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Post by mcf on Mar 11, 2014 8:40:52 GMT
Quite a lot of bullshit being thrown about over the last few days hasn't there? Unfairly judged as dirty or direct as a lasting legacy from Pulis? Smell the coffee wankstains and just admit that Hughes has woken up to what is required and why we are being much more successful as a result of going back to that vein. Hughton said we were physical and direct because...we were physical and direct.
I couldn't give a fuck whether we carry a dirty tag or not. I couldn't give a fuck whether we carry a direct tag or not. What I do care about, like every Stoke fan should, is simply having the ability to pick up regular points. Since we played The Shit at home then we have looked a lot more capable of getting points out of games both home and away. Many of our goals are coming from being more direct. Why anyone would want us to change that I have no idea. We've gained many a point from Shawcross 'punts' and we've scored the last 2 out of 3 away goals from throw ins being hurled in the box from the right hand side.
Many of the goals we let in are caused by players being out of position as a result of trying to play more open football. Again, this has been far less in the last month or two.
The problem for many of the wankstains is that they are so desperate for it to be different from what Pulis produced is that they can't accept some simple truths about our recent upturn.
There is much for Hughes to be proud of in that some of the football has been excellent and some of the players that he has brought in have made a clear and positive difference to the squad. All of the core Pulis players look to be playing as well as they ever have - Hughes should take great credit for that especially when we were under real pressure at certain points of the season. Luckily we have many players with big hearts. It might be ugly on the road at times but so what....needs must. It is much better than the poor spell we endured for that spell at the end of last season and has been every bit as good as some of Pulis' best football.
Surely it's not too much to ask for a bit of honesty?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Mar 11, 2014 8:43:41 GMT
Quite a lot of bullshit being thrown about over the last few days hasn't there? Unfairly judged as dirty or direct as a lasting legacy from Pulis? Smell the coffee wankstains and just admit that Hughes has woken up to what is required and why we are being much more successful as a result of going back to that vein. Hughton said we were physical and direct because...we were physical and direct. I couldn't give a fuck whether we carry a dirty tag or not. I couldn't give a fuck whether we carry a direct tag or not. What I do care about, like every Stoke fan should, is simply having the ability to pick up regular points. Since we played The Shit at home then we have looked a lot more capable of getting points out of games both home and away. Many of our goals are coming from being more direct. Why anyone would want us to change that I have no idea. We've gained many a point from Shawcross 'punts' and we've scored the last 2 out of 3 away goals from throw ins being hurled in the box from the right hand side. Many of the goals we let in are caused by players being out of position as a result of trying to play more open football. Again, this has been far less in the last month or two. The problem for many of the wankstains is that they are so desperate for it to be different from what Pulis produced is that they can't accept some simple truths about our recent upturn. There is much for Hughes to be proud of in that some of the football has been excellent and some of the players that he has brought in have made a clear and positive difference to the squad. All of the core Pulis players look to be playing as well as they ever have - Hughes should take great credit for that especially when we were under real pressure at certain points of the season. Luckily we have many players with big hearts. It might be ugly on the road at times but so what....needs must. It is much better than the poor spell we endured for that spell at the end of last season and has been every bit as good as some of Pulis' best football. Surely it's not too much to ask for a bit of honesty? Repeated for emphasis? I like it. On the subject of this thread, I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure you started the exact same thread last week. Is there any need to rehash this pointless argument? |
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Post by mcf on Mar 11, 2014 8:51:25 GMT
