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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 16:23:56 GMT
No version for Linux Linux is shit.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Apr 17, 2014 20:39:23 GMT
No version for Linux Linux is shit. Then so are you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 20:53:14 GMT
How am I? Ubuntu is just a total waste of time. Unless you're licensing thousands of seats i'd really stay away from it. I do like the fact that the command line is well integrated though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 21:58:34 GMT
No flash for Aviator. Whats the best way round it?
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Apr 18, 2014 6:55:56 GMT
How am I? Ubuntu is just a total waste of time. Unless you're licensing thousands of seats i'd really stay away from it. I do like the fact that the command line is well integrated though. It talks to Android better than Windows. That's good enough for me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 5:31:11 GMT
In a genuine attempt not to kill the topic, but to backup a few things Santy said above ... Never mind which browser you are using, or which operating system, on which ever device ... Consider where the information you share - like an update to your public facebook, a tvvit, or one of Rob's Conclusions blogs - ends up. Once people have read it, does it just sit there, lonely and unused; forever a part of the great, unloved, digital archive? Nope ... It gets hoovered up and added to the global profile (facepuke, wordpress, tvvatter ... you name it, whichever you use ...) that is shared sold to lord knows how many worldwide companies, who would like to flog you product. gnip.com/Tvvatter bought that ^^^ lot and aim to make a packet, selling access to you - through your stuff - to business. And not just the stuff you put on Tvvatter. (and it's not just gnip doing it) That is a fraction of it, yes. And I don't much like the fact that this goes on. But to suggest that is all that happens to the data is to totally misrepresent the reality. The content of Robs "conclusions" is not vaguely interesting to the government agencies on it's own. However, when woven into a tapestry of Robs profile and when it's interconnected and triangulated, ie when it is in context (think like Google Plus), it may or may not become very interesting. Data has no meaning, it's just data. From the data we produce information. How the data is used is the thing to be concerned about. Not everybody wants to sell you a cordueroy jacket. Daft statement, **************. Aviator blocks data being sent. That is all it does. It has no filter - other than one you apply - to say it is OK to share data with X (because I want a corduroy jacket), but not with Y, because they send it on a postcard to Mr & Mrs Obama. Like installing and enabling 3 or 4 Firefox plugins. It breaks the way developers have chosen to code websites. Just like those plugins, it is still up to you who you trust with the data you ... leak ... if you want to use those sites. As santy has posted, you worry that they are watching everything you do, while accepting that using the Internet means allowing other people to know what you do. And that by doing so, you have no control over what happens to the data that you have leaked, never mind shared. The way developers have chosen to use the way the Internet works, means that usage data is shared. If I link a picture in this post <- like that ... Microsoft is sent data about your machine and potentially about you. You were already sending that data to Proboards and probably/possibly a bunch of other companies. * You can set your system/browser to limit the data - If you know what you are doing. * You can use plugins for your browser to further restrict what is sent * You can buy proxy services to even further restrict (virtually eliminate) any data leaking/sharing But, at each of those steps, you risk being unable to see the image I have posted.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 9:52:09 GMT
That is a fraction of it, yes. And I don't much like the fact that this goes on. But to suggest that is all that happens to the data is to totally misrepresent the reality. The content of Robs "conclusions" is not vaguely interesting to the government agencies on it's own. However, when woven into a tapestry of Robs profile and when it's interconnected and triangulated, ie when it is in context (think like Google Plus), it may or may not become very interesting. Data has no meaning, it's just data. From the data we produce information. How the data is used is the thing to be concerned about. Not everybody wants to sell you a cordueroy jacket. Daft statement, **************. Aviator blocks data being sent. That is all it does. It has no filter - other than one you apply - to say it is OK to share data with X (because I want a corduroy jacket), but not with Y, because they send it on a postcard to Mr & Mrs Obama. Like installing and enabling 3 or 4 Firefox plugins. It breaks the way developers have chosen to code websites. Just like those plugins, it is still up to you who you trust with the data you ... leak ... if you want to use those sites. As santy has posted, you worry that they are watching everything you do, while accepting