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Post by stokeramblers on Feb 13, 2014 10:10:45 GMT
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Post by st3mark on Feb 13, 2014 10:16:40 GMT
I've felt that way about Ashley Williams for a long time.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Feb 13, 2014 10:31:59 GMT
Which thread was this on?
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Feb 13, 2014 10:32:06 GMT
The sooner these and the other dirty sheep shaggin cunts are out of the English Premier league the better. Dirty inbred scum!
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Post by thebet365 on Feb 13, 2014 10:32:34 GMT
Match day thread at the top
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 10:35:22 GMT
Top work, Joe. It was the quality rant of a cold and tired man (we're all jealous )
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Post by Northy on Feb 13, 2014 10:36:20 GMT
All true
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 13, 2014 10:37:57 GMT
Top work.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Feb 13, 2014 10:41:23 GMT
good work
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 10:47:53 GMT
The sooner these and the other dirty sheep shaggin cunts are out of the English Premier league the better. Dirty inbred scum! isn't that pretty much what all Prem fans think of us? do we really want to lower ourselves to this kind of level? when we did it for 5 years then we were just being physical and other teams (according to us) had to learn there's more to football than "Tika taka shit" but when they do it against us they're all suddenly scum? i know we're sticking up for one of our own as it were, but when we end up looking like complete hypocritical wankers it's not really going to work is it?
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Post by st3mark on Feb 13, 2014 10:52:22 GMT
The sooner these and the other dirty sheep shaggin cunts are out of the English Premier league the better. Dirty inbred scum! isn't that pretty much what all Prem fans think of us? do we really want to lower ourselves to this kind of level? when we did it for 5 years then we were just being physical and other teams (according to us) had to learn there's more to football than "Tika taka shit" but when they do it against us they're all suddenly scum? i know we're sticking up for one of our own as it were, but when we end up looking like complete hypocritical wankers it's not really going to work is it? You think Swansea were being physical? I think he's suggesting they were cheating bastards not that they were physical. Their approach wasn't similar to our physical style at all.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 13, 2014 10:58:33 GMT
Hardly hypocritical, Swansea are lauded for their footballing abilities yet the other side of their game is as bad as anything you'll see in the PL. There's nothing worse than a cowardly cheat and, unfortunately, Swansea have more than their fair share.
I like to think of Stoke as a team of honest players. I'd hate to think of us being a bunch of mardy, cheating, coniving arseholes. We took our criticism on the chin and stuck it to everybody who doubted and disliked us.
I don't mind being labelled as physical. I'd rather be physical than a cheating coward.
Either way it's a top rant. Yes, it may appear a bit hysterical but that's half the fun of it. The rants on the Man United forums during the game the other week were hilarious too.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 13, 2014 11:00:49 GMT
To be honest, they might laugh at his rant and mock him as 'inarticulate' but I agree with absolutely every point he made. Ashley Williams has been taking lessons from John Terry... well maybe not John Terry because JT was too busy at a KKK rally, but perhaps of John's older fatter uglier brother Paul... oh wait, no, he's out shagging his team mates wives, perhaps off his dad Ted, oh wait, he's in jail I think, or his mum, no wait, she's robbing trackies from Sainsbury's.... maybe off a friend of John then, yes, Ashley Williams has definitely been taking serious lessons from that direction. Right from the kick off, he was in the ear of the referee every time there was the smallest of incidents, he had to make himself the centre of attention. Just the way of modern football I guess.
I didn't think Chico Flores did anything particularly wrong in the game as such, I don't remember him taking a dive, but I thought his celebration was particularly classless in front of the Stoke fans.
I have to agree with the Bony comments. In the first half, he absolutely battered Shawcross and Wilson, gave them a real tough time, yet in the second half with minutes to go, he got nudged by a bean pole in Crouch and threw himself on the floor. You can't really blame the handball on him, ultimately it's the refs job to spot it. He was the numpty who missed it.
I don't know if I'd have sent Nathan Dyer off for that tackle on Odemwingie. It was right in front of me so I had a good view. It was cowardly to say the least. He was never going to win the ball and he knew it. It probably wasn't a dangerous tackle as such, but what irritated me about Dyer was he seemingly gets away with stuff. He likes to leave little digs on players and because he's small we all go "aww, well he couldn't hurt anyone, he's only small" but it's cynical to say the least.
