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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 23:51:43 GMT
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 4, 2014 23:55:08 GMT
He probably is being hypocritical, but by the way he's winding up the scousers he can carry on for me. As for the top comment, I've never heard such a bunch of bullshit in my life, "teams always step up against us". Wanker. Also Pulis once infamously labelled the difference between us and Citeh after a 3-0 loss as......"about £300 million Nige".
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Post by GrahamHyde on May 5, 2014 0:04:33 GMT
His original comment referred to a comparison with Crystal Palace, not Stoke City, so why are they bringing up his money spent here? Also it's wages that matter more than transfer spend. A club like Liverpool can attract a player that Stoke or Crystal Palace can't attract for the same price.
The points he made are fair ones and I don't know why the article is trying to convince people that Liverpool haven't spent a lot of money. They have. Relative to Man City and Chelsea they haven't, but relative to the rest ofthe league they are on a different platform.
No matter what bollocks these pundits spout in their analysis of games. Ultimately the teams who have the best players will generally win the most games. And it's generally teams that pay the highest wages that have the best players.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 5, 2014 0:15:45 GMT
What a girly, hysterical response to the usual pre-match bigging up of the opposition.
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Post by M on May 5, 2014 0:59:33 GMT
What a girly, hysterical response to the usual pre-match bigging up of the opposition. It's exactly that. True to form TP is deflecting everything away from his team. It's his strength in creating that siege mentality that lowly 'us' [insert the team he manages] should be grateful to be on the same pitch as them; after all we shouldn't be able to compete with them. It's what we got frustrated about, but as Delap (I think it was at the time) said in an interview was that what he said in the dressing room was totally different. He just wanted to put the pressure on the opposition.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 1:06:44 GMT
Could this article be a thinly veiled distraction to poor cold water on those people backing Tony Pulis for the 'Manager of the Season' award.
I think so ....Throw enough shit at the wall and hope some sticks.
mumf
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 1:25:28 GMT
Could this article be a thinly veiled distraction to poor cold water on those people backing Tony Pulis for the 'Manager of the Season' award. I think so ....Throw enough shit at the wall and hope some sticks. mumf[/quote He deserves the award ...you think far to much about shit for my mind
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Post by bolders on May 5, 2014 2:56:20 GMT
He doesn't deserve manager of the season, he has done wonders at palace, I think only managers that have completed a full season should be in contention for the award
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Post by heisenberg on May 5, 2014 7:00:16 GMT
He doesn't deserve manager of the season, he has done wonders at palace, I think only managers that have completed a full season should be in contention for the award So you don't think pulis had a harder job, coming in 12/13 games in to a season, to a squad he had nothing to do with until January, that we're 1/11 favourites to go down and he has dragged them up to 4 points behind us (with tonight's game in hand) and 10 points clear of the relegation! To say he doesn't deserve it is ludicrous! To be honest by your theory of a 'manager who has been there all season' you leave Rodgers and Martinez! Decisions decisions!!
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on May 5, 2014 7:03:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 7:03:43 GMT
Great article that helps to show him up for what he is.
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Post by werrington on May 5, 2014 7:09:09 GMT
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on May 5, 2014 7:09:48 GMT
Great article that helps to show him up for what he is. Yes a top, top manager who tries to take as much pressure as possible off his players. I love it when the anyone but Pulis brigade gets a story like this to wank over.
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Post by foxysgloves on May 5, 2014 7:28:50 GMT
You might not have been his biggest fan but surely he wouldn't have a dig at you in the national media??!!
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Post by werrington on May 5, 2014 7:31:40 GMT
You might not have been his biggest fan but surely he wouldn't have a dig at you in the national media??!! I see what you did there foxy ( smiley )
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 5, 2014 7:39:51 GMT
Wasn't Brentdon banging on about long balls and long throws and such like the other day. Most likely a response to that. Either way that's the first time I've actually seen a website that appears to be on its period.
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Post by blooter on May 5, 2014 7:42:00 GMT
Strange he's voted for Steve Bruce. Why doesn't he mention the fantastic job Mark Hughes has done at Stoke. Took over a club that had lost its way, splits in the dressing room and were favourites for the drop by most pundits.
Now possibly our best ever finish and scoring goals for fun. MH gets my vote.
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Post by yeswilko on May 5, 2014 7:46:11 GMT
You pair have got your pulis hating wank rags out early this morning.
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Post by chell_rosey on May 5, 2014 7:46:18 GMT
Strange he's voted for Steve Bruce. Why doesn't he mention the fantastic job Mark Hughes has done at Stoke. Took over a club that had lost its way, splits in the dressing room and were favourites for the drop by most pundits. Now possibly our best ever finish and scoring goals for fun. MH gets my vote. It IS strange, isn't it...
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Post by wuzza on May 5, 2014 7:47:02 GMT
Type of tripe you would expect from Liverpool gloryhunters - those of our own who choose to use it have a dig are being just a little bit sad.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 5, 2014 7:51:38 GMT
Strange he's voted for Steve Bruce. Why doesn't he mention the fantastic job Mark Hughes has done at Stoke. Took over a club that had lost its way, splits in the dressing room and were favourites for the drop by most pundits. Now possibly our best ever finish and scoring goals for fun. MH gets my vote. It IS strange, isn't it... Why is it strange that he voted for Steve Bruce?
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Post by stokemanusa on May 5, 2014 7:56:28 GMT
It IS strange, isn't it... Why is it strange that he voted for Steve Bruce? It's not, TP is a fan of longball. Hence the Hull nod.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 5, 2014 7:57:41 GMT
Why is it strange that he voted for Steve Bruce? It's not, TP is a fan of longball. Hence the Hull nod. Done a fine job Bruce has. I'd imagine their fans will enjoy their cup final a well.
