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Post by Gods on May 21, 2014 8:47:11 GMT
Lots of wanking over Palace in last nights London Evening Standard as they head off to Las Vegas and Pulis 'commits his future' after agreeing a new budget. Anyway this quote caught my eye from Stephen Browett their co-chairman: "Stoke have a much, much smaller catchment area than Palace and has smaller potential because you have the big Manchester clubs a bit further north and not a very large population. We are the biggest club in South London and within an hour of Selhurst Park there are more than 5 million people"Mr. Browett makes it sound like we are a bunch of village bumpkins with our trousers held together at the waist with harvesting twine compared to their big city outfit  On a serious note I think I have the capacity to really start to dislike these jokers especially if they make a decent start to the next campaign  |
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Post by block27row27 on May 21, 2014 8:49:41 GMT
What an arse. Why is he even mentioning Stoke at all? Almost some sort of obsession. Or jealous? Should tell him to come back when they make an FA Cup final and finish 9th in the Premier League.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 21, 2014 8:50:25 GMT
Don't worry Gods, the natives will soon tire of PulisBall and return to the safety of their £10 a cup coffee's in $tarbucks.
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Post by Beardy200 on May 21, 2014 8:56:07 GMT
What an arse. Why is he even mentioning Stoke at all? Almost some sort of obsession. Or jealous? Should tell him to come back when they make an FA Cup final and finish 9th in the Premier League. Well as TP used to be our manager perhaps somebody asked him if he he hoped he could do something similar or better at Palace? |
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on May 21, 2014 9:00:58 GMT
Well as TP used to be our manager perhaps somebody asked him if he he hoped he could do something similar or better at Palace? The answer still wouldn't make sense would it? |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 9:01:45 GMT
Interesting info Gods
Palace are rightly beaming with joy at the moment. They think TP is God right now for keeping them up but there is no doubt at all that they expect 'more' next season.
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Post by dozintheseventees on May 21, 2014 9:02:09 GMT
Lots of wanking over Palace in last nights London Evening Standard as they head off to Las Vegas and Pulis 'commits his future' after agreeing a new budget. Anyway this quote caught my eye from Stephen Browett their co-chairman: "Stoke have a much, much smaller catchment area than Palace and has smaller potential because you have the big Manchester clubs a bit further north and not a very large population. We are the biggest club in South London and within an hour of Selhurst Park there are more than 5 million people"Mr. Browett makes it sound like we are a bunch of village bumpkins with our trousers held together at the waist with harvesting twine compared to their big city outfit On a serious note I think I have the capacity to really start to dislike these jokers especially if they make a decent start to the next campaign I think it's a bit naughty of him to throw us into the equation to be honest. Mind you, I don't have too many problems with what he says about Stoke because we use the very same argument ourselves at times (surrounded by much bigger cities/clubs) when stating our own case for how well we do under those prevailing circumstances. Where his argument falls short is his assumption that HIS club could attract significant support from within an hour of Selhurst Park" when, clearly there are much bigger and better clubs (and plenty of them) within that catchment area. We are, at least, a city within our own rights and have a reasonably large catchment area within which we are the only Premier League Football Club. All things considered, I think Stoke City are a bigger club than Crystal Palace. That said, when it comes to signings etc, London clubs will always have something of an advantage over the likes of us where some players are concerned. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 9:05:54 GMT
Well as TP used to be our manager perhaps somebody asked him if he he hoped he could do something similar or better at Palace? The answer still wouldn't make sense would it? yes Pulis was our manager and what he's basically saying is that if you look at what he achieved here where we don't have as big a pool to choose from and are in direct competition with bigger clubs for players we could get for the future (presumably he means at youth level who may turn into squad players) then anything is possible at Palace where do have those kind of advantages. i don't think it's dick measuring at all; merely saying how well he did at Stoke without having the plus points that he may have at Palace. i actually think it was a compliment to us (and him) and how we've turned out.simply a case of "Look at how well he did at Stoke and they haven't got the resources we have". perfectly valid point to be fair and sounds good to the fans in terms of their intent to push on and see us a marker and i don't think there was any intention at all to insult us in any way. i think people are far far too paranoid on here at times. |
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Post by eddyclamp on May 21, 2014 9:06:05 GMT
How many people does he expect to get in that shit hole of a ground?
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Post by unknown182 on May 21, 2014 9:06:25 GMT
It will be interesting to see what transfers he brings in
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 9:07:45 GMT
May be it's because ANY promoted team will look how well (or badly) other clubs have done. We are a stand out team as a good example as how to progress in the top flight.
