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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 7, 2014 13:11:50 GMT
...so basically, he was saying that he was pissed off that he wasn't getting a game and was critical about the lack of squad rotation but didn't pass any opinion on TP's overall abilities? Doesn't matter what you say, well not when it's as deeply ingrained into some. Wow! Did I just get called a PHW????
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 7, 2014 13:16:38 GMT
Player plays regularly - thinks manager is ace. Player does not play - thinks manager is shit. Even the most clueless of tools must surely understand that. And here's another pearl of wisdom - Jerome is utter dog shit. Said player would normally not say both those things in the same season though. That's just a bit thick. But I agree, he is shit.
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Post by thebet365 on Apr 7, 2014 13:17:35 GMT
£16 million a season just sounded up the wall and nothing to show for it at all. Not even any saleable assets or anything. Absolute fcuking diddly squat did Pulis ever bring into the club, fcuking diddly. Pulis did a lot for this club, however he completely lost the plot after the FA Cup final, he made a lot of very costly mistakes with the majority of the players he bought onto the club, if as you appear to believe that he bought well how come the owners have posted over £30 million in losses ?, would we cover our losses by selling our assets possibly but we would not see much profit, I honestly believe that if had not been sacked he would have put the financial stability of the club in danger in the long term. Whilst I think he was making costly mistakes at the time, I wouldn't say long term they've been costly. Crouch - Been Value for money Palacios - Waste of money Adam - Value for money Jerome - gamble that hasn't paid off, weighed in with a couple of important goals though. May still get most of our money back N Zonzi - Value for money Butland - Value for money Kightly - Waste of money Geoff - Value for money Edu - just WTF? Ness - gamble failed He's had plenty of bad buys over the years, the problem for me was he didn't utilise what he'd got properly in the last season here. But most of the big money spent are still part of our team now.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 7, 2014 13:37:58 GMT
Player not getting games - not happy with manager. Player getting games - more than happy with manager.
Shocker.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 13:41:07 GMT
this is how you deal with it and how CJ should have in the first place.......
"Stoke City midfielder Steven N'Zonzi has admitted he found it difficult to be left out of the side in recent weeks.
N'Zonzi returned to the starting line-up for Saturday's win over Arsenal after missing all of the Potters' games in February following his sending off against Sunderland.
It was the first time that the Frenchman found himself out of the starting XI since making his debut in September 2012 and reports suggested the 25-year-old was unhappy with Mark Hughes' decision and was considering a move away from the Britannia Stadium.
N'Zonzi admits that he was frustrated at losing his starting spot in the side and that he held talks with Hughes about his situation.
"I'm not going to lie, it hasn't been easy for me," said N'Zonzi.
"But I have played many games, so I was a little bit tired, and there are also many good players at Stoke. You have to be quiet, wait your turn and keep working hard.
"It was not easy for me because every football player wants to play every game, but you cannot because there is competition and other good players who can play.
"That's how it is. That's football. You have to carry on and learn from it, and I think I have learnt from it.
"I spoke to Mark Hughes a little and he said he was being fair to all the players, and he has been.
"They did well against Man United and well after that.
"He's the manager, he makes the decisions and even if you're not really happy about that, there is nothing you can do about it other than keep on working hard."
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Post by nononsense on Apr 7, 2014 13:56:11 GMT
SSNChanged his idea of Pulis or looking for a transfer? Im sure he would say that about any manager as long as he was letting him play. When Jerome was a t Stoke Pulis never let him play so he had bad words for him. At Palace he lets him play so they are in love !
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Post by coachragnar on Apr 7, 2014 14:22:42 GMT
Its really rather simple, a win-win for everyone! 1. Mark Hughes is doing fine at Stoke 2. Tony Pulis is doing fine at Palace 3. The Stoke supporters who hated Pulis have him gone. 4. The Palace supporters who love Pulis have him there. 5. The whiners who always know more than everyone else about how to manage can't complain!
