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Post by block27row27 on Apr 2, 2014 8:36:51 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Apr 2, 2014 8:41:43 GMT
dave on arsenal :-)
Arsenal's wheels have finally fallen off. It happens at roughly the same time each year. Where other top teams seem to become stronger during the run-in, Arsenal tend to go to pieces.
It prompted manager Arsene Wenger to say that his greatest achievement as Arsenal manager was relocating to the Emirates Stadium and keeping the club solvent.
It certainly was a phenomenal achievement because it meant that the Gunners had to qualify for the Champions League every year until the debt was reduced to manageable levels.
In that sense, Wenger was competitive, but the gap to the Premier League title is still as far away as it has been since they last won it. Arsenal may be solvent but, with "Financial Fair Play" rules coming in, they may struggle for years to catch up with the rest of the elite who stole a march during that time.
The other reason they may struggle is because they still cannot deal with teams that are overly physical with them.
With one Premier League team I played for, we tried to fight fire with fire and play them at their own game. The result was that we were absolutely "tampered with", which is a saying in the game that basically means we were beaten out of sight.
But at another club I played for, the game plan was simple: kick them. During that time, our record was outstanding against the Gunners. They hated playing against us and you could see the fear in the tunnel on the faces of Aaron Ramsey and, in particular, Theo Walcott.
We employed every trick in the book. We muscled past our opposite numbers in the tunnel, we shook their hands aggressively before the game started.
If there was a ball to be won, it was won in the most aggressive way possible. And when we scored, you made sure that you screamed in the ear of the opposition player who was closest to you after the ball had gone in.
Now, let me add a disclaimer here. If I were a manager, I would not play this way, even though it works. I am a purist at heart and my dream would be to build a team that could beat Arsenal in a football match, not a war.
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 2, 2014 9:03:59 GMT
dave on arsenal :-) Arsenal's wheels have finally fallen off. It happens at roughly the same time each year. Where other top teams seem to become stronger during the run-in, Arsenal tend to go to pieces. It prompted manager Arsene Wenger to say that his greatest achievement as Arsenal manager was relocating to the Emirates Stadium and keeping the club solvent. It certainly was a phenomenal achievement because it meant that the Gunners had to qualify for the Champions League every year until the debt was reduced to manageable levels. In that sense, Wenger was competitive, but the gap to the Premier League title is still as far away as it has been since they last won it. Arsenal may be solvent but, with "Financial Fair Play" rules coming in, they may struggle for years to catch up with the rest of the elite who stole a march during that time. The other reason they may struggle is because they still cannot deal with teams that are overly physical with them. With one Premier League team I played for, we tried to fight fire with fire and play them at their own game. The result was that we were absolutely "tampered with", which is a saying in the game that basically means we were beaten out of sight. But at another club I played for, the game plan was simple: kick them. During that time, our record was outstanding against the Gunners. They hated playing against us and you could see the fear in the tunnel on the faces of Aaron Ramsey and, in particular, Theo Walcott. We employed every trick in the book. We muscled past our opposite numbers in the tunnel, we shook their hands aggressively before the game started. If there was a ball to be won, it was won in the most aggressive way possible. And when we scored, you made sure that you screamed in the ear of the opposition player who was closest to you after the ball had gone in. Now, let me add a disclaimer here. If I were a manager, I would not play this way, even though it works. I am a purist at heart and my dream would be to build a team that could beat Arsenal in a football match, not a war. Interesting that. Must admit I never noticed us screaming at them when we scored or aggressively shaking their hands. Being honest I find it hard to imagine Dave Kitson getting aggressive in any way, shape or form. A hint of artistic license being employed here if it is indeed El Gingero and Stoke.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 9:56:48 GMT
