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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 14:35:32 GMT
As most of us are well aware these days, the internet isn't the reasonably secure place we thought it was just 12 months ago. 6 months ago I was hacked and my computers were essentially being administered by some faceless people in a far away land. Who knows who was behind that, but it screwed me over in a big way. Things have actually calmed down now for me, but the internet and in particular Apple are two things that I really no longer recognise as being really great things, as I once did. In fact Apple are a steaming pile of shit as far as I can see. They no longer carry the core values that made them so good for all those years. Because I changed my Apple ID once too often (because I got hacked thanks to their non existent security) I now have a 90 day ban on using the App store. Who do these fuckers think they are?Over the last 18 months I have also been chopping and changing my browser. The standard Apple browser in OS X and iOS is called Safari, and it's fine. But like Google Chrome it really does destroy any sense of privacy we may think we have. All our browsing habits are recorded...and in the case of Safari it all goes back to Apple. But it works well most of the time, but you can't really modify it - its an Apple product and it lives within the walled gardens of of iOS or OS X. Google Chrome is a really great browser, very fast and based on Chromium browser technology. But like Apple's Safari all your web info gets sent straight back to Google - but more so. Google really are data freaks. However there are plug-ins that can tame its appetite for data gathering, but in truth it can never really be stopped. It's a spy in the cab. Then there's Mozilla Firefox, it's a true Open Source success and a jolly decent thing, but it feels a bit cranky on OS X and you need loads of plug-ins, all correctly setup so that the browsing experience is acceptable when you crank the security side of things up. Firefox's big advantage is that it is far more private than the other two, Mozilla respect your privacy but they really are third when it comes to the overall browsing experience. Then there's the whole issue of Flash. Both Safari and Mozilla need Flash to render video on sites like the BBC. Apple is at war with Flash's makers - Adobe, so they don't care if it doesn't work, they want Flash to fail. Mozilla is also dependent on Flash but also on the hardware vendors like Apple and Google too, so they always get a rough deal, because they care about the user, but they are the piggy in the middle. And just to prove that point version 13 of Flash does not work with the latest version of Safari or Mozilla on the latest Apple OS's. It's a really annoying state of affairs. However, old clever clogs Google doesn't use Flash, it has it's own version of the technology called PepperFlash which is built into Chrome - it does exactly the same thing as Flash, but it actually works. So for the last few days I've been forced back to using Chrome, and it is a very good browser, I just don't like the lack of privacy that you sign up for when you use the damned thing. So I thought i'd have a quick look around the web to see if there was another browser available...a fourth way, as it were. And there was... It looks as though some bright sparks at WhiteHat in California have delivered a new browser called Aviator to meet the needs of a good, security biased browser. It's based on Chromium, so it's very similar to Google Chrome, but without the horrendous data stream that Chrome relentlessly sends back to Google HQ. I've been using Aviator for a few days now, and I have to say I think it's bloody brilliant! When you install it, you'll notice that the security settings really are configured to be as hardened up compared to other browsers, as standard. It's available for Windows as well as Mac too. WhiteHat are pitching it as the most secure browser online. Download, install, forget. I'd recommend that you give it a try and we can discuss what people think later. Here's the link www.whitehatsec.com/aviator/ |
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Apr 16, 2014 15:11:48 GMT
I have downloaded it ************** seems to be clean and simple browser. Is it as safe as it claims, But I will use it over the next few days. I will get Back and let you know.