He's simply comparing a population catchment area with another club with a view to the future and he's right they don't have much competition in that part of the world, plenty of wealthy areas as well.
If they do progress like we have they could well have bigger attendances and turnover in a few years time......if.
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Post by nott1 on May 21, 2014 9:11:28 GMT
They should be ashamed to admit that with such a massive catchment area they struggle to get out of the Championship and stay there, and idolise a cast off Stoke manager!
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on May 21, 2014 9:11:30 GMT
The answer still wouldn't make sense would it? yes That's literally all you needed to write. And it's wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 9:13:48 GMT
That's literally all you needed to write. And it's wrong. well given the fact that i've backed up my answer with reasoning are you going to do the same or just presume it's some slight on Stoke because then people can have yet another moan about fuck all where they've had to squint and close one eye so they can intentionally see something negative that isn't really there just to have an excuse to moan their bag off? |
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on May 21, 2014 9:21:31 GMT
There may be 5 million people within an hour of Selhurst Park, but there are also about 70 million other clubs within an hour of Selhurst Park as well.
90% (and I'm being very generous) of those 5 million people will either not have any interest in football or support another team already, which most likely will be a club who are much bigger and better established than Crystal Palace will ever be.
Perhaps this chairman should focus on avoiding relegation next season before planning his new 5 million seater stadium, the cunt.
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Post by block27row27 on May 21, 2014 9:22:18 GMT
What an arse. Why is he even mentioning Stoke at all? Almost some sort of obsession. Or jealous? Should tell him to come back when they make an FA Cup final and finish 9th in the Premier League. Well as TP used to be our manager perhaps somebody asked him if he he hoped he could do something similar or better at Palace? Even if somebody did ask that, it's not presented a clear cut opportunity to start belittling Stoke in any way |
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Post by Davef on May 21, 2014 9:24:52 GMT
What an arse. Why is he even mentioning Stoke at all? Almost some sort of obsession. Or jealous? Should tell him to come back when they make an FA Cup final and finish 9th in the Premier League. Why is he mentioning Stoke? Maybe because the bloke who managed us for a decade has been in his ear. |
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on May 21, 2014 9:26:12 GMT
well given the fact that i've backed up my answer with reasoning are you going to do the same or just presume it's some slight on Stoke because then people can have yet another moan about fuck all where they've had to squint and close one eye so they can intentionally see something negative that isn't really there just to have an excuse to moan their bag off? If you like.. Interviewer, "Can we replicate the positives from Stoke City's time with TP in charge?" Interviewee, "Stoke have a much, much smaller catchment area than Palace and has smaller potential because you have the big Manchester clubs a bit further north and not a very large population. We are the biggest club in South London and within an hour of Selhurst Park there are more than 5 million people" Interviewer, "That had no real relevance to what I asked, and gave me no indication as to what your answer to my question might be. Mickmillslovechild is wrong it seems" Ok, so he didn't say that last part, I just thought it would be a nice addition. |
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Post by Kjones9 on May 21, 2014 9:27:50 GMT
Tone's toughest ever job is now managing their expectations, they're a much more refined bunch than us country bumpkins.
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Post by dozintheseventees on May 21, 2014 9:28:47 GMT
That's literally all you needed to write. And it's wrong. well given the fact that i've backed up my answer with reasoning are you going to do the same or just presume it's some slight on Stoke because then people can have yet another moan about fuck all where they've had to squint and close one eye so they can intentionally see something negative that isn't really there just to have an excuse to moan their bag off? You DID give a very reasoned (and reasonable) response Mick and I agree with much of it. I don't think he was 'having a go' at Stoke at all and have no problem with what he said about us. However, if he's going to make the comparison, it's then fair to look at what he says about his own club, their catchment area and potential for drawing significantly larger numbers from that. I have no problem with his assessment of us at all but I do think there are huge flaws in his very simplistic assessment of his own club's potential when measured against ours. He (rightly) mentions the big city to our north and could easily have mentioned several others as well as the one to our south but, when talking about his own club's catchment area, he ignores the mass of bigger clubs that compete for support in that area. IMHO Crystal Palace face significant hurdles in that respect and I consider it the most inaccessible and one of the least attractive of all the main clubs in London. |
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Post by apb1 on May 21, 2014 9:31:10 GMT
He's clearly been quoted out of context, but even so he's a bit silly.