that using the Internet means allowing other people to know what you do. And that by doing so, you have no control over what happens to the data that you have leaked, never mind shared. The way developers have chosen to use the way the Internet works, means that usage data is shared. If I link a picture in this post <- like that ... Microsoft is sent data about your machine and potentially about you. You were already sending that data to Proboards and probably/possibly a bunch of other companies. * You can set your system/browser to limit the data - If you know what you are doing. * You can use plugins for your browser to further restrict what is sent * You can buy proxy services to even further restrict (virtually eliminate) any data leaking/sharing But, at each of those steps, you risk being unable to see the image I have posted. As usual SFS you are about 18 months behind. You are talking about DNS leaks. Please, try to read up on the subject. What you knew 4 months ago no longer applies, and I reckon you're at least 3 years behind, maybe 5. You know zero about security. I also know that i'm right on that too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 1:08:47 GMT
Daft statement, **************. Aviator blocks data being sent. That is all it does. It has no filter - other than one you apply - to say it is OK to share data with X (because I want a corduroy jacket), but not with Y, because they send it on a postcard to Mr & Mrs Obama. Like installing and enabling 3 or 4 Firefox plugins. It breaks the way developers have chosen to code websites. Just like those plugins, it is still up to you who you trust with the data you ... leak ... if you want to use those sites. As santy has posted, you worry that they are watching everything you do, while accepting that using the Internet means allowing other people to know what you do. And that by doing so, you have no control over what happens to the data that you have leaked, never mind shared. The way developers have chosen to use the way the Internet works, means that usage data is shared. If I link a picture in this post <- like that ... Microsoft is sent data about your machine and potentially about you. You were already sending that data to Proboards and probably/possibly a bunch of other companies. * You can set your system/browser to limit the data - If you know what you are doing. * You can use plugins for your browser to further restrict what is sent * You can buy proxy services to even further restrict (virtually eliminate) any data leaking/sharing But, at each of those steps, you risk being unable to see the image I have posted. As usual SFS you are about 18 months behind. You are talking about DNS leaks. Please, try to read up on the subject. What you knew 4 months ago no longer applies, and I reckon you're at least 3 years behind, maybe 5. You know zero about security. I also know that i'm right on that too. Yes, but look on the bright side, ************** - You've been an education for us all, since you rocked up I've not mentioned DNS leaks? I'm talking about the usage data sent to Microsoft when you look at the image above. Not any kind of imagined stealth technology, dns poisoning or government espionage. Just that image, a few posts back. If you can see it - and possibly even if you cannot - some data about your visit was sent to Microsoft. Such data leaks happen almost every time you use the Internet. What I knew 20 years ago - never mind 5 months ago - still applies. The Internet is open by design. Many people once believed that was its greatest aspect ... I think people are starting to realise the opposite is probably true.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 1:41:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 9:08:16 GMT
Fuck sake Clifford....I've eaten all my Easter eggs before I finished reading your first post
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Apr 20, 2014 13:36:26 GMT
Fuck sake Clifford....I've eaten all my Easter eggs before I finished reading your first post Rubbish! ************** does not write overlong drawn out self indulgent posts, if you don't believe me ask Mick Mills.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 3:30:09 GMT
Fuck sake Clifford....I've eaten all my Easter eggs before I finished reading your first post Rubbish! ************** does not write overlong drawn out self indulgent posts, if you don't believe me ask Mick Mills. To be fair, ************** appears to make up many of his, himself. Millsy just copies and pastes
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 15:17:58 GMT
Rubbish! ************** does not write overlong drawn out self indulgent posts, if you don't believe me ask Mick Mills. To be fair, ************** appears to make up many of his, himself. Millsy just copies and pastes Look, i've tried to suggest that a new browser is available. That's it. Some posters have said "ta **************, i'll take a look". But you don't like it when somebody posts something that is outside of your knowledge or current thinking, so you take a real good look at it (for the first time), check the specs, and then make a few damning comments based upon what you managed to retain from a 20 year old CS degree. It then gets turned it into something personal because you're embarrassed that you know fuck all about it, and that it's actually missed your bows by a thousand miles. Perhaps you don't fail on a knowledge level, but on a personal level you really are missing huge chunks. What is your fucking problem? Whatever, I don't care if you hate it, fail to try and show an interest in things, show a degree of fallibility that makes us all human, or have any respect for other posters. Lose that ability and you just ending up sounding like one of the the biggest wankers or pricks on the planet. You get me? Read the OP, try the browser. Then comment.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Apr 22, 2014 15:59:17 GMT