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 16, 2014 15:12:32 GMT
************** This makes me really glad I don't have a clue what you are talking about . I don't think I could live with this level of paranoia  |
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Post by santy on Apr 16, 2014 16:25:33 GMT
************** This makes me really glad I don't have a clue what you are talking about . I don't think I could live with this level of paranoia I do understand, and the level of paranoia makes me feel a great deal of sympathy for **************. 99% of us are of no interest or worth to those dabbling in the more seedy things in life, be that government agencies, credit card theft etc. Anything they receive of ours is likely to pass through their hands without a second glance. On the other hand, if you do attract the attention of these groups for anything specific, your choice of browser isn't going to really help out. Neither is your firewall, nor what operating system you have or even the way you re-write your registries to prevent conventional measures from working. Nutters from the Church of Scientology can do a good enough job harassing people online and digging through their information when they become a target, so professionals would piss all over that. |
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Apr 16, 2014 16:32:45 GMT
************** This makes me really glad I don't have a clue what you are talking about . I don't think I could live with this level of paranoia I do understand, and the level of paranoia makes me feel a great deal of sympathy for **************. 99% of us are of no interest or worth to those dabbling in the more seedy things in life, be that government agencies, credit card theft etc. Anything they receive of ours is likely to pass through their hands without a second glance. On the other hand, if you do attract the attention of these groups for anything specific, your choice of browser isn't going to really help out. Neither is your firewall, nor what operating system you have or even the way you re-write your registries to prevent conventional measures from working. Nutters from the Church of Scientology can do a good enough job harassing people online and digging through their information when they become a target, so professionals would piss all over that. So I have wasted my time downloading it then Santy.  |
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Post by santy on Apr 16, 2014 16:39:45 GMT
If you like the browser, by all means use it, it may stop sites getting the odd detail that they sell on for a few pence which results in you getting some spam e-mails but that's about it. You give away more information using facebook irrespective of browser than pretty much anything else.
If you're involved in stuff that is likely to attract the attention of the US government via the NSA and you're doing it from a home computer then you're incredibly stupid. Just using the internet as an average person, visiting your average sites (including whatever variety of porn you wish) any information held on you would never get a second glance.
Listening in on Angela Merkels calls is far more beneficial to the US than what we're discussing here on this thread.
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 16, 2014 16:55:15 GMT
************** This makes me really glad I don't have a clue what you are talking about . I don't think I could live with this level of paranoia I do understand, and the level of paranoia makes me feel a great deal of sympathy for **************. 99% of us are of no interest or worth to those dabbling in the more seedy things in life, be that government agencies, credit card theft etc. Anything they receive of ours is likely to pass through their hands without a second glance. On the other hand, if you do attract the attention of these groups for anything specific, your choice of browser isn't going to really help out. Neither is your firewall, nor what operating system you have or even the way you re-write your registries to prevent conventional measures from working. Nutters from the Church of Scientology can do a good enough job harassing people online and digging through their information when they become a target, so professionals would piss all over that. As the old saying goes just because he's paranoid it doesn't mean the bastards aren't out to get him |
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Apr 16, 2014 16:55:50 GMT
If you like the browser, by all means use it, it may stop sites getting the odd detail that they sell on for a few pence which results in you getting some spam e-mails but that's about it. You give away more information using facebook irrespective of browser than pretty much anything else. If you're involved in stuff that is likely to attract the attention of the US government via the NSA and you're doing it from a home computer then you're incredibly stupid. Just using the internet as an average person, visiting your average sites (including whatever variety of porn you wish) any information held on you would never get a second glance. Listening in on Angela Merkels calls is far more beneficial to the US than what we're discussing here on this thread. Thanks. I am highly delighted that the porn web sites they don't give a second look to. Well I give them more, WELL WE WON'T GO INTO THAT RIGHT NOW.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 1:15:24 GMT
In short Apple are a really cleaver company who take other peoples technology paint it orange or bright green and sell it, they have created an image so big that most people think they can't manage without them.
Perhaps they are right but I will never forgive them for taking over Napster.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 4:23:36 GMT
In a genuine attempt not to kill the topic, but to backup a few things Santy said above ... Never mind which browser you are using, or which operating system, on which ever device ... Consider where the information you share - like an update to your public facebook, a tvvit, or one of Rob's Conclusions blogs - ends up. Once people have read it, does it just sit there, lonely and unused; forever a part of the great, unloved, digital archive? Nope ... It gets hoovered up and added to the global profile (facepuke, wordpress, tvvatter ... you name it, whichever you use ...) that is shared sold to lord knows how many worldwide companies, who would like to flog you product. gnip.com/Tvvatter bought that ^^^ lot and aim to make a packet, selling access to you - through your stuff - to business. And not just the stuff you put on Tvvatter. (and it's not just gnip doing it) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 4:46:04 GMT
