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Post by malteser68 on Feb 27, 2014 22:44:05 GMT
What a grade A piece of shit he is. Did you watch the spurs vs Dnipro match ? It was he who actually clashed with zozulya not vice versa!! A proper ref would have shown the red card to him for play acting ! How despicable ! I hate such cheating ! The Ukrainians were well in charge till that point of the game. Konoplyanka is such a player !!!
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Post by StokeyMan on Feb 27, 2014 22:45:57 GMT
Disgraceful, saw it and straight away nearly blew my lid!
Sherwood should stand up to it and give him a 2 week ban and fine.
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Post by bounderboy on Feb 27, 2014 22:47:32 GMT
Some of the worst play acting I have ever seen... Another incident where you wonder what are the goal line assistants actually doing...!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 27, 2014 22:47:44 GMT
What a grade A piece of shit he is. Did you watch the spurs vs Dnipro match ? It was he who actually clashed with zozulya not vice versa!! A proper ref would have shown the red card to him for play acting ! How despicable ! I hate such cheating ! The Ukrainians were well in charge till that point of the game. Konoplyanka is such a player !!! Sorry mate in this instance you're wrong. Seen from one angle you clearly see his head jerk back from the contact. It wasn't a full on butt and didn't warrant the reaction but he clearly did catch him. You are right though he is a piece of shit anyway. |
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 27, 2014 22:48:01 GMT
Disgraceful, saw it and straight away nearly blew my lid! Sherwood should stand up to it and give him a 2 week ban and fine. sherwood is not man enough to do that. Without the red card spurs would be out. I guess the only justification there could be is that in actual fact spurs had been playing with 10 men all along with soldado in the starting 11 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 22:48:16 GMT
Ref got it right, the guy head butted him
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 27, 2014 22:52:49 GMT
Ref got it right, the guy head butted him I completely disagree. And zizulya's reaction is further proof if his innocence. The piece of shit has a knack for getting opposition players sent off |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 6:07:19 GMT
Ref got it right, the guy head butted him I completely disagree. And zizulya's reaction is further proof if his innocence. The piece of shit has a knack for getting opposition players sent off When you watch the head butt in slow mo you can see the Tottenham players head jerk back on impact....that was not play acting. He may well have made the most of it afterwards, but it was a deliberate head butt none the less. |
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Feb 28, 2014 6:20:31 GMT
I completely disagree. And zizulya's reaction is further proof if his innocence. The piece of shit has a knack for getting opposition players sent off When you watch the head butt in slow mo you can see the Tottenham players head jerk back on impact....that was not play acting. He may well have made the most of it afterwards, but it was a deliberate head butt none the less. I know you shouldn't do it but is it really that much different to nudging someone? There was barely enough contact to make his head move, never mind go rolling around. There's no way what so ever that he was hurt by it and it shows what football has turned into and, what's worse, is I see players doing it in Sunday league. It's a joke. I'm not criticising you for thinking it was a red card but the fact you have to watch it from a specific angle, slowed down, sums up the incident for me. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 28, 2014 6:35:43 GMT
When you watch the head butt in slow mo you can see the Tottenham players head jerk back on impact....that was not play acting. He may well have made the most of it afterwards, but it was a deliberate head butt none the less. I know you shouldn't do it but is it really that much different to nudging someone? There was barely enough contact to make his head move, never mind go rolling around. There's no way what so ever that he was hurt by it and it shows what football has turned into and, what's worse, is I see players doing it in Sunday league. It's a joke. I'm not criticising you for thinking it was a red card but the fact you have to watch it from a specific angle, slowed down, sums up the incident for me. It is quite simple - under the rules it WAS a red card - simple. The players know the rule - the guy possibly lost the tie for his club - if I was his manager I'd give him the biggest fine allowed. Personally, I wish the ref had also given a yellow to Verthongen for the play acting - but without the benefit of a replay, I can quite understand that the ref may not have seen how gentle the head butt actually was. |
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 28, 2014 6:38:19 GMT
Without the slowmo you can clearly see something else - verthingen actually provoked the incident and went looking for it. Now in my opinion that is really as shallow as it gets. I'd love to see a ref with balls who gives a straight red to any player making a meal out of nothing to get another player expelled
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 6:50:28 GMT
When you watch the head butt in slow mo you can see the Tottenham players head jerk back on impact....that was not play acting. He may well have made the most of it afterwards, but it was a deliberate head butt none the less. I know you shouldn't do it but is it really that much different to nudging someone? There was barely enough contact to make his head move, never mind go rolling around. There's no way what so ever that he was hurt by it and it shows what football has turned into and, what's worse, is I see players doing it in Sunday league. It's a joke. I'm not criticising you for thinking it was a red card but the fact you have to watch it from a specific angle, slowed down, sums up the incident for me. I didn't have to watch it in slow....it was obvious....if you head butt a player you'll get a red....simple Them's the rules |
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Feb 28, 2014 10:08:27 GMT
To be fair, I felt sorry for Spurs up to that point. Dniper are a fantastically skilled team, some of the close ball control, running off the ball, quick passing were a joy as they were running rings around Tottenham. The massive downside was the constant diving, play acting, harassing the ref, time wasting completely spoilt the game... and it was a feeling of justice when the player got a red card.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 28, 2014 10:24:34 GMT
A teddy bear would have head butted him harder than that!