To be fair, ************** appears to make up many of his, himself. Millsy just copies and pastes Look, i've tried to suggest that a new browser is available. That's it. Some posters have said "ta **************, i'll take a look". But you don't like it when somebody posts something that is outside of your knowledge or current thinking, so you take a real good look at it (for the first time), check the specs, and then make a few damning comments based upon what you managed to retain from a 20 year old CS degree. It then gets turned it into something personal because you're embarrassed that you know fuck all about it, and that it's actually missed your bows by a thousand miles. Perhaps you don't fail on a knowledge level, but on a personal level you really are missing huge chunks. What is your fucking problem? Whatever, I don't care if you hate it, fail to try and show an interest in things, show a degree of fallibility that makes us all human, or have any respect for other posters. Lose that ability and you just ending up sounding like one of the the biggest wankers or pricks on the planet. You get me? Read the OP, try the browser. Then comment. ...and breathe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 10:01:39 GMT
Look, i've tried to suggest that a new browser is available. That's it. Some posters have said "ta **************, i'll take a look". But you don't like it when somebody posts something that is outside of your knowledge or current thinking, so you take a real good look at it (for the first time), check the specs, and then make a few damning comments based upon what you managed to retain from a 20 year old CS degree. It then gets turned it into something personal because you're embarrassed that you know fuck all about it, and that it's actually missed your bows by a thousand miles. Perhaps you don't fail on a knowledge level, but on a personal level you really are missing huge chunks. What is your fucking problem? Whatever, I don't care if you hate it, fail to try and show an interest in things, show a degree of fallibility that makes us all human, or have any respect for other posters. Lose that ability and you just ending up sounding like one of the the biggest wankers or pricks on the planet. You get me? Read the OP, try the browser. Then comment. ...and breathe. You really are total penis. Breathe...OK then what? Linux is shit, from a users perspective it's primitive, then you said I was shit. Try the browser you useless t**t. There are more people who a lot more concerned about privacy than you seem to think. What's your problem? Stick with the thread, or do one.
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Post by iglugluk on Apr 24, 2014 11:33:34 GMT
As most of us are well aware these days, the internet isn't the reasonably secure place we thought it was just 12 months ago. 6 months ago I was hacked and my computers were essentially being administered by some faceless people in a far away land. Who knows who was behind that, but it screwed me over in a big way. .............. It looks as though some bright sparks at WhiteHat in California have delivered a new browser called Aviator to meet the needs of a good, security biased browser. It's based on Chromium, so it's very similar to Google Chrome, but without the horrendous data stream that Chrome relentlessly sends back to Google HQ. I've been using Aviator for a few days now, and I have to say I think it's bloody brilliant! When you install it, you'll notice that the security settings really are configured to be as hardened up compared to other browsers, as standard. It's available for Windows as well as Mac too. WhiteHat are pitching it as the most secure browser online. Download, install, forget. I'd recommend that you give it a try and we can discuss what people think later. Here's the link www.whitehatsec.com/aviator/Cheers for the info, **************. Browser seems pretty smooth in its functioning so far. How did you come across WhiteHat, btw? Seeing as you no longer like Apple what platform are you now running with?
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Apr 24, 2014 18:53:25 GMT
You really are total penis. Breathe...OK then what? Linux is shit, from a users perspective it's primitive, then you said I was shit. Try the browser you useless t**t. There are more people who a lot more concerned about privacy than you seem to think. What's your problem? Stick with the thread, or do one. ...and breathe.
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Post by starkiller on Apr 24, 2014 20:48:02 GMT
You should be exploring the deep web, despite the media's efforts to smear it as a paedophilia and terrorist playground.