Quite a lot of bullshit being thrown about over the last few days hasn't there? Unfairly judged as dirty or direct as a lasting legacy from Pulis? Smell the coffee wankstains and just admit that Hughes has woken up to what is required and why we are being much more successful as a result of going back to that vein. Hughton said we were physical and direct because...we were physical and direct. I couldn't give a fuck whether we carry a dirty tag or not. I couldn't give a fuck whether we carry a direct tag or not. What I do care about, like every Stoke fan should, is simply having the ability to pick up regular points. Since we played The Shit at home then we have looked a lot more capable of getting points out of games both home and away. Many of our goals are coming from being more direct. Why anyone would want us to change that I have no idea. We've gained many a point from Shawcross 'punts' and we've scored the last 2 out of 3 away goals from throw ins being hurled in the box from the right hand side. Many of the goals we let in are caused by players being out of position as a result of trying to play more open football. Again, this has been far less in the last month or two. The problem for many of the wankstains is that they are so desperate for it to be different from what Pulis produced is that they can't accept some simple truths about our recent upturn. There is much for Hughes to be proud of in that some of the football has been excellent and some of the players that he has brought in have made a clear and positive difference to the squad. All of the core Pulis players look to be playing as well as they ever have - Hughes should take great credit for that especially when we were under real pressure at certain points of the season. Luckily we have many players with big hearts. It might be ugly on the road at times but so what....needs must. It is much better than the poor spell we endured for that spell at the end of last season and has been every bit as good as some of Pulis' best football. Surely it's not too much to ask for a bit of honesty? Repeated for emphasis? I like it. On the subject of this thread, I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure you started the exact same thread last week. Is there any need to rehash this pointless argument? One says dirty, one says direct. I don't think it's pointless otherwise I wouldn't have posted it. There is no need for the lies being spouted. |
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Post by Gods on Mar 11, 2014 8:55:08 GMT
Hughes came in with a brief and a determination to change us but no doubt as we have gone along this football club and its incumbent players and raw 'needs-must' necessity have changed him too.
My hope is we are now arriving at a happy equilibrium after 9 months and we can go forwards from here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 9:03:35 GMT
Hughes was never known for his tippy tappy Tony Mowbray era West Brom style football. His best days as a manager where at Blackburn where his team were physical and direct. I don't know where this notion that being direct is exclusive to Tony Pulis comes from and surely if wanting a more 'attractive' style was high on Coates' agenda then why appoint Pulis in the first place and why stick with him for so long?
At the start of the season we were passing it backwards and sideways too much and it wasn't effective, now we can mix it up a bit more. I don't see how Pulis deserves credit / criticism every time Shawcross knocks it long to Crouch.
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Post by greyman on Mar 11, 2014 9:09:44 GMT
Quite a lot of bullshit being thrown about over the last few days hasn't there? Unfairly judged as dirty or direct as a lasting legacy from Pulis? Smell the coffee wankstains and just admit that Hughes has woken up to what is required and why we are being much more successful as a result of going back to that vein. Hughton said we were physical and direct because...we were physical and direct. I couldn't give a fuck whether we carry a dirty tag or not. I couldn't give a fuck whether we carry a direct tag or not. What I do care about, like every Stoke fan should, is simply having the ability to pick up regular points. Since we played The Shit at home then we have looked a lot more capable of getting points out of games both home and away. Many of our goals are coming from being more direct. Why anyone would want us to change that I have no idea. We've gained many a point from Shawcross 'punts' and we've scored the last 2 out of 3 away goals from throw ins being hurled in the box from the right hand side. Many of the goals we let in are caused by players being out of position as a result of trying to play more open football. Again, this has been far less in the last month or two. The problem for many of the wankstains is that they are so desperate for it to be different from what Pulis produced is that they can't accept some simple truths about our recent