************** This makes me really glad I don't have a clue what you are talking about . I don't think I could live with this level of paranoia I do understand, and the level of paranoia makes me feel a great deal of sympathy for **************. 99% of us are of no interest or worth to those dabbling in the more seedy things in life, be that government agencies, credit card theft etc. Anything they receive of ours is likely to pass through their hands without a second glance. On the other hand, if you do attract the attention of these groups for anything specific, your choice of browser isn't going to really help out. Neither is your firewall, nor what operating system you have or even the way you re-write your registries to prevent conventional measures from working. Nutters from the Church of Scientology can do a good enough job harassing people online and digging through their information when they become a target, so professionals would piss all over that. Santy, I really think you are missing the point mate. If you go to the WhiteHat site and read the detail there is some very well framed information regarding what your average browser is actually designed for (that's harvesting personal information primarily) and what it reveals about you as an individual (pretty much everything). I'd really like you to read that and then come back and comment, because what you are saying is not actually based on fact. I'm not saying this Aviator browser is the be all and end all - the internet is insecure per se - but it seems as though it will definitely reduce the risk of becoming a target for the huge number of cyber-criminal gangs. These people are very patient and monitor individuals over years before emptying bank accounts - even if it's just a few hundred quid. How do these gangs know who you are? By your user agent (that's your browser) and its unique configuration - it's like your fingerprint no two are the same. This is due to all the cookie info, browser history, fonts and numerous other settings browsers need to send all that information back to Google HQ. Criminal gangs can easily intercept and exploit this information. For me anything that makes my browsing more secure and more private is worthwhile, given the fact that we are so vulnerable to online crime. You wouldn't sleep with someone that you knew had a dose unless you wore a condom would you? Same rules apply for the web in 2014. Just out of interest, what browser do you use and how do you have your internet access configured? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 5:02:15 GMT
If you like the browser, by all means use it, it may stop sites getting the odd detail that they sell on for a few pence which results in you getting some spam e-mails but that's about it. You give away more information using facebook irrespective of browser than pretty much anything else. If you're involved in stuff that is likely to attract the attention of the US government via the NSA and you're doing it from a home computer then you're incredibly stupid. Just using the internet as an average person, visiting your average sites (including whatever variety of porn you wish) any information held on you would never get a second glance. Listening in on Angela Merkels calls is far more beneficial to the US than what we're discussing here on this thread. The old "if you're not doing anything wrong then you've nothing to fear" argument is totally missing the point by a thousand miles. That is simply not what is under discussion here but being as you have bought it up again, i'll chip in with my usual. It's like this: GCHQ and the NSA have a long term strategy to monitor and record all comms globally 24/7/365 ie. everyone on this planet.
Some technology analysts believe that these agencies have already achieved their goal within the developed world. If true, that means, whatever you do, wherever you go, whatever you say, who you say it to, who you text and what you write, wherever you point your browser, your Google searches and your known IP addresses are already being monitored round the clock. That's the 100% de facto reality. Santy, to state that only Angela Merkel is of interest shows a total lack of any understanding into this subject. You shouldn't be commenting on this stuff if that's your view. These agencies are deeply interested in all of us, not just heads of state, particularly if we are doing something they do not like or do not approve of. Put simply you don't have to be breaking the law to gain attention. You could be in the same pub as a suspected terrorist or an Islamic fundamentalist (or MinnietheMooch). Your smartphones Wi-Fi picks up on their smartphone Wi-Fi and Bingo!, you become a suspect through Wi-Fi proximity. But who defines the laws? God only knows. Who sets them? Who defines how these incredibly powerful and rich data sets on each of us may be used, not just today, but in particular the future? Well, it's not a democratically elected body, that's for sure. Let's cross our fingers and hope they use them for good, right? The mistake most people make is that they assume the technology to keep all of us under very tight focus, all at the same time, does not yet exist. Well, I have some bad news for you lot. It certainly does exist and it gets more powerful as each week passes, as the algorithms become increasingly refined and new algorithms are developed for specific tasks. You could just be an incapacity benefit claimant painting a house, well here's a new algorithm that looks specifically for you lot. So why is this? For years, the justification narrative used by the US government is "Well, we need 1.5 million NSA agents and this Trillion dollar data warehouse to catch child pornographers, terrorists and cyber-criminals etc". In truth, the Whitehouse has very little say in what the NSA does as it's a military body conducting top secret operations. It was said that General Keith Alexander, the former NSA supremo, was the most powerful individual on the entire planet. How can you regulate, or force a military body that's running top secret military operations to be more transparent? You can't. Whilst I totally agree that the pursuit of terrorist, paedophiles, drug importers etc. is important work (I don't actually think that government spying is wrong), we find ourselves in a situation where every single person on the planet is now under suspicion. It would seem that the baby has been thrown out with the bathwater. This what is some critics of the policy refer to as the militarisation of the internet.