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 7, 2014 14:29:42 GMT
Pulis did a lot for this club, however he completely lost the plot after the FA Cup final, he made a lot of very costly mistakes with the majority of the players he bought onto the club, if as you appear to believe that he bought well how come the owners have posted over £30 million in losses ?, would we cover our losses by selling our assets possibly but we would not see much profit, I honestly believe that if had not been sacked he would have put the financial stability of the club in danger in the long term. Whilst I think he was making costly mistakes at the time, I wouldn't say long term they've been costly. Crouch - Been Value for money- Really £10million Palacios - Waste of money- Agree £8millionn Adam - Value for money- Not sure jury still out for many. Jerome - gamble that hasn't paid off, weighed in with a couple of important goals though. May still get most of our money back- No chance N Zonzi - Value for money - great player suspect DNA Butland - Value for money - Jury still out Kightly - Waste of money - Agree Geoff - Value for money - Agree Edu - just WTF? - Strangest signing Ever total waste of money. Ness - gamble failed - Agree He's had plenty of bad buys over the years, the problem for me was he didn't utilise what he'd got properly in the last season here. But most of the big money spent are still part of our team now. Add to good buys: Huth, Etherington, Beattie, Faye, Bego. & Wilson Now Try These: Arismendi Soares Tongue Olifanjana Collins Davies Tuncay Shea Owen Gudjohnson Kitson Whitehead Carew What would you say about the value in this list ?, all managers make mistakes on signings but that does look like an awfull lot of deadwood, no wonder he was sacked.
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Post by thebet365 on Apr 7, 2014 14:59:36 GMT
Whilst I think he was making costly mistakes at the time, I wouldn't say long term they've been costly. Crouch - Been Value for money- Really £10million Palacios - Waste of money- Agree £8millionn Adam - Value for money- Not sure jury still out for many. Jerome - gamble that hasn't paid off, weighed in with a couple of important goals though. May still get most of our money back- No chance N Zonzi - Value for money - great player suspect DNA Butland - Value for money - Jury still out Kightly - Waste of money - Agree Geoff - Value for money - Agree Edu - just WTF? - Strangest signing Ever total waste of money. Ness - gamble failed - Agree He's had plenty of bad buys over the years, the problem for me was he didn't utilise what he'd got properly in the last season here. But most of the big money spent are still part of our team now. Add to good buys: Huth, Etherington, Beattie, Faye, Bego. & Wilson Now Try These: Arismendi Soares Tongue Olifanjana Collins Davies Tuncay Shea Owen Gudjohnson Kitson Whitehead Carew What would you say about the value in this list ?, all managers make mistakes on signings but that does look like an awfull lot of deadwood, no wonder he was sacked. Arismendi - Failure Soares - Failure but didn't cost much in the scheme of things Tongue - See above Olifanjana - Got our money back Collins - Waste of money Davies - See Soares Tuncay - Got our money back Shea - Really don't think this is a TP signing Owen - Waste of money Gudjohnson - Waste of money Kitson - Thought it was a good signing at the time, I won't hold this against TP Whitehead - Decent servant, just overpayed for him Carew - Wasn't he just a loan ? don't think he cost us much I agree he wasted money, but most of that list are players from the earlier years not the last 2. His more recent signings were good players he just couldn't evolve his tactics with the team. That's why he had to go for me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 16:00:00 GMT
Doesn't matter what you say, well not when it's as deeply ingrained into some. Wow! Did I just get called a PHW???? Folk can categorise themselves, hence the word 'some'.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 16:25:22 GMT
Nice to see that John Obi Mikel Tongue still gets his name spelt incorrectly on here, it's as if he never went away. I like Wilson Fellatio.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 7, 2014 16:59:33 GMT
Add to good buys: Huth, Etherington, Beattie, Faye, Bego. & Wilson Now Try These: Arismendi Soares Tongue Olifanjana Collins Davies Tuncay Shea Owen Gudjohnson Kitson Whitehead Carew What would you say about the value in this list ?, all managers make mistakes on signings but that does look like an awfull lot of deadwood, no wonder he was sacked. Arismendi - Failure Soares - Failure but didn't cost much in the scheme of things Tongue - See above Olifanjana - Got our money back Collins - Waste of money Davies - See Soares Tuncay - Got our money back Shea - Really don't think this is a TP signing Owen - Waste of money Gudjohnson - Waste of money Kitson - Thought it was a good signing at the time, I won't hold this against TP Whitehead - Decent servant, just overpayed for him Carew - Wasn't he just a loan ? don't think he cost us much I agree he wasted money, but most of that list are players from the earlier years not the last 2. His more recent signings were good players he just couldn't evolve his tactics with the team. That's why he had to go for me. It would be interesting to carry out a profit and loss excercise on the players he bought into the club since we have been in the Prem., factoring in all payments etc. plus sell on values of the players he bought in who are still here, worrying that the owners have posted a £30 million + loss even with the TV money comming into the equation that is one big black hole to be filled.
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Post by Bombus on Apr 8, 2014 10:12:17 GMT
What of, Jerome or this thread. Jerome the sprinter!
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