upturn. There is much for Hughes to be proud of in that some of the football has been excellent and some of the players that he has brought in have made a clear and positive difference to the squad. All of the core Pulis players look to be playing as well as they ever have - Hughes should take great credit for that especially when we were under real pressure at certain points of the season. Luckily we have many players with big hearts. It might be ugly on the road at times but so what....needs must. It is much better than the poor spell we endured for that spell at the end of last season and has been every bit as good as some of Pulis' best football. Surely it's not too much to ask for a bit of honesty? Repeated for emphasis? I like it. On the subject of this thread, I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure you started the exact same thread last week. Is there any need to rehash this pointless argument? And the week before. And the week before that. And the week before. Don't expect for moment it won't also be rehashed next week. And the week after. And the week after that... He'll be in Benidorm for two weeks in August so maybe come back then. |
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Post by mcf on Mar 11, 2014 9:12:05 GMT
Hughes was never known for his tippy tappy Tony Mowbray era West Brom style football. His best days as a manager where at Blackburn where his team were physical and direct. I don't know where this notion that being direct is exclusive to Tony Pulis and surely if wanting a more 'attractive' style was high on Coates' agenda then why appoint Pulis in the first place and why stick with him for so long? At the start of the season we were passing it backwards and sideways too much and it wasn't effective, now we can mix it up a bit more. I don't see how Pulis deserves credit / criticism every time Shawcross knocks it long to Crouch. I just think establishing as to why we are doing so well at the moment is a pretty important topic. Many of our players have been incessantly slagged off and much has been made of a wasted £90M. It doesn't appear such a waste now that the manager has applied relevant tactics to these players. Both Pulis and Hughes deserve credit. |
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Post by mcf on Mar 11, 2014 9:13:46 GMT
Repeated for emphasis? I like it. On the subject of this thread, I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure you started the exact same thread last week. Is there any need to rehash this pointless argument? And the week before. And the week before that. And the week before. Don't expect for moment it won't also be rehashed next week. And the week after. And the week after that... He'll be in Benidorm for two weeks in August so maybe come back then. Ibiza - Holiday Village - slides for the kids and everything. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 11, 2014 9:16:05 GMT
Blimey Merk, even a card carrying Rimmer like myself is starting to get bored with this! If you are trying to make it so only you gives a toss whether TP is alive or dead, you are going the right way about it!  |
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Post by SidibeGod on Mar 11, 2014 9:20:25 GMT
Hughes was never known for his tippy tappy Tony Mowbray era West Brom style football. His best days as a manager where at Blackburn where his team were physical and direct. I don't know where this notion that being direct is exclusive to Tony Pulis and surely if wanting a more 'attractive' style was high on Coates' agenda then why appoint Pulis in the first place and why stick with him for so long? At the start of the season we were passing it backwards and sideways too much and it wasn't effective, now we can mix it up a bit more. I don't see how Pulis deserves credit / criticism every time Shawcross knocks it long to Crouch. I just think establishing as to why we are doing so well at the moment is a pretty important topic. Many of our players have been incessantly slagged off and much has been made of a wasted £90M. It doesn't appear such a waste now that the manager has applied relevant tactics to these players. Both Pulis and Hughes deserve credit. Mowbray’s tippy-tappy intransigence buried West Brom in the 2008-09 season. This season, the pressure was on Hughes to provide a similar style of play in the absence a squad who were not consistently capable of providing. Hughes deserves great credit for adapting to a mixed style of play, which hopefully, should keep us up this season. |
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Post by scfc75 on Mar 11, 2014 9:25:42 GMT
Pulis has a poor disciplinary record as manager. Hughes has a poor disciplinary record as manager. We were hardly going to qualify for the Europa League through a fair play spot this season, were we?