He's spot on about the media. After West Ham, Swansea are fast becoming the media darlings. "Oh they play football the right way", sure they do, they play the modern infected football full of dives, cheating and time wasting.
To be fair, their fans condemned Chico Flores after the Carroll incident, but it seems they're all quick to forgive him and were commenting how well he played last night.
I find the last comment funny, about 'if' we stay up. Let's just remind me these thick Welsh fucks that they're just one point ahead of us in the table and really should be behind us, if we hadn't been playing the ref. Swansea have some pretty tough away games coming up, Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton later in the season, and some rather tough home games to, a rejuvenated Crystal Palace and Chelsea on the final day. I'm happy to put money on that Stoke will finish above Swansea this season.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 13, 2014 11:01:28 GMT
Top, top work
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Post by metalhead on Feb 13, 2014 11:02:03 GMT
The sooner these and the other dirty sheep shaggin cunts are out of the English Premier league the better. Dirty inbred scum! isn't that pretty much what all Prem fans think of us? do we really want to lower ourselves to this kind of level? when we did it for 5 years then we were just being physical and other teams (according to us) had to learn there's more to football than "Tika taka shit" but when they do it against us they're all suddenly scum? i know we're sticking up for one of our own as it were, but when we end up looking like complete hypocritical wankers it's not really going to work is it? Mick, they weren't physical. They were cheating. The only physical player they had was Bony, who all credit gave Shawcross and Wilson a tough time in the first half. I think their consistent cheating throughout the game was pretty horrendous tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 11:12:00 GMT
isn't that pretty much what all Prem fans think of us? do we really want to lower ourselves to this kind of level? when we did it for 5 years then we were just being physical and other teams (according to us) had to learn there's more to football than "Tika taka shit" but when they do it against us they're all suddenly scum? i know we're sticking up for one of our own as it were, but when we end up looking like complete hypocritical wankers it's not really going to work is it? You think Swansea were being physical? I think he's suggesting they were cheating bastards not that they were physical. Their approach wasn't similar to our physical style at all. not last night maybe but the past 5 years? yeah kinda! are refs now suddenly supposed to think "I know, Stoke are a physical side but tonight they're actually not as bad as usual so i'll therefore judge the game differently based on how THEY have decided to play tonight and the opposition team will have to deal with that"? WE have created the tag of us being a physical side by the way we've played over the last few years...because of that refs tend to go one of two ways: 1) they clamp down straight away and make sure we can't play like that or 2) they let us get on with it but also therefore let the other team do it as well are we now saying that the ref should base what he's going to do on how WE decided to play on any given night? if we can't take it and just start whining when people do it against us then it's our own fault for basing much of our game purely on the physical side of football. ask any neutral fan and they started liking us when we came up because of our dogged determination and brute strength but most then went on to hate us because of us being niggly, fouling, grabbing people at set pieces etc. etc. let's not pretend we weren't as bad in previous years because it's a simple fact; we were and WE loved it and loved pissing off other fans and teams because of how much it pissed them off...jesus, even people on here used to say regularly how Ryan and Huth should watch out because of their grabbing tactics at corners etc. and that we got away with so much. let's not completely re-invent OUR recent history and let's not decide that Swansea last night were thugs and cheats all over the park because they weren't.....Adam was lucky to not get 2 yellows (there were several times he could have gone throughout the game)and was as good at timing his tackles as ever (i.e. not very!), Glenn went in 2 footed at one point etc. but apparently when WE do it it's because it's a man's game and the opposition should stop being pussies but when any other team does it then........wwwaaaaah waaaah mummy stop them, they're cheating! it's just inconsistent and hypocritical..if we want refs to allow US to be physical in games (which we obviously still do considering the moaning on here after every game if any oppo player goes down asking for a free kick and we give him shit for being a girl and insist they remember it's a "Man's game") then we're going to get it back. if that WASN'T the case then why, for the last 5 years, have we been constantly moaning at players