It's not liked because it can't be tracked.
And when it can something else will be set up.
Viva la liberte!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 5:54:19 GMT
As most of us are well aware these days, the internet isn't the reasonably secure place we thought it was just 12 months ago. 6 months ago I was hacked and my computers were essentially being administered by some faceless people in a far away land. Who knows who was behind that, but it screwed me over in a big way. .............. It looks as though some bright sparks at WhiteHat in California have delivered a new browser called Aviator to meet the needs of a good, security biased browser. It's based on Chromium, so it's very similar to Google Chrome, but without the horrendous data stream that Chrome relentlessly sends back to Google HQ. I've been using Aviator for a few days now, and I have to say I think it's bloody brilliant! When you install it, you'll notice that the security settings really are configured to be as hardened up compared to other browsers, as standard. It's available for Windows as well as Mac too. WhiteHat are pitching it as the most secure browser online. Download, install, forget. I'd recommend that you give it a try and we can discuss what people think later. Here's the link www.whitehatsec.com/aviator/Cheers for the info, **************. Browser seems pretty smooth in its functioning so far. How did you come across WhiteHat, btw? Seeing as you no longer like Apple what platform are you now running with? There is a bit of story. Flash 13 fails to run properly on Mozilla 28 and Safari (on OS X 10.9), however, Google Chrome is unaffected because the browser tech it is based on uses Pepperflash - not Adobe Flash. So as i'm fairly reluctant to use Chrome for anything besides testing, I thought i'd have a look for another Chromium based browser and found Aviator. I'm using it now, it's fast, smooth and has good security straight out of the box. It's an easy solution - it's not the last word in security, nothing can be, but it's a step in the right direction. I like it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 5:55:07 GMT
You should be exploring the deep web, despite the media's efforts to smear it as a paedophilia and terrorist playground. It's not liked because it can't be tracked. And when it can something else will be set up. Viva la liberte! When you say deep web, which deep web are you talking about?
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Post by iglugluk on Apr 25, 2014 13:50:21 GMT
Cheers for the info, **************. Browser seems pretty smooth in its functioning so far. How did you come across WhiteHat, btw? Seeing as you no longer like Apple what platform are you now running with? There is a bit of story. Flash 13 fails to run properly on Mozilla 28 and Safari (on OS X 10.9), however, Google Chrome is unaffected because the browser tech it is based on uses Pepperflash - not Adobe Flash. So as i'm fairly reluctant to use Chrome for anything besides testing, I thought i'd have a look for another Chromium based browser and found Aviator. I'm using it now, it's fast, smooth and has good security straight out of the box. It's an easy solution - it's not the last word in security, nothing can be, but it's a step in the right direction. I like it. What are your thoughts on add-ons such as adblock and wot etc?...I notice aviator confirms that they are not protected as they save your personal info.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 12:47:44 GMT
To be fair, ************** appears to make up many of his, himself. Millsy just copies and pastes Look, i've tried to suggest that a new browser is available. That's it. Some posters have said "ta **************, i'll take a look". But you don't like it when somebody posts something that is outside of your knowledge or current thinking, so you take a real good look at it (for the first time), check the specs, and then make a few damning comments based upon what you managed to retain from a 20 year old CS degree. It then gets turned it into something personal because you're embarrassed that you know fuck all about it, and that it's actually missed your bows by a thousand miles. Perhaps you don't fail on a knowledge level, but on a personal level you really are missing huge chunks. What is your fucking problem? Whatever, I don't care if you hate it, fail to try and show an interest in things, show a degree of fallibility that makes us all human, or have any respect for other posters. Lose that ability and you just ending up sounding like one of the the biggest wankers or pricks on the planet. You get me? Read the OP, try the browser. Then comment. I did try it, 5 or 6 months ago when it was recommended I try it. Like I put earlier, it's the same as using Firefox (or Chrome) and a small set of plugins. All of which I used in a variety of situations and machines, on Firefox. I have no reason to trust any browser, or the organisation behind it. When I do, I will switch to that one. Until that comes along, I have always used Firefox and will continue to do so. I have no idea who or what is behind Aviator, regardless of the About page on their website, so I see no reason to switch to it from Firefox + plugins; it offers no new functionality. But that wasn't the point I made to your OP. My point - to be fair Santy's original point that I backed up - was that far more is leaked intentionally by many people (who fail to understand what is collected by whom and then distributed to where) than is stopped by browsers/plugins who prevent the unintentional leak of small amounts of often anonymous - and useless - data. ... But then none of that explains why* you are - on this particular occasion - upset at me and the bad-example-setting Mr Out, having a cheap dig at a previous post of yours to Dear Ol' Millsy? * Although - given a couple of subsequent comments made by the said Bad-Example-Setter - it's possible you're pregnant and I've heard that's a b*gger for the hormone balance?