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Post by stokemanusa on May 5, 2014 8:00:02 GMT
It's not, TP is a fan of longball. Hence the Hull nod. Done a fine job Bruce has. I'd imagine their fans will enjoy their cup final a well. True, but would he really promote his successor? Who delivered? I wouldn't even if it was mourinho and he took us to the champions league. lol
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 5, 2014 8:08:06 GMT
Done a fine job Bruce has. I'd imagine their fans will enjoy their cup final a well. True, but would he really promote his successor? Who delivered? I wouldn't even if it was mourinho and he took us to the champions league. lol I'd say that if he was asked a direct question he'd say Mark (and his team) had done a 'triffic job as he did in January when they beat us.
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Post by geoff321 on May 5, 2014 8:19:29 GMT
I'm not sure what the argument is here, but the job Pulis has done at Palace is amazing.
Taking a club over in the PL that had four points from eleven games, was not in a great state on and off the pitch, and then keeping them in the PL , must put him very close to manager of the season.
In fact he has achieved 1.56 points a game with Palace, which replicated over a season would have produced almost 60 points, virtually the same total that Liverpool achieved last season.
Regarding the hypocrite tag in relation to money spent at Stoke, it's interesting now to see on another thread how suddenly some of Tone's signings for Stoke, may in the eyes of some fans, actually have been pretty smart with the club potentially being able to sell a fair few players at a significant profit.
The debate about the style of play, the stubbornness of the man, his strict attitude to players etc, are legitimate arguments, but the statistics at Stoke and Palace show a marvellous record of achievement, peoples views and opinions fade away and our forgotten over time, but the history books are permanent.
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Post by elystokie on May 5, 2014 8:24:35 GMT
I'm not sure what the argument is here, but the job Pulis has done at Palace is amazing. Taking a club over in the PL that had four points from eleven games, was not in a great state on and off the pitch, and then keeping them in the PL , must put him very close to manager of the season. In fact he has achieved 1.56 points a game with Palace, which replicated over a season would have produced almost 60 points, virtually the same total that Liverpool achieved last season. Regarding the hypocrite tag in relation to money spent at Stoke, it's interesting now to see on another thread how suddenly some of Tone's signings for Stoke, may in the eyes of some fans, actually have been pretty smart with the club potentially being able to sell a fair few players at a significant profit. The debate about the style of play, the stubbornness of the man, his strict attitude to players etc, are legitimate arguments, but the statistics at Stoke and Palace show a marvellous record of achievement, peoples views and opinions fade away and our forgotten over time, but the history books are permanent. "I'm not sure what the argument is here" "The debate about the style of play, the stubbornness of the man, his strict attitude to players etc, are legitimate arguments" And you wonder why people take the piss...
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Post by Fred Ferret on May 5, 2014 8:37:59 GMT
Strange he's voted for Steve Bruce. Why doesn't he mention the fantastic job Mark Hughes has done at Stoke. Took over a club that had lost its way, splits in the dressing room and were favourites for the drop by most pundits. Now possibly our best ever finish and scoring goals for fun. MH gets my vote. Let's face it Bruce, Hughes, Martinez, Pulis and Rogers (even Poyet) have all managed beyond expectation - a difference being that, possibly, Martinez took on a team that was already performing at its level (5th ish). Any number of PL league clubs are capable of putting a cup run together but Hull and Sunderland have done well. If we're looking at PL then Rogers had achieved a fantastic points increase over last season - with a stunning buccaneering style of play. Pulis (early doors) and Poyet (on a blind side magnificent late run) have done fantastically well - no doubt. Hughes has steadily developed a squad (virtually shot in the 2nd half last season) and has them playing attractive and productive football. Difficult to choose - but for me, Brendan Rogers - although I could see why one of the others could be recognised.
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Post by OldStokie on May 5, 2014 9:16:25 GMT
Strange he's voted for Steve Bruce. Why doesn't he mention the fantastic job Mark Hughes has done at Stoke. Took over a club that had lost its way, splits in the dressing room and were favourites for the drop by most pundits. Now possibly our best ever finish and scoring goals for fun. MH gets my vote. Let's face it Bruce, Hughes, Martinez, Pulis and Rogers (even Poyet) have all managed beyond expectation - a difference being that, possibly, Martinez took on a team that was already performing at its level (5th ish). Any number of PL league clubs are capable of putting a cup run together but Hull and Sunderland have done well. If we're looking at PL then Rogers had achieved a fantastic points increase over last season - with a stunning buccaneering style of play. Pulis (early doors) and Poyet (on a blind side magnificent late run) have done fantastically well - no doubt. Hughes has steadily developed a squad (virtually shot in the 2nd half last season) and has them playing attractive and productive football. Difficult to choose - but for me, Brendan Rogers - although I could see why one of the others could be recognised. I agree. This isn't a time for Pulis-knocking. He's done fantastic at Palace; Hughes has completely changed around Stoke to an attractive side to watch and has been successful (by our standards) as well; Poyet has worked a miracle at the end of the season; Bruce's Hull mirror his tenacious attitude as a player; Martinez has done well but he did inherit a good side to start with and hasn't really improved Everton, but Rogers has turned a dog's dinner of a side into a side that is good enough to win this league. Rogers for me, and without reservations. OS.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 5, 2014 9:24:29 GMT
There have been many outstanding managerial performances in the Premier League but no outstanding candidate for the award in my view. If Hull won the cup, Bruce would have to be right up there.
If we were looking at the game as a whole though I would give it to Sean Dyche without any hesitation.
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