 GMT
I had them before Suarez got injured  Not looking good now so i'm tempted to go with Colombia |
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 29, 2014 12:39:30 GMT
Uruguay will struggle to make it out of the group. I fancy the Italians and us.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 29, 2014 12:39:34 GMT
I don't think Uruguay will get out of the group, to be honest.
A half-fit Suarez and Cavani outside, don't they they look pretty ordinary?
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Post by GrahamHyde on May 29, 2014 12:40:39 GMT
Brazil will win for me. I'd be very surprised if they don't. Who will beat them in the latter stages in front of such a powerful, hostile atmosphere? Would be extremely difficult.
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Post by Danstoke82 on May 29, 2014 12:41:19 GMT
Probably a long shot but I reckon the French might do ok this time around.
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Post by GrahamHyde on May 29, 2014 12:42:46 GMT
I don't think Uruguay will get out of the group, to be honest. A half-fit Suarez and Cavani outside, don't they they look pretty ordinary? Disagree. I think they'll top it with ease. Climate suits them and they have a more favourable schedule with Costa Rica first game. They are the best side in the group. |
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Post by thepremierbanksy on May 29, 2014 12:49:13 GMT
I don't think Uruguay will get out of the group, to be honest. A half-fit Suarez and Cavani outside, don't they they look pretty ordinary? Godin has looked anything but in his last two outings, but yes they aren't exactly stellar from 1-11. Then again we've got Glen Johnson and no proper defensive midfielder. I doubt I'll back it but 28/1 is worth an each way shout with Coral who will refund the bet if Brasil or Argentina win. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 29, 2014 12:50:51 GMT
Uruguay have three excellent players in Suarez, Cavani and Godin but they don't particularly strike the fear of God into me. Not with Diego Lugano and Caceres likely to be arseing around at the back.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 29, 2014 13:05:03 GMT
I don't think Uruguay will get out of the group, to be honest. A half-fit Suarez and Cavani outside, don't they they look pretty ordinary? Godin has looked anything but in his last two outings, but yes they aren't exactly stellar from 1-11. Then again we've got Glen Johnson and no proper defensive midfielder. I doubt I'll back it but 28/1 is worth an each way shout with Coral who will refund the bet if Brasil or Argentina win. Yeah - he has caught the eye recently, definitely. Take the above point about the climate, although England play the potentially decisive match against them in Sao Paulo, which shouldn't be too hot. On paper, I'd give England the edge especially if Suarez is undercooked - but it so often looks different on grass! |
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Post by PotterLog on May 29, 2014 13:07:57 GMT
my punt £10 on the nose Suarez or not probably get better than 28's now too my thinking 1) No European country has won a major Football competition in Latin America 2) Cant stand Argentina or Brazil (absolutely) 3) Suarez will make the later stages in spite of his op 4) The other striker is quite tasty as well 5) the competition will not be about defending - it will be about attacking6) Why not Uruguay Uruguay probably have the most defensive approach of all the South American teams. |
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Post by mynamesnotmark on May 29, 2014 14:30:22 GMT
Brazil will win for me. I'd be very surprised if they don't. Who will beat them in the latter stages in front of such a powerful, hostile atmosphere? Would be extremely difficult. i did fancy Brazil but i've just seen they get Spain or Holland in the 2nd round, Germany and Argentina look to have easier routes |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 29, 2014 14:33:16 GMT
Brazil will win for me. I'd be very surprised if they don't. Who will beat them in the latter stages in front of such a powerful, hostile atmosphere? Would be extremely difficult. i did fancy Brazil but i've just seen they get Spain or Holland in the 2nd round, Germany and Argentina look to have easier routes Or Chile? Seems to be a growing number of people who think Chile will get through a the expense of Holland. Either way, Brazil's 2nd Round game should be a corker! |
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 29, 2014 14:38:33 GMT
i did fancy Brazil but i've just seen they get Spain or Holland in the 2nd round, Germany and Argentina look to have easier routes Or Chile? Seems to be a growing number of people who think Chile will get through a the expense of Holland. Either way, Brazil's 2nd Round game should be a corker! Listening to the South American sports journo Tim Vickery a few weeks ago and he seems to suggest Brazil would much rather player Spain and Holland over Chile. Btw, Holland's squad looks very average (on paper) |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 29, 2014 14:40:19 GMT
my punt £10 on the nose Suarez or not probably get better than 28's now too my thinking 1) No European country has won a major Football competition in Latin America 2) Cant stand Argentina or Brazil (absolutely) 3) Suarez will make the later stages in spite of his op 4) The other striker is quite tasty as well 5) the competition will not be about defending - it will be about attacking 6) Why not Uruguay Uruguay are 33's with Sky Bet and they'll give you your losing stake back (as a free bet) if Brazil win the cup and your team doesn't. Outright win bets only. |
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Post by vahl on May 29, 2014 14:47:11 GMT
Out of the South American teams, Uruguay and Argentina would be my favourites.
