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Post by Northy on May 25, 2014 21:22:01 GMT
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Post by desman2 on May 25, 2014 21:32:54 GMT
Somethings obviously going on isnt it. Its no good anyone complaining. If those in politics used brains instead of bollocks then this wouldn't happen. Unfortunately arrogance carries no credibility.
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Post by maninasuitcase on May 25, 2014 21:39:25 GMT
Just seen it on TV.
The FN party in France is storming the polls at the moment.
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Post by desman2 on May 25, 2014 21:42:04 GMT
Cant wait for the BBC wake. I get this feeling youre going to hear the full range of labels being thrown around.
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Post by salopstick on May 25, 2014 22:10:59 GMT
It's awful but the mainstream parties and the arrogance of the EU have caused this.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 22:20:58 GMT
Farage predicted this
All down to those in charge in Brussels ......not accepting the democratic votes of the people
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Post by mermaidsal on May 25, 2014 22:34:46 GMT
It's awful but the mainstream parties and the arrogance of the EU have caused this. Scary times - and we agree about the reasons. The Greens seem to be quietly making gains for the same reason, on a much smaller scale. Hearing what's going on in France especially, makes me thank God for UKIP, without them people here could easily have gone further right. |
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Post by salopstick on May 25, 2014 22:38:00 GMT
The mainstream parties have to take note. Farage predicts miliband will promise a referendum
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Post by salopstick on May 25, 2014 23:07:02 GMT
And farage will not align himself with the European far right parties
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Post by starkiller on May 25, 2014 23:09:30 GMT
The EU dictatorship is a Hitler wet dream.
Opposition to it is not merely "right wing". These are arbitrary labels anyway.
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Post by salopstick on May 25, 2014 23:22:42 GMT
Fuck off nick griffin.
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Post by lastoftheldk on May 25, 2014 23:23:15 GMT
far Left in Greece
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Post by ukcstokie on May 25, 2014 23:24:48 GMT
What the EU should take from tonight: it needs massive reform - turning it into an institution that actually represents the people of Europe rather than the institution itself. "Root and branch" reform would follow with the gravy train ended and democracy put at the heart of Europe.
What will actually happened: they'll say they're listening and take note and reform. They'll spend more of OUR money promoting the EU.
Nothing will change. Including the disillusionment of the people of Europe.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 23:51:13 GMT
It all clearly shows that the British public have had enough of the immigration system and what it stands for.
If nothing else it will make some people rethink their slanderous racist chants against the vast majority who have had enough.
This applies across both Labour and Tory heartlands.
One small step for democracy , one giant leap for the natives.!
The days of acceptance and tolerance are over.
The line in the sand has been drawn and Farage has restored some nationalistic sense of pride that many thought had gone forever.
Both major parties will now have to reconsider their position and policies to prevent further damage.
I suspect they won't.
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Post by skip on May 25, 2014 23:56:36 GMT
Fuck UKIP and fuck the far right.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 0:02:01 GMT
Practically the whole of Kent is Ukip.... Think geographically as to its significance....Ha Ha ...  Our back passage has now been plugged.!  |
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Post by salopstick on May 26, 2014 0:06:36 GMT
Do you think then mumf the uk electorate deserves an in out referendum.
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Post by salopstick on May 26, 2014 0:09:04 GMT
The liberal Democratic Party are a party that believes in and wants to stay in Europe.
But don't believe in a referendum to allow the nation to choose that democratically
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 0:11:48 GMT
Do you think then mumf the uk electorate deserves an in out referendum. Yes I do. I also know it would cause economic collapse and misery for decades. So.....you have to temper your desires against the bigger picture . Both major parties know the consequences of offering a referendum and in Cameron's case it's annihilation. |
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Post by ukcstokie on May 26, 2014 0:13:44 GMT
Fuck UKIP and fuck the far right. So it's fuck the people then? Maybe listening to what the people are saying and trying to solve the problems. That will stop people turning to the far right (which is what most of us fear). |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 0:15:25 GMT
I'm not playing party politics . There are no ifs and buts . It's a simple choice.
You have to look at the big picture.
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Post by salopstick on May 26, 2014 0:15:59 GMT
Do you think then mumf the uk electorate deserves an in out referendum. Yes I do. I also know it would cause economic collapse and misery for decades. So.....you have to temper your desires against the bigger picture . Both major parties know the consequences of offering a referendum and in Cameron's case it's annihilation. Maybe mate this provokes eu reform. In principal the eu is alright ish. In practice absolute power corrupts. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 0:21:29 GMT
Euro sceptics have only one hope and that the Eu fragments from within . In view of the poorer countries that are now a part of Europe they obviously want to hang on to it for grim death . Like a sick dog waiting for its food and medicine.
Greece , Italy , etc etc....
A massive financial burden is now the only way of dissolution and separatism .
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 26, 2014 0:22:54 GMT
Euro sceptics have only one hope and that the Eu fragments from within . In view of the poorer countries that are now a part of Europe they obviously to hang on to it for grim death . Like a sick dog waiting for its food and medicine. Greece , Italy , etc etc.... A massive financial burden is now the only way of dissolution and separatism . Eurosceptics came first in Greece. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 0:26:12 GMT
Euro sceptics have only one hope and that the Eu fragments from within . In view of the poorer countries that are now a part of Europe they obviously to hang on to it for grim death . Like a sick dog waiting for its food and medicine. Greece , Italy , etc etc.... A massive financial burden is now the only way of dissolution and separatism . Eurosceptics came first in Greece. That's because of the state of the Greece economy and the sanctions of repayment imposed by Brussels. They've had there belly filled and now they want to fuck off without paying the bill. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 0:28:44 GMT
Do you think then mumf the uk electorate deserves an in out referendum. Yes I do. I also know it would cause economic collapse and misery for decades. So.....you have to temper your desires against the bigger picture . Both major parties know the consequences of offering a referendum and in Cameron's case it's annihilation. And in Millibands case desperation ....but you are correct in your earlier point concerning a referendum ....for the sake of democracy and to put this subject to bed once and for all .....whichever way ....the people need to have their say .....possibly they would choose what is wrong for Britain .....on our heads be it |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 26, 2014 0:28:53 GMT
Eurosceptics came first in Greece. That's because of the state of the Greece economy and the sanctions of repayment imposed by Brussels. They've had there belly filled and now they want to fuck off without paying the bill. It's kind of a political analogy of Kostas Mitroglou. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 0:31:34 GMT
I'm not playing party politics . There are no ifs and buts . It's a simple choice. You have to look at the big picture. Quite right. , on this we are in agreement |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 0:33:27 GMT
Yes I do. I also know it would cause economic collapse and misery for decades. So.....you have to temper your desires against the bigger picture . Both major parties know the consequences of offering a referendum and in Cameron's case it's annihilation. And in Millibands case desperation ....but you are correct in your earlier point concerning a referendum ....for the sake of democracy and to put this subject to bed once and for all .....whichever way ....the people need to have their say .....possibly they would choose what is wrong for Britain .....on our heads be it After these results tonight ...we know the electorate would make the wrong decision as I've been saying to you all for years. Some just couldn't get my reasoning.! |
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Post by salopstick on May 26, 2014 0:42:30 GMT
And in Millibands case desperation ....but you are correct in your earlier point concerning a referendum ....for the sake of democracy and to put this subject to bed once and for all .....whichever way ....the people need to have their say .....possibly they would choose what is wrong for Britain .....on our heads be it After these results tonight ...we know the electorate would make the wrong decision as I've been saying to you all for years. Some just couldn't get my reasoning.! a collective democratic majority verdict would be the correct one |
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