In the pursuit of anonymous internet users the NSA and GCHQ have clumsily destroyed our privacy. In the US, through secret NSA work, mandated by unconstitutional lawmaking, they have forced private US companies such as Google, Apple and Microsoft into writing "back doors" in their proprietary software, whilst gagged by law. It is only a matter of time before the more advanced criminal gangs find these "back doors" and effectively give themselves similar powers as the NSA and GCHQ in relation to mass access to an entire nations PC's. Read up on the Patriot Act. people.howstuffworks.com/patriot-act.htmSimilarly sinister are the advances made in firmware control and the chipset manufacturers, again we see US companies forced to comply by law and subject to the same gagging orders as the software giants. Radio technology has been developed more in the last 5 years than ever before - however, these days the new advances in radio tech. are pretty much top secret. Want to see through walls? Try Wi-Vi... people.csail.mit.edu/fadel/wivi/No Wi-Fi? No problem. These devices can communicate sonically. Think this is a joke? arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/meet-badbios-the-mysterious-mac-and-pc-malware-that-jumps-airgaps/The average laptop has around 13 ways to communicate with other nearby devices. You probably know about Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. The rest are not on the spec. sheets. It is estimated that the NSA are 10 years ahead of academia in this technology. 10 years? That's because the NSA hire only A/A+ graduates from all over the world, every single year. Then, there's the wonderfully named "internet of things" - fridges and microwaves with processors, proximity sensors, Wi-Fi. They can send emails too. Freezers that can read the RFID tag on Tesco Value Beefburgers, so you get an email from the Health and Environment agency when it's out of date, and then another from Tesco to tell you they have offers on Value Beefburgers. But is that really what this is all about? As a static device, maybe they can say for sure, maybe in a court of law, if you are in or out. Astute political commentators such as Noam Chomsky (Emeritus Professor at MIT) now argue that the governments criminal pursuit narrative is a smokescreen for the real goal of global societal control. If that does turn out to be a correct analysis then the whole thing is anti-democratic, highly illegal and totally immoral. Chomsky says of the US government and the NSA: "Governments should not have this capacity. But governments will use whatever technology is available to them to combat their primary enemy – which is their own population."What is very clear is that the next war will initially be carried out using computer code, that's for sure - maybe you've already heard of Stuxnet. If not, read this article on how the NSA shut down and permanently damaged an Iranian nuclear powerplant using code. www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/world/middleeast/obama-ordered-wave-of-cyberattacks-against-iran.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0So how does this affect us? The reason I bang on about it is because I believe that we have a right to personal privacy (that's not the same as anonymity). I also believe that if you don't take this stuff reasonably seriously then you really are giving away a part of your birthright through sheer ignorance - our freedom is what our forefathers fought in wars for. That exact same freedom that is being contested today, you may not yet see it because it seems different - it's a fight that is being fought in a totally different way. However, the principle remains the same - the oppressor and the oppressed. Can you imagine what an extreme Christian US government could do with this information? The big point is that we simply don't know what is around the corner. What we do know is that this data is being collected, rinsed, made meta and slotted into the bigger picture somewhere. I'd rather it not. Back on topic, in relation to the new Aviator browser, I think it may improve your level of protection from online gangs, i'm only making a suggestion. It amazes me how many self proclaimed "experts" on here simply don't understand the subject or take the issues remotely seriously. Let's keep the debate positive and please keep it real. I'm also trying to backup what I say with solid references. Incidentally Santy, I did actually get to the bottom of the hacking 6 months back, and it wasn't the NSA. But I can tell you it really is the single most difficult and unpleasant experience I have ever had to deal with. Even if you're one of those people that quote the old Obama/Google mantra of "if you're not doing anything wrong then you've nothing to fear" then even by your own admission, what you actually have to fear is who will be defining the "wrong" in 10 years time. We already lost democracy...so good luck to you. Noam Chomsky on the "If you're doing nothing wrong..." argument. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 5:23:51 GMT
Thanks for this **************.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 5:53:25 GMT
In a genuine attempt not to kill the topic, but to backup a few things Santy said above ... Aaah, the return of....ThreadKiller  |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Apr 17, 2014 6:12:36 GMT
