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Post by hcstokey on Apr 3, 2014 18:40:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 18:45:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 18:45:58 GMT
Ooooooeerrrrr.....I thought for a minute there he was one of those illegal fragrants....PHEW !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 18:47:04 GMT
Ji Dong-won
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 3, 2014 18:47:21 GMT
Ooops, what's the normal punishment for this, loss of points?
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Post by brumstokie on Apr 3, 2014 18:48:15 GMT
Shame they're not Wet Sham - just be a fine.
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Post by ohbottom on Apr 3, 2014 18:49:30 GMT
In one respect it is fortunate for them they only got 1 point in the matches he played in, the draw at Soton. Wonder if that match will be forfeited and Soton get given 2 points?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 18:51:32 GMT
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Post by kingstokie on Apr 3, 2014 19:01:18 GMT
"Fucking hell, we might get relegated!!!"
19th. Few games left. Chance of point deduction. And the deluded ones have FINALLY twigged that they might, just MIGHT get relegated.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 19:02:15 GMT
"Fucking hell, we might get relegated!!!" 19th. Few games left. Chance of point deduction. And the deluded ones have FINALLY twigged that they might, just MIGHT get relegated. They're playing "the right way" though.
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Post by MadMarko10 on Apr 3, 2014 19:10:23 GMT
"Sunderland immediately confessed and were fined under-radar by the Premier League board in December."
They've already been punished so nothing else should happen. However, the next paragraph does raise a decent point..
"Although it is understood that the fine is substantial, fellow relegation strugglers will believe that the integrity of the Premier League has been questioned."
Any team that gets relegated could actually go all out with this and go for a points deduction, therefore relegating Sunderland and saving themselves (depending on who goes down).
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Post by unknown182 on Apr 3, 2014 19:14:13 GMT
Liquidise the bastards!.. Or dock some points or something
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 3, 2014 19:16:17 GMT
A fine shouldn't be enough, surely.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Apr 3, 2014 19:16:42 GMT
"Sunderland immediately confessed and were fined under-radar by the Premier League board in December."They've already been punished so nothing else should happen. However, the next paragraph does raise a decent point.. "Although it is understood that the fine is substantial, fellow relegation strugglers will believe that the integrity of the Premier League has been questioned."Any team that gets relegated could actually go all out with this and go for a points deduction, therefore relegating Sunderland and saving themselves (depending on who goes down). Didn't help Sheffield United did it.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 3, 2014 19:27:40 GMT
"Sunderland immediately confessed and were fined under-radar by the Premier League board in December."
WTF is that all about? "Give us some cash and we won't mention this to anyone, wink, wink" ??
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Post by march4 on Apr 3, 2014 19:49:31 GMT
This also brings the League Cup into disrepute. MK Dons have a genuine cause for complaint.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Apr 3, 2014 19:52:57 GMT
So fishpaste what's going on
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Post by Clayton Wood on Apr 3, 2014 20:00:06 GMT
So it's all dealt with on the quiet they think. Then as London based teams are drawn into a relegation battle with them the story breaks 4 months later in a London based national paper...
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 3, 2014 20:02:45 GMT
Pwingy likes this
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 3, 2014 20:03:51 GMT
I bet most Mackems wish a few more weren't eligible to play. How's that song go they sing...all their shit players they sell them to Stoke? Looks like they've kept the shit ones this season. I suppose their relegation will be our fault for not signing players off them? We managed to stay up with their cast offs though.
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Post by brumstokie on Apr 3, 2014 20:05:27 GMT
So it's all dealt with on the quiet they think. Then as London based teams are drawn into a relegation battle with them the story breaks 4 months later in a London based national paper... It's ok, FA not concerned, no West Ham involvement here - move on.
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Post by windsor on Apr 3, 2014 20:20:18 GMT
what a disgrace both the Premier League and FA are.....heads should roll at both organisations.
i'm pretty sure Bradford were expelled from the FA Cup a few years back for playing an ineligible player....talk about double standards
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Post by mailman44 on Apr 3, 2014 20:20:30 GMT
Scandalous? Or quid pro quo, Clarisse?
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Post by siggy on Apr 3, 2014 20:43:32 GMT
This is what Poyet said when it happened to him at Brighton
Brighton boss Gus Poyet feels his side should be awarded three points after Hartlepool were charged with fielding an ineligible player against them.
Gary Liddle played in Pools' 2-0 League One victory at Victoria Park on Easter Monday when he should have been serving a two-match ban.
Poyet told his club's official website: "I am sure Hartlepool did not realise he was suspended. It was not a case of cheating, but they made a mistake and that player should not have been on the pitch so the three points should go to the opposition.