dave on arsenal :-) Arsenal's wheels have finally fallen off. It happens at roughly the same time each year. Where other top teams seem to become stronger during the run-in, Arsenal tend to go to pieces. It prompted manager Arsene Wenger to say that his greatest achievement as Arsenal manager was relocating to the Emirates Stadium and keeping the club solvent. It certainly was a phenomenal achievement because it meant that the Gunners had to qualify for the Champions League every year until the debt was reduced to manageable levels. In that sense, Wenger was competitive, but the gap to the Premier League title is still as far away as it has been since they last won it. Arsenal may be solvent but, with "Financial Fair Play" rules coming in, they may struggle for years to catch up with the rest of the elite who stole a march during that time. The other reason they may struggle is because they still cannot deal with teams that are overly physical with them. With one Premier League team I played for, we tried to fight fire with fire and play them at their own game. The result was that we were absolutely "tampered with", which is a saying in the game that basically means we were beaten out of sight. But at another club I played for, the game plan was simple: kick them. During that time, our record was outstanding against the Gunners. They hated playing against us and you could see the fear in the tunnel on the faces of Aaron Ramsey and, in particular, Theo Walcott. We employed every trick in the book. We muscled past our opposite numbers in the tunnel, we shook their hands aggressively before the game started. If there was a ball to be won, it was won in the most aggressive way possible. And when we scored, you made sure that you screamed in the ear of the opposition player who was closest to you after the ball had gone in. Now, let me add a disclaimer here. If I were a manager, I would not play this way, even though it works. I am a purist at heart and my dream would be to build a team that could beat Arsenal in a football match, not a war. Interesting that. Must admit I never noticed us screaming at them when we scored or aggressively shaking their hands. Being honest I find it hard to imagine Dave Kitson getting aggressive in any way, shape or form. A hint of artistic license being employed here if it is indeed El Gingero and Stoke. rather than it being a hint of artistic license i think it's more like a huge load of bullshit!! he only played for us once against Arsenal and that was when he came on in the very last minute in 2008...he wouldn't have been lining up in the tunnel, wouldn't have been shaking hands on the pitch and wasn't even on the pitch to scream in anyone's ear. for a man who never even played 100 games in the Prem, he seems to bang on an awful lot about his Premiership experience and years facing the big boys whenever he gets the chance....he's the ginger equivalent of Scott Minto who likes to trade off the fact that he used to play for Chelsea and thinks it will impress people because of how good they are nowadays but neglects to tell people it was back when they were mediocre! then again, he probably wouldn't have much a column if when he was hired they actually asked him about his extensive experience "So Dave, did you play much in the Prem?" "Not massively no" "Oh well when you did, did you play lots for your teams?" "Not really no" "Oh...well i presume you scored hatfuls being a striker yeah?" "Erm, no not really" "Doesn't matter...all you have to do is allude to Premiership teams a lot and people reading will then think you're a seasoned Prem player who knows all about everything, doesn't matter if it's all bullshit though "
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 14:38:00 GMT
How many times did Kitson play against Arsenal for us ?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 2, 2014 15:05:13 GMT
Im so glad he gives us him own opinion of being a footballing purist if he were a manager.
Thanks Dave now get back to stacking shelves in purist form.
I thought the guy was quite intelligent but reading some of those blogs he writes like a 16 year old Grade C at english.
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Post by pyrus on Apr 2, 2014 15:16:52 GMT
Where was all the manly aggression when he was flouncing off down the tunnel with his bottom lip curled because he'd been subbed.
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Post by onionman on Apr 2, 2014 16:01:43 GMT
"If I were a manager, I would not play this way, even though it works. I am a purist at heart and my dream would be to build a team that could beat Arsenal in a football match, not a war."
What a prat.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Apr 2, 2014 18:00:17 GMT
Should this guy ever become a manager (can't see it), I sincerely hope he makes a better fist of it than he did as a player. Has to be the biggest waste of big money, I've ever seen in a Stoke shirt. And the mere thought of him "muscling" his way past opposition and "aggressively" doing anything curls me up with laughter.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 18:13:38 GMT
He comes across as what he is. A mouthy shit that just likes to question authority. That's why he never made it to the top as a player and why he'll never be a successful manager.
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Post by onionman on Apr 2, 2014 18:55:11 GMT
Should this guy ever become a manager (can't see it), I sincerely hope he makes a better fist of it than he did as a player. Has to be the biggest waste of big money, I've ever seen in a Stoke shirt. And the mere thought of him "muscling" his way past opposition and "aggressively" doing anything curls me up with laughter. As a manager, Kitson would be a weird cross between Tony Mowbray, Barry Bullshitter and Russ Abbott's ginger Scottish character.