In a genuine attempt not to kill the topic, but to backup a few things Santy said above ... Never mind which browser you are using, or which operating system, on which ever device ... Consider where the information you share - like an update to your public facebook, a tvvit, or one of Rob's Conclusions blogs - ends up. Once people have read it, does it just sit there, lonely and unused; forever a part of the great, unloved, digital archive? Nope ... It gets hoovered up and added to the global profile (facepuke, wordpress, tvvatter ... you name it, whichever you use ...) that is shared sold to lord knows how many worldwide companies, who would like to flog you product. gnip.com/Tvvatter bought that ^^^ lot and aim to make a packet, selling access to you - through your stuff - to business. And not just the stuff you put on Tvvatter. (and it's not just gnip doing it) Thanks Andy, I don't need to follow this thread anymore.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 7:02:00 GMT
In a genuine attempt not to kill the topic, but to backup a few things Santy said above ... Never mind which browser you are using, or which operating system, on which ever device ... Consider where the information you share - like an update to your public facebook, a tvvit, or one of Rob's Conclusions blogs - ends up. Once people have read it, does it just sit there, lonely and unused; forever a part of the great, unloved, digital archive? Nope ... It gets hoovered up and added to the global profile (facepuke, wordpress, tvvatter ... you name it, whichever you use ...) that is shared sold to lord knows how many worldwide companies, who would like to flog you product. gnip.com/Tvvatter bought that ^^^ lot and aim to make a packet, selling access to you - through your stuff - to business. And not just the stuff you put on Tvvatter. (and it's not just gnip doing it) That is a fraction of it, yes. And I don't much like the fact that this goes on. But to suggest that is all that happens to the data is to totally misrepresent the reality. The content of Robs "conclusions" is not vaguely interesting to the government agencies on it's own. However, when woven into a tapestry of Robs profile and when it's interconnected and triangulated, ie when it is in context (think like Google Plus), it may or may not become very interesting. Data has no meaning, it's just data. From the data we produce information. How the data is used is the thing to be concerned about. Not everybody wants to sell you a cordueroy jacket. |
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Post by santy on Apr 17, 2014 9:08:35 GMT
**************, even if they are monitoring every single thing, every click we make... what difference does it make? Whether it happens or not, it makes no difference. This silly, desperate notion of privacy people have... if some bloke is sat there getting paid to keep tabs on me after I fell asleep watching an episode of walking dead I downloaded last night then fair play, I'm more interesting than I thought.
It's only the delusion of self importance that gives you any reason to worry. I don't mean that offensively either despite its rather brash undertones, its only natural for people to think more highly of themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:17:53 GMT
In a genuine attempt not to kill the topic, but to backup a few things Santy said above ... Never mind which browser you are using, or which operating system, on which ever device ... Consider where the information you share - like an update to your public facebook, a tvvit, or one of Rob's Conclusions blogs - ends up. Once people have read it, does it just sit there, lonely and unused; forever a part of the great, unloved, digital archive? Nope ... It gets hoovered up and added to the global profile (facepuke, wordpress, tvvatter ... you name it, whichever you use ...) that is shared sold to lord knows how many worldwide companies, who would like to flog you product. gnip.com/Tvvatter bought that ^^^ lot and aim to make a packet, selling access to you - through your stuff - to business. And not just the stuff you put on Tvvatter. (and it's not just gnip doing it) That is a fraction of it, yes. And I don't much like the fact that this goes on. But to suggest that is all that happens to the data is to totally misrepresent the reality. The content of Robs "conclusions" is not vaguely interesting to the government agencies on it's own. However, when woven into a tapestry of Robs profile and when it's interconnected and triangulated, ie when it is in context (think like Google Plus), it may or may not become very interesting. Data has no meaning, it's just data. From the data we produce information. How the data is used is the thing to be concerned about. Not everybody wants to sell you a cordueroy jacket. Pity ....I would love a new corduroy jacket , mine is showing more than a few signs of its age |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:19:42 GMT
If you like the browser, by all means use it, it may stop sites getting the odd detail that they sell on for a few pence which results in you getting some spam e-mails but that's about it. You give away more information using facebook irrespective of browser than pretty much anything else. If you're involved in stuff that is likely to attract the attention of the US government via the NSA and you're doing it from a home computer then you're incredibly stupid. Just using the internet as an average person, visiting your average sites (including whatever variety of porn you wish) any information held on you would never get a second glance. Listening in on Angela Merkels calls is far more beneficial to the US than what we're discussing here on this thread. Thanks. I am highly delighted that the porn web sites they don't give a second look to. Well I give them more, WELL WE WON'T GO INTO THAT RIGHT NOW. Why are we not surprised Okie . |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:23:04 GMT