BUT Crystal Palace got 50,000 in for their promotion decider in the year we both got promoted (79?) so he might have a point. South London is a bit of a desert for football so they are right to think of potential - we should do the same.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 21, 2014 9:37:59 GMT
Charlton are the biggest club in South London aren't they?
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Post by Beardy200 on May 21, 2014 9:38:50 GMT
Well as TP used to be our manager perhaps somebody asked him if he he hoped he could do something similar or better at Palace? Even if somebody did ask that, it's not presented a clear cut opportunity to start belittling Stoke in any way Saying they can potentially attract more fans and players because they're in london is not belittling anybody unless you're a bit sensitive  |
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Post by Kjones9 on May 21, 2014 9:39:42 GMT
I hope they don't 'do a Charlton'.
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 21, 2014 9:41:01 GMT
We've been here before with Palace thought haven't we? Back in the halcyon days of Venables when they were hailed as the Norwood equivalent of Barcelona. They've come up and gone down and history suggests they'll do the same again. I was amazed at how well they did under TP and cap off to him but he'll doubtless have a hell of a job equalling 11th. I'm not sure the Palace fans realise that but they will. What they do seem to have at Selhurst Park is an atmosphere that compares to our own and we all know how important that is.
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Post by salopstick on May 21, 2014 9:45:00 GMT
well given the fact that i've backed up my answer with reasoning are you going to do the same or just presume it's some slight on Stoke because then people can have yet another moan about fuck all where they've had to squint and close one eye so they can intentionally see something negative that isn't really there just to have an excuse to moan their bag off? You DID give a very reasoned (and reasonable) response Mick and I agree with much of it. I don't think he was 'having a go' at Stoke at all and have no problem with what he said about us. However, if he's going to make the comparison, it's then fair to look at what he says about his own club, their catchment area and potential for drawing significantly larger numbers from that. I have no problem with his assessment of us at all but I do think there are huge flaws in his very simplistic assessment of his own club's potential when measured against ours. He (rightly) mentions the big city to our north and could easily have mentioned several others as well as the one to our south but, when talking about his own club's catchment area, he ignores the mass of bigger clubs that compete for support in that area. IMHO Crystal Palace face significant hurdles in that respect and I consider it the most inaccessible and one of the least attractive of all the main clubs in London. his location means that instead of driving an hour to the big clubs in the north west parents can jump on the tube to arsenal, chelsea, spurs, fulham, charlton, orient, qpr, millwall but the really special youngsters choose west ham, because they play football the right way |
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Post by dozintheseventees on May 21, 2014 9:47:15 GMT
We've been here before with Palace thought haven't we? Back in the halcyon days of Venables when they were hailed as the Norwood equivalent of Barcelona. They've come up and gone down and history suggests they'll do the same again. I was amazed at how well they did under TP and cap off to him but he'll doubtless have a hell of a job equalling 11th. I'm not sure the Palace fans realise that but they will. What they do seem to have at Selhurst Park is an atmosphere that compares to our own and we all know how important that is. Their support has been absolutely fantastic this season, no doubt. We Do all know how important that is and we also know how difficult it is to maintain it. I agree that they need to understand just how hard it will be to repeat their excellent season again next season. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on May 21, 2014 9:49:52 GMT
well given the fact that i've backed up my answer with reasoning are you going to do the same or just presume it's some slight on Stoke because then people can have yet another moan about fuck all where they've had to squint and close one eye so they can intentionally see something negative that isn't really there just to have an excuse to moan their bag off? If you like.. Interviewer, "Can we replicate the positives from Stoke City's time with TP in charge?" Interviewee, "Stoke have a much, much smaller catchment area than Palace and has smaller potential because you have the big Manchester clubs a bit further north and not a very large population. We are the biggest club in South London and within an hour of Selhurst Park there are more than 5 million people" Interviewer, "That had no real relevance to what I asked, and gave me no indication as to what your answer to my question might be. Mickmillslovechild is wrong it seems" Ok, so he didn't say that last part, I just thought it would be a nice addition. It seems a pefectly reasonable comparison to me, he is saying that not only can they replicate what Stoke have achieved but have the opportunity to do even better because demographics are in their favour. It is not a pop at Stoke but a compliment and a very good way of illustrating the opportunity for Palace. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 9:54:24 GMT
Sounds toe as though they expect to be chasing the same players and is trying to big up palace while putting stoke down.
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Post by NassauDave on May 21, 2014 9:55:05 GMT
I would defy the cunts to add a major expansion to their stadium in anticipation of their new found support...........maybe not.
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