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Post by mcf on Mar 11, 2014 9:43:18 GMT
Blimey Merk, even a card carrying Rimmer like myself is starting to get bored with this! If you are trying to make it so only you gives a toss whether TP is alive or dead, you are going the right way about it! couldn't really give a fuck what you do or don't get bored with tbh |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 11, 2014 9:49:28 GMT
Blimey Merk, even a card carrying Rimmer like myself is starting to get bored with this! If you are trying to make it so only you gives a toss whether TP is alive or dead, you are going the right way about it! couldn't really give a fuck what you do or don't get bored with tbh Obviously!  It doesn't look like you worry how many people you are boring. Give it a rest Merk, you'll probably feel better and the most of the board certainly will. |
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Post by mcf on Mar 11, 2014 9:55:49 GMT
Indeed, the rest of the board can then carry on feeling sorry for itself and get all upset because the rest of the world doesn't agree that we've changed thanks to the lasting smear of Pulis.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 10:00:20 GMT
Hughes was never known for his tippy tappy Tony Mowbray era West Brom style football. His best days as a manager where at Blackburn where his team were physical and direct. I don't know where this notion that being direct is exclusive to Tony Pulis and surely if wanting a more 'attractive' style was high on Coates' agenda then why appoint Pulis in the first place and why stick with him for so long? At the start of the season we were passing it backwards and sideways too much and it wasn't effective, now we can mix it up a bit more. I don't see how Pulis deserves credit / criticism every time Shawcross knocks it long to Crouch. I just think establishing as to why we are doing so well at the moment is a pretty important topic. Many of our players have been incessantly slagged off and much has been made of a wasted £90M. It doesn't appear such a waste now that the manager has applied relevant tactics to these players. Both Pulis and Hughes deserve credit. But can't you see it is just a minority who can't let go of hating Pulis? By continually moaning about them you are just as bad. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 10:00:48 GMT
Can we talk about Benidorm instead...It has a CERTAIN AMBIENCE that I feel is sadly missing from the Maldives and Seychelles.
Its the lovely blonde woman at the end that pushes my button.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Mar 11, 2014 10:07:34 GMT
There is a continuation of transition, but there are times when you need to be direct and other times when you want to keep the ball all over the pitch. Scorelines are relevant. 2-1 up with 5 minutes to go, keep the ball and the only way you do that is being able to pass and pass and pass. Down 1-2 with 5 minutes to go and even Man U, Chelski, Arsenal (well perhaps not) Man city will play a more direct way. Often commentators say if you are trying to defend a tight winning score with a few minutes to go, don't let the opposing goalie have it to thump it upfield.
Pulis probably over used the direct and like GOD says there has to be a balanced mix of direct and passing, as long as we can move with pace. SCFC & Hughes problem early in the season was we were so slow in the build up passing square, back etc that opposing teams had time to defend and re-group after their attacks broke down. We need to be faster, slicker and direct when we need to be and take more pot shots IMO. That is the transition and taht will also need a slight change in personnel and not a little cash spend.
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Post by mcf on Mar 11, 2014 10:14:08 GMT
I just think establishing as to why we are doing so well at the moment is a pretty important topic. Many of our players have been incessantly slagged off and much has been made of a wasted £90M. It doesn't appear such a waste now that the manager has applied relevant tactics to these players. Both Pulis and Hughes deserve credit. But can't you see it is just a minority who can't let go of hating Pulis? By continually moaning about them you are just as bad. I don't mind being as bad - I can live with it. In my humble opinion it is a topic worthy of discussion now and again, especially when the board is littered with such posters moaning about, and there are one or two posters happy to respond with worthy comments - even if a couple of the resident smug fuckers on here think they can dictate as to what everyone should be allowed to post. |
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Post by werrington on Mar 11, 2014 10:17:22 GMT
I totally despised the antiquated mindnumbing dirge he churned out on a football pitch
That's all I need to know about his legacy .....Along with no pace or guile
Hughes is trying to win games and that's all I ask so the two cannot be compared
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 10:17:54 GMT
But can't you see it is just a minority who can't let go of hating Pulis? By continually moaning about them you are just as bad. I don't mind being as bad - I can live with it. In my humble opinion it is a topic worthy of discussion now and again, especially when the board is littered with such posters moaning about, and there are one or two posters happy to respond with worthy comments - even if a couple of the resident smug fuckers on here think they can dictate as to what everyone should be allowed to post. now and again i think most people could handle....it's your desire to turn virtually every thread into a Pulis v wankstains argument that bores people to tears though. just see if you can go a whole day on here without mentioning Pulis and without using the term "Wankstains"....bet you can't  |