who go down too easily, constantly gone about how it's a contact sport, constantly berated other sides for not being able to deal with our physical side and just complaining that we were thugs? it's because a massive part of our game and success for the last few years HAS been based around getting away with what we can get away with under the term "Contact sport" and laughing at other sides who couldn't deal with it....let's have a bit of consistency eh or it just makes us look like bitter,whining, soreheaded tits (i.e. exactly the same as the idiotic fans of other teams that slagged us off for so long!) last night's result had sod all to do with Swansea "Cheating" and far more to do with our team coming out in the second half still half asleep. they bossed us in the last part of the first half and we were lucky to be 1 up by half time. in the second half we carried on allowing them to boss us and they equalised because of us being lazy, not at the races and nowhere near committed enough to winning any of the first or second balls. to come out blaming it on Swansea being cheats or thugs is childish, hypocritical and just wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 11:15:18 GMT
Hardly hypocritical, Swansea are lauded for their footballing abilities yet the other side of their game is as bad as anything you'll see in the PL. There's nothing worse than a cowardly cheat and, unfortunately, Swansea have more than their fair share. I like to think of Stoke as a team of honest players. I'd hate to think of us being a bunch of mardy, cheating, coniving arseholes. We took our criticism on the chin and stuck it to everybody who doubted and disliked us. I don't mind being labelled as physical. I'd rather be physical than a cheating coward. Either way it's a top rant. Yes, it may appear a bit hysterical but that's half the fun of it. The rants on the Man United forums during the game the other week were hilarious too. oh i agree it's funny and have no problem for that...i just don't see why suddenly when we get a new manager then WE can change our style and become a "Footballing team" and everyone should accept that but when Swansea get a new manager in and decide to start mixing it up a bit by bringing more physicality to their game then suddenly they're wankers. many also seem to have forgotten that if we DID have a ref who'd have put a stop to all this apparent cheating of theirs then we would have been down to ten men because Charlie gave the ref plenty of chances to yellow card him throughout the game. can't have it both ways!
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 13, 2014 11:15:57 GMT
The sooner these and the other dirty sheep shaggin cunts are out of the English Premier league the better. Dirty inbred scum! You really are a total twat aren't you?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 11:22:17 GMT
isn't that pretty much what all Prem fans think of us? do we really want to lower ourselves to this kind of level? when we did it for 5 years then we were just being physical and other teams (according to us) had to learn there's more to football than "Tika taka shit" but when they do it against us they're all suddenly scum? i know we're sticking up for one of our own as it were, but when we end up looking like complete hypocritical wankers it's not really going to work is it? Mick, they weren't physical. They were cheating. The only physical player they had was Bony, who all credit gave Shawcross and Wilson a tough time in the first half. I think their consistent cheating throughout the game was pretty horrendous tbh. but (as has actually been rightly pointed out on the Swansea board to be fair) did we complain about our players taking bloody ages to take throw ins/free kicks etc. when we were 1-0 up? did we complain when Ryan took bloody ages to tie his bleeding boots? did we complain when Crouch ran straight up to the ref and got in his ear when he appealed for the pen? no, cos that isn't cheating, that's just clever play isn't it when we do it? we "Cheated" just as much because we were clearly getting frustrated, Adam never would have stayed on the pitch under most refs...in other words, we weren't any angels last night either and just using that as an excuse is completely excusing and ignoring the fact that we didn't win because, quite simply, we just weren't good enough and didn't deserve to. any other reasons given for it are just papering over the cracks in order to conveniently ignore the facts and the facts are that regardless of what Swansea did, we wer disappointing overall and for that we have nowhere else to look but to our own team. we've cheated shit loads of times since we came up (we just have and we all know it) and got away with it, we won pens that we never should have because OUR players bought them, we've had players that went down easy to try to win free kicks when they shouldn't have, we've wasted time in games where we're winning, we've had times when OUR players have surrounded the ref. we're no different at all...live by the sword and all that!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 11:30:49 GMT
Good post, Metal. Impressed!