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Apr 26, 2014 13:06:06 GMT
Look, i've tried to suggest that a new browser is available. That's it. Some posters have said "ta **************, i'll take a look". But you don't like it when somebody posts something that is outside of your knowledge or current thinking, so you take a real good look at it (for the first time), check the specs, and then make a few damning comments based upon what you managed to retain from a 20 year old CS degree. It then gets turned it into something personal because you're embarrassed that you know fuck all about it, and that it's actually missed your bows by a thousand miles. Perhaps you don't fail on a knowledge level, but on a personal level you really are missing huge chunks. What is your fucking problem? Whatever, I don't care if you hate it, fail to try and show an interest in things, show a degree of fallibility that makes us all human, or have any respect for other posters. Lose that ability and you just ending up sounding like one of the the biggest wankers or pricks on the planet. You get me? Read the OP, try the browser. Then comment. I did try it, 5 or 6 months ago when it was recommended I try it. Like I put earlier, it's the same as using Firefox (or Chrome) and a small set of plugins. All of which I used in a variety of situations and machines, on Firefox. I have no reason to trust any browser, or the organisation behind it. When I do, I will switch to that one. Until that comes along, I have always used Firefox and will continue to do so. I have no idea who or what is behind Aviator, regardless of the About page on their website, so I see no reason to switch to it from Firefox + plugins; it offers no new functionality. But that wasn't the point I made to your OP. My point - to be fair Santy's original point that I backed up - was that far more is leaked intentionally by many people (who fail to understand what is collected by whom and then distributed to where) than is stopped by browsers/plugins who prevent the unintentional leak of small amounts of often anonymous - and useless - data. ... But then none of that explains why* you are - on this particular occasion - upset at me and the bad-example-setting Mr Out, having a cheap dig at a previous post of yours to Dear Ol' Millsy? * Although - given a couple of subsequent comments made by the said Bad-Example-Setter - it's possible you're pregnant and I've heard that's a b*gger for the hormone balance?You're quite right, (about setting a bad example rather than **************'s unlikely pregnancy), I said it in jest, but something stopped me removing the comment. Perhaps it's the way that our creative friend occasionally rides rough-shot over others with opposing views.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 13:11:16 GMT
I did try it, 5 or 6 months ago when it was recommended I try it. Like I put earlier, it's the same as using Firefox (or Chrome) and a small set of plugins. All of which I used in a variety of situations and machines, on Firefox. I have no reason to trust any browser, or the organisation behind it. When I do, I will switch to that one. Until that comes along, I have always used Firefox and will continue to do so. I have no idea who or what is behind Aviator, regardless of the About page on their website, so I see no reason to switch to it from Firefox + plugins; it offers no new functionality. But that wasn't the point I made to your OP. My point - to be fair Santy's original point that I backed up - was that far more is leaked intentionally by many people (who fail to understand what is collected by whom and then distributed to where) than is stopped by browsers/plugins who prevent the unintentional leak of small amounts of often anonymous - and useless - data. ... But then none of that explains why* you are - on this particular occasion - upset at me and the bad-example-setting Mr Out, having a cheap dig at a previous post of yours to Dear Ol' Millsy? * Although - given a couple of subsequent comments made by the said Bad-Example-Setter - it's possible you're pregnant and I've heard that's a b*gger for the hormone balance?You're quite right, (about setting a bad example rather than **************'s unlikely pregnancy), I said it in jest, but something stopped me removing the comment. Perhaps it's the way that our creative friend occasionally rides rough-shot over others with opposing views. I liked the pregnancy excuse better
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 20:15:21 GMT