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 2, 2014 19:25:43 GMT
How many times did Kitson play against Arsenal for us ? Not many which probably explains our good record against them.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Apr 2, 2014 19:32:24 GMT
he's the ginger equivalent of Scott Minto Love it. I did like this bit from Kits: "But, every now and again, there is a little nugget that gives me a nice warm glow inside and, last weekend, it came when John Terry headed into his own net..."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 20:47:44 GMT
In other news, Dave Kitson's a talent-less ginger bellend!
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 2, 2014 21:13:06 GMT
dave on arsenal :-) Arsenal's wheels have finally fallen off. It happens at roughly the same time each year. Where other top teams seem to become stronger during the run-in, Arsenal tend to go to pieces. It prompted manager Arsene Wenger to say that his greatest achievement as Arsenal manager was relocating to the Emirates Stadium and keeping the club solvent. It certainly was a phenomenal achievement because it meant that the Gunners had to qualify for the Champions League every year until the debt was reduced to manageable levels. In that sense, Wenger was competitive, but the gap to the Premier League title is still as far away as it has been since they last won it. Arsenal may be solvent but, with "Financial Fair Play" rules coming in, they may struggle for years to catch up with the rest of the elite who stole a march during that time. The other reason they may struggle is because they still cannot deal with teams that are overly physical with them. With one Premier League team I played for, we tried to fight fire with fire and play them at their own game. The result was that we were absolutely "tampered with", which is a saying in the game that basically means we were beaten out of sight. But at another club I played for, the game plan was simple: kick them. During that time, our record was outstanding against the Gunners. They hated playing against us and you could see the fear in the tunnel on the faces of Aaron Ramsey and, in particular, Theo Walcott. We employed every trick in the book. We muscled past our opposite numbers in the tunnel, we shook their hands aggressively before the game started. If there was a ball to be won, it was won in the most aggressive way possible. And when we scored, you made sure that you screamed in the ear of the opposition player who was closest to you after the ball had gone in. Now, let me add a disclaimer here. If I were a manager, I would not play this way, even though it works. I am a purist at heart and my dream would be to build a team that could beat Arsenal in a football match, not a war. I generally think that people who describe themselves as being 'a purist at heart' aren't worth listening to when it comes to football. That said, I know that it toes the line between wild exaggeration and outright fiction, but I actually like that account of us playing Arsenal. You don't need to tell us that fear was etched on Walcott's face - the sissy cried off the pitch with ten minutes to go when Arsenal had already used all of their substitutes, all because he dislocated his shoulder when landing from an appalling dive.
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Post by wokinghampotter on Apr 2, 2014 21:41:00 GMT
TSF is certainly not Kitson. The TSF used to play for West Brom.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 2, 2014 22:17:33 GMT
I wonder if he will chide his colleagues after every programme for the shear fact they haven't thanked him for his luminous grace as the marvelous football god that he thinks he "is" in their petty unknowing presence on the panel. Feckin twat.
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Post by unknown182 on Apr 2, 2014 22:31:41 GMT
TSF is certainly not Kitson. The TSF used to play for West Brom. Odemwingie?
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Post by DannyStokie on Apr 3, 2014 1:23:20 GMT
It's not Kitson, he'd never be aggressive.
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Post by greyman on Apr 3, 2014 6:08:49 GMT
"If I were a manager, I would not play this way, even though it works. I am a purist at heart and my dream would be to build a team that could beat Arsenal in a football match, not a war." What a prat. What Arsenal want is for other teams to play against them at their game, only worse. They clearly hate it when other teams don't do what they'd like them to do, which is why they are so weak psychologically. Any team who can stay organised and not do what they want, can beat them.
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Post by wokinghampotter on Apr 3, 2014 20:09:10 GMT
TSF is certainly not Kitson. The TSF used to play for West Brom. Odemwingie? I believe the TCF is Shorey. He was initially at Reading then West Brom.
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