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Feb 28, 2014 10:25:57 GMT
Definitely a red card. Correct decision.
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Post by siggy on Feb 28, 2014 10:37:34 GMT
My initial thought was that Vertongen went down faking it - when you see the replay there is contact and Vertongen makes a meal out of it to get the player sent off.
However I think if you replay the incident from a little further back you will see there is a lot of jostling between the players and I think the Dnipro player just went to touch foreheads with Vertongen and ended up butting him accidentally! There was no intent and the shameful playacting should have resulted in a yellow for both
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 10:39:36 GMT
Definitely a red card. Correct decision. i think people nowadays unfortunately get things mixed up and presume that because a player makes far too much of something that therefore means it wasn't a foul. just because Verthongen went over and rolled around as if he'd been shot doesn't mean it WASN'T a foul by the Dynpro player...it was a headbutt, not a massively painful one but just because Verthongen over reacted doesn't change the fact it's a red card (and for those that complain about Verthongen for his pushing and sparking the incident...have you ever seen OUR players, specifically Huth and Shawcross, at virtually every set piece??? it's called winding the opposition up so they lose their concentration, we do it all the frigging time!) |
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Post by mrred on Feb 28, 2014 10:50:37 GMT
Definitely a red card. Correct decision. i think people nowadays unfortunately get things mixed up and presume that because a player makes far too much of something that therefore means it wasn't a foul. just because Verthongen went over and rolled around as if he'd been shot doesn't mean it WASN'T a foul by the Dynpro player...it was a headbutt, not a massively painful one but just because Verthongen over reacted doesn't change the fact it's a red card (and for those that complain about Verthongen for his pushing and sparking the incident...have you ever seen OUR players, specifically Huth and Shawcross, at virtually every set piece??? it's called winding the opposition up so they lose their concentration, we do it all the frigging time!) Absolutely. We've gotten away with far worse than that little ponsey shove when we're defending set pieces. |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Feb 28, 2014 11:57:38 GMT
Verthongen epitomizes most of what's wrong with the modern game.
Imagine that fairy-like contact in a game of rugby for your answer to whether he was sorely wronged by Zizulya.
As the OP mentioned, the Belgian is a piece of shit IMO and our players need to be aware of his outrageous antics when we play them in our most important game since we returned to the Prem.
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Post by siggy on Feb 28, 2014 12:38:52 GMT
Definitely a red card. Correct decision. i think people nowadays unfortunately get things mixed up and presume that because a player makes far too much of something that therefore means it wasn't a foul. just because Verthongen went over and rolled around as if he'd been shot doesn't mean it WASN'T a foul by the Dynpro player...it was a headbutt, not a massively painful one but just because Verthongen over reacted doesn't change the fact it's a red card (and for those that complain about Verthongen for his pushing and sparking the incident...have you ever seen OUR players, specifically Huth and Shawcross, at virtually every set piece??? it's called winding the opposition up so they lose their concentration, we do it all the frigging time!) Thats all true but the danger of what Vertngan did is how can you tell when a player is ever genuinely injured if you let someone get away with blatent acting? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 12:57:56 GMT
i think people nowadays unfortunately get things mixed up and presume that because a player makes far too much of something that therefore means it wasn't a foul. just because Verthongen went over and rolled around as if he'd been shot doesn't mean it WASN'T a foul by the Dynpro player...it was a headbutt, not a massively painful one but just because Verthongen over reacted doesn't change the fact it's a red card (and for those that complain about Verthongen for his pushing and sparking the incident...have you ever seen OUR players, specifically Huth and Shawcross, at virtually every set piece??? it's called winding the opposition up so they lose their concentration, we do it all the frigging time!) Thats all true but the danger of what Vertngan did is how can you tell when a player is ever genuinely injured if you let someone get away with blatent acting? it's fairly obvious when a player is genuinely injured. you'll find that the ref tends to go up to the player on the ground to check as well. i can't think of any instance when a genuinely injured player hasn't been spotted as people presume he's just play acting |
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Post by nott1 on Feb 28, 2014 13:03:04 GMT
If he was badly injured he won't be in their next match. What's the odds on that? I think I know!
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Post by jonnybravo on Feb 28, 2014 13:03:46 GMT
If someone had head butted me like that I'd get sent off aswell,I'd head butt him back twice as hard
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Post by jeycov on Feb 28, 2014 13:08:46 GMT
Soldado was lucky? to avoid punishment for a rather aggressive tackle as the ball went out of play, early in the first half.
Fair play to Adebayor - some great attacking play - not always easy playing against 10 men
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Post by onionman on Feb 28, 2014 13:38:26 GMT
I seem to remember Vertonghen doing a fair bit of playacting when we played Spurs a couple of years ago, the game Charlie Adam was sent off. He and Bale spent half the game prodding Stoke players in the chest, and the other half pretending to be in great pain after being prodded in the chest themselves.
Nothing worse than a big defender who play acts. Vertonghen, Ivanovic, Thomas Berthold.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 13:51:11 GMT
Soldado was lucky? to avoid punishment for a rather aggressive tackle as the ball went out of play, early in the first half. Fair play to Adebayor - some great attacking play - not always easy playing against 10 men agreed...Adebayor was superb for them last night and a proper leader for the rest of the team |
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