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 11, 2014 10:18:37 GMT
Blimey Merk, even a card carrying Rimmer like myself is starting to get bored with this! If you are trying to make it so only you gives a toss whether TP is alive or dead, you are going the right way about it! To be fair he's no more annoying than several posters who can't help but make sly digs at either Pulis or certain players. I don't get the hysterical reactions to some of MCFs posts. I think there's more than a hint of accuracy in his OP here for example. |
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Post by mcf on Mar 11, 2014 10:20:18 GMT
I don't mind being as bad - I can live with it. In my humble opinion it is a topic worthy of discussion now and again, especially when the board is littered with such posters moaning about, and there are one or two posters happy to respond with worthy comments - even if a couple of the resident smug fuckers on here think they can dictate as to what everyone should be allowed to post. now and again i think most people could handle....it's your desire to turn virtually every thread into a Pulis v wankstains argument that bores people to tears though. just see if you can go a whole day on here without mentioning Pulis and without using the term "Wankstains"....bet you can't One word...deluded. There is a 9 page thread on here about Tony Pulis at Crystal Pulisace that I haven't once posted on....you will probably find that it was started as a dig at him and has every PHW under the sun on it. Check it out and tell me I'm wrong!? |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Mar 11, 2014 10:23:21 GMT
I don't mind being as bad - I can live with it. In my humble opinion it is a topic worthy of discussion now and again, especially when the board is littered with such posters moaning about, and there are one or two posters happy to respond with worthy comments - even if a couple of the resident smug fuckers on here think they can dictate as to what everyone should be allowed to post. now and again i think most people could handle....it's your desire to turn virtually every thread into a Pulis v wankstains argument that bores people to tears though. just see if you can go a whole day on here without mentioning Pulis and without using the term "Wankstains"....bet you can't But most pulis threads are started by the 'wankstains'. Then they have the bollox to tell the 'rimmers' to get over it. They just hate the fact that he is a good manager and also a very descent bloke, in fact one of the greatest managers ever at this football club. Who are the real sad fuckers here?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 10:28:23 GMT
This board has become so predictable.
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Post by mcf on Mar 11, 2014 10:29:17 GMT
now and again i think most people could handle....it's your desire to turn virtually every thread into a Pulis v wankstains argument that bores people to tears though. just see if you can go a whole day on here without mentioning Pulis and without using the term "Wankstains"....bet you can't But most pulis threads are started by the 'wankstains'. Then they have the bollox to tell the 'rimmers' to get over it. They just hate the fact that he is a good manager and also a very descent bloke, in fact one of the greatest managers ever at this football club. Who are the real sad fuckers here? Don't be daft Stafford...millsy will be along later to tell us that a 9 page thread doesn't exsist, that it wasn't started by a wankstain and that wezzo, markw, raf, pugsley et al never, ever, ever, ever posted on it. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 11, 2014 10:33:24 GMT
And the week before. And the week before that. And the week before. Don't expect for moment it won't also be rehashed next week. And the week after. And the week after that... He'll be in Benidorm for two weeks in August so maybe come back then. Ibiza - Holiday Village - slides for the kids and everything. Which dates? |
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Post by scfc2014 on Mar 11, 2014 10:34:49 GMT
One of the greatest managers ever at this football club!!!!!!!! Behave you idiot,Hughes is a far better manager and has more than plan A up his sleeve.The potential under Hughes is a lot more exciting,the donkey has gone,my only complaint is he didn't take some of the garbage with him when he left
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 10:35:16 GMT
Yes we do play direct and also mix it up.
Nowt wrong with it and could never understand 'ok, maybe I could in the last season and half' why Pulis on the whole got the grief he did.
But yes we're more direct and nowt up with that whatsoever in my book.
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Post by mcf on Mar 11, 2014 10:46:28 GMT
Ibiza - Holiday Village - slides for the kids and everything. Which dates? end of july/beg of aug....making sure I'm back for the total football. |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 11, 2014 11:03:52 GMT
end of july/beg of aug....making sure I'm back for the total football. Make sure you have access to WiFi so you don't miss an opportunity to contribute to the transfer window thread at the very least |
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