**************, even if they are monitoring every single thing, every click we make... what difference does it make? Whether it happens or not, it makes no difference. This silly, desperate notion of privacy people have... if some bloke is sat there getting paid to keep tabs on me after I fell asleep watching an episode of walking dead I downloaded last night then fair play, I'm more interesting than I thought. It's only the delusion of self importance that gives you any reason to worry. Like I said Santmeister, read the WhiteHat FAQ first. Can you do that? It will take you 3 minutes. Here's the link www.whitehatsec.com/aviator/ |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:33:06 GMT
That is a fraction of it, yes. And I don't much like the fact that this goes on. But to suggest that is all that happens to the data is to totally misrepresent the reality. The content of Robs "conclusions" is not vaguely interesting to the government agencies on it's own. However, when woven into a tapestry of Robs profile and when it's interconnected and triangulated, ie when it is in context (think like Google Plus), it may or may not become very interesting. Data has no meaning, it's just data. From the data we produce information. How the data is used is the thing to be concerned about. Not everybody wants to sell you a cordueroy jacket. Pity ....I would love a new corduroy jacket , mine is showing more than a few signs of its age Come on Bish what is your opinion on this? Minnie told me that you only wear blazers too. Like Michael Caine, you have been in and out of fashion 6 times since 1967... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:33:45 GMT
************** This makes me really glad I don't have a clue what you are talking about . I don't think I could live with this level of paranoia It's perfectly understandable mate .....it's just not worth the worry and concern of normal internet users such as me and you and the almost every one else on forums such as this and every other aspect of the internet ....however I do use the term " normal " loosely as there are always a few exceptions to the rule knocking around ...  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:45:52 GMT
Pity ....I would love a new corduroy jacket , mine is showing more than a few signs of its age Come on Bish what is your opinion on this? Minnie told me that you only wear blazers too. Like Michael Caine, you have been in and out of fashion 6 times since 1967... I haven't really got an opinion on this ************** , it's not a subject that I give much thought to . I do tend to favour the old hush puppies in the footwear line , but Michael and myself have ditched the blazers these days for a more " grizzled " look Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAnd I love 1967 ! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:46:59 GMT
************** This makes me really glad I don't have a clue what you are talking about . I don't think I could live with this level of paranoia It's perfectly understandable mate .....it's just not worth the worry and concern of normal internet users such as me and you and the almost every one else on forums such as this and every other aspect of the internet ....however I do use the term " normal " loosely as there are always a few exceptions to the rule knocking around ... So you and Harry are basically giving up? F***ing useless pair. I noticed Richie Barker gave up earlier too. At least Okie's with me. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:50:09 GMT
Anyway, i've just sent the missus out on the motorbike to find a decent yellow curry with some shrimp rice. Bollocks to you all  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:54:37 GMT
Just downloaded it, what's the difference between this and Google Chrome?
Does seem faster.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:58:18 GMT
It's perfectly understandable mate .....it's just not worth the worry and concern of normal internet users such as me and you and the almost every one else on forums such as this and every other aspect of the internet ....however I do use the term " normal " loosely as there are always a few exceptions to the rule knocking around ... So you and Harry are basically giving up? F***ing useless pair. I noticed Richie Barker gave up earlier too. At least Okie's with me.  No need for that ************** ! I haven't given up on your cause and neither has Harry ! If you need us we will be there with you side by side on Crusade .... And there is always Okie as well ... Attachment DeletedP.S. Harry is the one with a brim around his helmet ... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:59:17 GMT
Anyway, i've just sent the missus out on the motorbike to find a decent yellow curry with some shrimp rice. Bollocks to you all Good ! I like Cashew nuts in mine too ! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 10:32:49 GMT
Just downloaded it, what's the difference between this and Google Chrome? Does seem faster. It's based on the open source Chromium browser which Google Chrome uses as its base browser technology. It's open source too. Chromium is the technology. Google Chrome uses the Chromium base tech and then adds in loads of monitoring tools, then rebrands it as its own tech. Ben, use it for a few days and let us know how it works and how you get on with it. |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Apr 17, 2014 13:07:01 GMT
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No need for that ************** ! I haven't given up on your cause and neither has Harry ! If you need us we will be there with you side by side on Crusade .... 