There is a bit of story. Flash 13 fails to run properly on Mozilla 28 and Safari (on OS X 10.9), however, Google Chrome is unaffected because the browser tech it is based on uses Pepperflash - not Adobe Flash. So as i'm fairly reluctant to use Chrome for anything besides testing, I thought i'd have a look for another Chromium based browser and found Aviator. I'm using it now, it's fast, smooth and has good security straight out of the box. It's an easy solution - it's not the last word in security, nothing can be, but it's a step in the right direction. I like it. What are your thoughts on add-ons such as adblock and wot etc?...I notice aviator confirms that they are not protected as they save your personal info. I have used Disconnect (which is what Aviator uses from the get go) on Firefox OS X before now and to be honest it's hard to quantify, in any meaningful way, how much "protection" if that's the right word, any of these plug-ins or add-ons actually give. Before using Aviator, I was pretty much using Firefox with NoScript - which you really can ramp up, to the point of a hopeless browsing experience, if you want to, Ghostery and Adblocker. There's also stuff you can do to Firefox in its About:config screen. I try not to use Java wherever possible but it's needed for Adobe's Creative Cloud and my Cloud Cams, so I have to roll with it. The issue I have with Firefox running on OS X is that it feels dated and it's noticably slower than Google Chrome - we're only talking split seconds here, but it's definitely noticable - and it's that speed, or rather the speed of the Chromium browser technology which is, like Firefox, an Open Source project. The primary difference between the two technologies (besides Chromium being faster) is that Firefox actually generates it's own revenue through Google's online advertising, they're never as upfront about that as they should be, so they're not actually as holy and pure as perhaps they would like you to think. They are one of the big four and Mozilla too are after your data, no matter what you think. Google simply hangs its hat on being fast, to make people switch. I can't really say how Firefox performs in the Windows environment but I believe it's better than the Mac but still off the pace. I also don't like messing around with Flash and Adobe one bit. That's why I like this Aviator browser. It uses a trusted Open Source development platform - Chromium, and it's fast. It's actually the fastest Mac browser i've used to date. And here's the thing...Aviator is the first major browser to put the customers privacy at the top of the development pile, not it's own ambition to harvest your data for a sale like Chrome, Firefox, IE9 and Safari. In that respect it really is an important step in the right direction, although I have to say that the internet is inherently insecure and no browser running HTML can guarantee genuine privacy and security except for maybe Tor, and as long you don't exit the Onion network on an NSA server - of which there are many. Only time will tell if WhiteHat Inc., are as good as their word. I have no reason to doubt them and Little Snitch confirms this. On to utility/security conscious apps for OS X. There are two apps I simply have to run on my Mac, because they are so damned good. The first is Little Snitch. If you want to see which servers you are connected too, Little Snitch shows them all very clearly in real time and gives you the option to block or continue. When you see the amount of server connections you're hitting with Chrome and also with the running processes on OS X, you begin to understand the sheer volume of data harvesting that these two companies gorge on every day. It's no wonder we have new security updates so regularly - it's madness. So anything that keeps me to Port 80 or thereabouts is positive for me. I think its about £40UK for the year. A bit confusing at first, as you just don't know what all those strangely titled processes or servers do - and that is the point, they don't want you to know, but you'll get Googling and find out. Well worth it. The second is Onyx, which is free. This really is a potent piece of software. It has command line power in a GUI. The makers state that you can supposedly screw things up if you take it too far, although that has never been my experience. Think of it as a deep cleanser, the deepest cleanser by some way. It also has many useful utilities like being able to start your machine single user mode, show invisible files (easier said than done in Mavericks) and directories, plus loads of disk management and permissions repair. It's hardcore. I always use a VPN, without exception. PIA works really well. Notable mentions also go to AppTrap which is a little utility that deletes all the files associated to a program (when you drag it to the bin), not just the installation folder - so it's a root and branch approach. It sits in the Control Panel silently, it's also free. For email i'm sold on AirMail. In my opinion, this is email done right for the Mac, I just don't care for Apple's standard OS X email. Airmail is £1.99 on the App store. Then it's a case of hardening up your Control Panel settings from their defaults. Not quite as straightforward as you may think. I'm never surprised how often these setting seem to change themselves, even when locked-down. Keep your eye on the Control Panel.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 20:28:51 GMT