"They cannot just deduct the points from Hartlepool. For the sake of fair competition we should be awarded them. All teams play 46 games in a season so it would be unfair if we only played 45 matches.
"The Football League has to be careful with the decision they make. It does not matter if they did it with intention or not, the only decision they can make in this instance - and I would say the same if my team were the guilty party - is to give the three points to the opposition."
Brighton manager Gus Poyet insists his side should have been awarded the points Hartlepool were deducted for fielding an ineligible player when the two clubs clashed last month.
Pools received the three-point deduction last week for playing Gary Liddle in the 2-0 win over Poyet's side despite the fact that the midfielder should have been suspended and the Uruguayan believes the Seagulls should have been given the points.
"Had it happened in Spain, Italy or France or any other league in the world we would have automatically awarded the game either 2-0 or 3-0 - with no need for a decision from the league," he told the Northern Echo.
"Here in England we have to wait for a decision. Then when that decision comes it is one which leaves the game in this country open to ridicule.
"In my opinion it's totally wrong. The points mean nothing to us, we are safe, we can not be promoted, we don't need the points.
"It is a matter of principle and for the sake of integrity of the Premiership, Football League or even the Football Conference or lower."
Do you think he will feel the same now?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Apr 3, 2014 20:57:08 GMT
No points deduction according to the Beeb.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 3, 2014 21:03:21 GMT
This is what Poyet said when it happened to him at Brighton Brighton boss Gus Poyet feels his side should be awarded three points after Hartlepool were charged with fielding an ineligible player against them. Gary Liddle played in Pools' 2-0 League One victory at Victoria Park on Easter Monday when he should have been serving a two-match ban. Poyet told his club's official website: "I am sure Hartlepool did not realise he was suspended. It was not a case of cheating, but they made a mistake and that player should not have been on the pitch so the three points should go to the opposition. "They cannot just deduct the points from Hartlepool. For the sake of fair competition we should be awarded them. All teams play 46 games in a season so it would be unfair if we only played 45 matches. "The Football League has to be careful with the decision they make. It does not matter if they did it with intention or not, the only decision they can make in this instance - and I would say the same if my team were the guilty party - is to give the three points to the opposition." Brighton manager Gus Poyet insists his side should have been awarded the points Hartlepool were deducted for fielding an ineligible player when the two clubs clashed last month. Pools received the three-point deduction last week for playing Gary Liddle in the 2-0 win over Poyet's side despite the fact that the midfielder should have been suspended and the Uruguayan believes the Seagulls should have been given the points. "Had it happened in Spain, Italy or France or any other league in the world we would have automatically awarded the game either 2-0 or 3-0 - with no need for a decision from the league," he told the Northern Echo. "Here in England we have to wait for a decision. Then when that decision comes it is one which leaves the game in this country open to ridicule. "In my opinion it's totally wrong. The points mean nothing to us, we are safe, we can not be promoted, we don't need the points. "It is a matter of principle and for the sake of integrity of the Premiership, Football League or even the Football Conference or lower." Do you think he will feel the same now? The only problem is, I think they only got one point in the games he played
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Post by greyman on Apr 4, 2014 4:01:37 GMT
Yet another fatal blow for those who argue that the authorities don't just make 'rules' up as they go along. They should have been kicked out of the League Cup (so no Wembley final) and deducted the points they won while he was playing, pathetically only one. I think it's safe to say that the Premier League would have done this if they were safely in mid-table, but decided given their relegation battle they would rather pretend it wasn't happening.
The precedent is set. If you're struggling, field who you like and take the fine.
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Post by Northy on Apr 4, 2014 6:00:36 GMT
what a disgrace both the Premier League and FA are.....heads should roll at both organisations. i'm pretty sure Bradford were expelled from the FA Cup a few years back for playing an ineligible player....talk about double standards And the League for not kicking them out of the League cup. Quite appalling by the respective boards to let this go and keep it quiet.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 4, 2014 6:17:28 GMT
I wonder what justification the authorities have for keeping this quiet for so long? Surely there is no valid reason for not immediately publishing the facts about the breach of the rules and the (ridiculously light) punishment meted out?
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Post by Linx on Apr 4, 2014 6:25:22 GMT
Financial penalties are pretty lightweight against a Premier League club, they can recoup the loss easily. It irks me how we see penniless, traditional old clubs from unfashionable towns getting points docked, or fined in excess pf their income, or being wound up because of a tax bill that amounts to less than an average premier league player's income - just because they are in a lower league. Has a Premier League club ever had points docked, especially at this crucial point in the season?
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