I can't see Brazil coping with the pressure. They will make the latter stages but talk of them winning it will be wide of the mark, even as host nation. If there's one nation in the world that puts enormous pressure on their national football team, just like England, it's Brazil and their current lads wont have what it takes to step up IMO.
Argentina would be my favourites to win the whole thing but Uruguay could cause some upsets and in the context of this thread, represent immense value for money at 28/1. After all, Uruguay made the semi-final of the last World Cup, they are the current Copa America champions and also have 2 World Cup trophies to their name.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on May 29, 2014 14:47:31 GMT
i did fancy Brazil but i've just seen they get Spain or Holland in the 2nd round, Germany and Argentina look to have easier routes Or Chile? Seems to be a growing number of people who think Chile will get through a the expense of Holland. Either way, Brazil's 2nd Round game should be a corker! Yep, similar to 82 when Brazil went out to Italy early in the knockout stages. Brazil had a fantastic team, Socrates, Falcao, Zico etc, but defensive lapses and a Paulo Rossi hat trick sent them out. As well as 3 goals, Rossi missed an absolute sitter too.
Spain look to have the most complete team, especially if they get Costa fit and firing. But if Argentina's attacking players click there could be fireworks.
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Post by mynamesnotmark on May 29, 2014 14:52:40 GMT
anyone actually think we have a chance?  |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 29, 2014 14:56:23 GMT
Out of the South American teams, Uruguay and Argentina would be my favourites. I can't see Brazil coping with the pressure. They will make the latter stages but talk of them winning it will be wide of the mark, even as host nations. If there's one nation in the world that puts enormous pressure on their national football team, just like England, it's Brazil and their current lads wont have what it takes to step up IMO. Argentina would be my favourites to win the whole thing but Uruguay could cause some upsets and in the context of this thread, represent immense value for money at 28/1. After all, Uruguay made the semi-final of the last World Cup, they are the current Copa America champions and also have 2 World Cup trophies to their name.  When you look at the likely XI, though, it's not one to strike the fear of God into you, is it? They finished behind Chile, Colombia and Ecuador in qualification |
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on May 29, 2014 15:00:30 GMT
Would that be James Rodriguez? Heard good things about him this season in Europe.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 29, 2014 15:00:45 GMT
anyone actually think we have a chance? If Woy let's them off the leash we could cause an upset against almost anyone.. but how likely is that going to be?  |
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 29, 2014 15:01:30 GMT
Would that be James Rodriguez? Heard good things about him this season in Europe. As in Monaco? he's Colombian. |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 29, 2014 15:03:14 GMT
Would that be James Rodriguez? Heard good things about him this season in Europe. Think he plays for Monaco and Colombia Uruguay's Rodriguez is an Atletico Madrid back-up player with 2 league starts this season. |
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on May 29, 2014 15:05:38 GMT
Thank you. If they get Falcao fit they might be dark horses. And we could well meet them in the 2nd round...
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 29, 2014 15:05:47 GMT
FM, I swear you're just copying my posts on this thread and adding a bit more information! ;-)
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 29, 2014 15:05:47 GMT
Columbia qualified strongly and should get out of their group along with Ivory Coast.
They'll progress.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 29, 2014 15:06:53 GMT
FM, I swear you're just copying my posts on this thread and adding a bit more information! ;-) Haha! |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 29, 2014 15:09:34 GMT
Thank you. If they get Falcao fit they might be dark horses. And we could well meet them in the 2nd round... Yeah - I think whoever we potentially meet in the 2nd round will be a really stiff game. I quite fancy the Japs to qualify, and they would really give us a game. I think we could take the Ivory Coast - but Colombia would be really tough. |
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Not looking good now so i'm tempted to go with Colombia