You really are total penis. Breathe...OK then what? Linux is shit, from a users perspective it's primitive, then you said I was shit. Try the browser you useless t**t. There are more people who a lot more concerned about privacy than you seem to think. What's your problem? Stick with the thread, or do one. ...and breathe. Sorry RBO, i've been having a difficult week, now i'm making everyone else's week difficult. I do apologise for my rather impatient and dismissive tone.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 20:37:10 GMT
Look, i've tried to suggest that a new browser is available. That's it. Some posters have said "ta **************, i'll take a look". But you don't like it when somebody posts something that is outside of your knowledge or current thinking, so you take a real good look at it (for the first time), check the specs, and then make a few damning comments based upon what you managed to retain from a 20 year old CS degree. It then gets turned it into something personal because you're embarrassed that you know fuck all about it, and that it's actually missed your bows by a thousand miles. Perhaps you don't fail on a knowledge level, but on a personal level you really are missing huge chunks. What is your fucking problem? Whatever, I don't care if you hate it, fail to try and show an interest in things, show a degree of fallibility that makes us all human, or have any respect for other posters. Lose that ability and you just ending up sounding like one of the the biggest wankers or pricks on the planet. You get me? Read the OP, try the browser. Then comment. I did try it, 5 or 6 months ago when it was recommended I try it. Like I put earlier, it's the same as using Firefox (or Chrome) and a small set of plugins. All of which I used in a variety of situations and machines, on Firefox. I have no reason to trust any browser, or the organisation behind it. When I do, I will switch to that one. Until that comes along, I have always used Firefox and will continue to do so. I have no idea who or what is behind Aviator, regardless of the About page on their website, so I see no reason to switch to it from Firefox + plugins; it offers no new functionality. But that wasn't the point I made to your OP. My point - to be fair Santy's original point that I backed up - was that far more is leaked intentionally by many people (who fail to understand what is collected by whom and then distributed to where) than is stopped by browsers/plugins who prevent the unintentional leak of small amounts of often anonymous - and useless - data. ... But then none of that explains why* you are - on this particular occasion - upset at me and the bad-example-setting Mr Out, having a cheap dig at a previous post of yours to Dear Ol' Millsy? * Although - given a couple of subsequent comments made by the said Bad-Example-Setter - it's possible you're pregnant and I've heard that's a b*gger for the hormone balance?It's not actually as straightforward as you've described it. In fact there is a fundamental difference in approach. All the other browsers, including Firefox, harvest data or chase advertising revenues money through Googles advertising. All these browsers have a primary focus to make a profit through selling to you or selling your data. That's at the top of the development pile. Aviator is different because it seeks to put your privacy first. It's really that simple and so it is a step in the right direction. Firefox really is an old lump of a thing these days. Time for a change Grandad. Apologies for the terse tone previously. I'm a cunt this week.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Apr 26, 2014 20:50:57 GMT
Sorry RBO, i've been having a difficult week, now i'm making everyone else's week difficult. I do apologise for my rather impatient and dismissive tone. No need for an apology, I've been a bit of a Fraiser too
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Post by Timmypotter on Apr 27, 2014 10:18:16 GMT
Closed source - think I'll give it a miss.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 20:16:50 GMT
Closed source - think I'll give it a miss. You could do a lot worse things with your time. It's a shame because the technology really is accelerating away from the understanding or interest of most competent and bright citizens. And where the US Tech giants are taking it, really isn't a place that has your best interests at heart. They want to squeeze the $$$ out of you. The technology is now so deeply complex and fragmented, just to get involved in iOS7 or KitKat you sign up for a quite sweeping loss of privacy and unintelligable legalese, melded with rather sharp practice. It's all motivated by share price and the web is actually becoming the very opposite of what the internet pioneers recognised as the true potential for the internet to empower the human condition. And i'm not referring to the NSA or GCHQ here, i'm talking about the way Microsoft, Google and Apple have more recently behaved without really applying due care and consideration for the inhabitants of planet earth. I know it's always been a battle for market share with these US tech giants but I really am completely underwhelmed and saddened to see where we have arrived with these companies and what their revenue based philosophies for the internet have delivered to us in 2014. Whenever someone talks smartphones, I now feel just slightly sick. It's a worry. The web was a great and woundrous thing 10 years back, it's a different animal these days, caged and piebald like a sad old Lion in a zoo. As users we really have been witnesses to an increasing and gradual year-on-year moral and cultural failing that has ended up in you and I being regarded as "earning potential" - simply unimportant and disrespected enough to have our privacy invaded through deep data plundering, all going on without anyone actually being sure what it is that we are getting involved in, and with the companies themselves dressing it all up as web based convenience. That's not really emerging as a decent way to think about fellow citizens, let alone behave in this enlightened world. Well it was enlightened, but it's not so easy to get the honest and truthful answers that we all loved about Google, just a few years back. It's being stage managed i'm afraid. Somehow, we crossed a line a few years back when the hardware started to become so powerful and Google started imagining a company that limitless power in numbers and the potential in those numbers to generate revenue for shareholders, and more recently to govern and monitor, ultimately to control. Take a look at the number of former Google founders and Directors now permanently installed in the Whitehouse. Whilst I don't essentially have a problem with the US, the Whitehouse or former Google employees, i'm not so sure that Googles vision for the future of all mankind is all that it's cracked up to be. I keep thinking that there has to be a better approach, one that won't drive further chasm's of division on this planet, between the haves and the have nots. Whilst Google's shareholders have been very pleased with their investments, it's been a slow, shallow downhill journey for the rest of us web users, but hey! Left unchecked, that's where capitalism ultimately takes us, and I really don't know what can be done to fix it. And make no mistake, we are all heading into a future that's already mapped out for us. A future that has it's roots in, well...not being terribly honest about it's past, it's a place where huge control and hugely important societal decisions are being wrought by a tiny minority of individuals, who really do wield far too much power. I'd urge anyone to think carefully about your next smartphone, tablet or laptop purchase. There really is significantly more going on inside and around those really sexy gadgets than we are all so taken with. As I mentioned, I got banned from the iOS App Store for 90 days because I changed my Apple ID twice... That renders the device useless in Apples walled garden. I couldn't even download the Apps I had already purchased over the years. After finally coming off the phone to Apple "support" for 3 hours, with them basically unable or unwilling to do anything, even though i've been a loyal Mac customer and a company director which used Apple Mac's exclusively (when they could actually do something that nothing else on the planet could), I was incandescent with rage, I felt totally betrayed. I grabbed the the fucking idiot thing and bent it round my knee, with shards of Gorilla glass popping and cracking, I dropped the useless knee-curved bastard into the wastebasket in a single fluid move and ventured off to the pub. It's now Day six sans iPad and i'm still feeling very liberated by the whole experience, oddly, without any remorse whatsoever. True, everyone else thinks i'm a complete psycho, i'm not, really i'm not. We don't actually need these machines to do all the things that we don't use them for. There are some genuinely useful apps about, that's true, but ultimately a smartphone, iPad is really just your personal statement of modernity, and we certainly should not covet the device itself like raging hairdressers fighting over the last pair of £300 gold Gucci slippers. I'm no Luddite but give me a bag of Cheese and Onion crisps or a plank of hardwood to look at, full of detail and character, any day of the week. Me and Apple finishing will certainly be quite a surprise to anyone that knows anything about me. It's also been six months since I stopped carrying my £12 Tesco mobile too. I don't miss it, and nobody has complained that i'm uncontactable to date. Not one single person. Funny that.
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