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Post by metalhead on Feb 13, 2014 11:37:10 GMT
Mick, they weren't physical. They were cheating. The only physical player they had was Bony, who all credit gave Shawcross and Wilson a tough time in the first half. I think their consistent cheating throughout the game was pretty horrendous tbh. but (as has actually been rightly pointed out on the Swansea board to be fair) did we complain about our players taking bloody ages to take throw ins/free kicks etc. when we were 1-0 up? did we complain when Ryan took bloody ages to tie his bleeding boots? did we complain when Crouch ran straight up to the ref and got in his ear when he appealed for the pen? no, cos that isn't cheating, that's just clever play isn't it when we do it? we "Cheated" just as much because we were clearly getting frustrated, Adam never would have stayed on the pitch under most refs...in other words, we weren't any angels last night either and just using that as an excuse is completely excusing and ignoring the fact that we didn't win because, quite simply, we just weren't good enough and didn't deserve to. any other reasons given for it are just papering over the cracks in order to conveniently ignore the facts and the facts are that regardless of what Swansea did, we wer disappointing overall and for that we have nowhere else to look but to our own team. we've cheated shit loads of times since we came up (we just have and we all know it) and got away with it, we won pens that we never should have because OUR players bought them, we've had players that went down easy to try to win free kicks when they shouldn't have, we've wasted time in games where we're winning, we've had times when OUR players have surrounded the ref. we're no different at all...live by the sword and all that! Interesting points 1. I think the wind was making it difficult to take free kicks quite as swiftly as usual, didn't notice anything particularly wrong with the throws, but fair comment. 2. Ryan tying up his boots was an interesting one, but I'd counter and say on principal that it was the actions of Bony. As he stood there shouting at Shawcross to tie them up quicker, I thought that was a bit unnecessary. Perhaps you're right on that one, he did seem to take longer than I expected but note the referee didn't speed him up, he did however tell Bony to walk away. 3. Crouch was appealing for what looked like a blatant penalty, the foul hadn't been awarded. That's not the same as getting in the refs ear after a free kick has been given in a sly attempt to get a man booked. I'm not saying that Crouch was within his rights to do it, he probably overstepped the mark a little by shouting so aggressively, but the ref hadn't given the foul. The Swansea players were at the ref AFTER fouls in an attempt to get bookings and more fouls later on. 4. I agree that we weren't good enough. We probably didn't deserve the three but we certainly came close to it. 5. Not sure I agree with your final point whatsoever. I don't think cheating has been particularly rife since we came up. I remember Ricky Fuller once taking a dive against someone, can't remember who, and listening to P&G on the radio home after the game, people were tearing him a new arsehole "We don't do that at Stoke" kind of comments, so I respectfully disagree.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 12:11:12 GMT
but (as has actually been rightly pointed out on the Swansea board to be fair) did we complain about our players taking bloody ages to take throw ins/free kicks etc. when we were 1-0 up? did we complain when Ryan took bloody ages to tie his bleeding boots? did we complain when Crouch ran straight up to the ref and got in his ear when he appealed for the pen? no, cos that isn't cheating, that's just clever play isn't it when we do it? we "Cheated" just as much because we were clearly getting frustrated, Adam never would have stayed on the pitch under most refs...in other words, we weren't any angels last night either and just using that as an excuse is completely excusing and ignoring the fact that we didn't win because, quite simply, we just weren't good enough and didn't deserve to. any other reasons given for it are just papering over the cracks in order to conveniently ignore the facts and the facts are that regardless of what Swansea did, we wer disappointing overall and for that we have nowhere else to look but to our own team. we've cheated shit loads of times since we came up (we just have and we all know it) and got away with it, we won pens that we never should have because OUR players bought them, we've had players that went down easy to try to win free kicks when they shouldn't have, we've wasted time in games where we're winning, we've had times when OUR players have surrounded the ref. we're no different at all...live by the sword and all that! Interesting points 1. I think the wind was making it difficult to take free kicks quite as swiftly as usual, didn't notice anything particularly wrong with the throws, but fair comment. 2. Ryan tying up his boots was an interesting one, but I'd counter and say on principal that it was the actions of Bony. As he stood there shouting at Shawcross to tie them up quicker, I thought that was a bit unnecessary. Perhaps you're right on that one, he did seem to take longer than I expected but note the referee didn't speed him up, he did however tell Bony to walk away. 3. Crouch was appealing for what looked like a blatant penalty, the foul hadn't been awarded. That's not the same as getting in the refs ear after a free kick has been given in a sly attempt to get a man booked. I'm not saying that Crouch was within his rights to do it, he probably overstepped the mark a little by shouting so aggressively, but the ref hadn't given the foul. The Swansea players were at the ref AFTER fouls in an attempt to get bookings and more fouls later on. 4. I agree that we weren't good enough. We probably didn't deserve the three but we certainly came close to it. 5. Not sure I agree with your final point whatsoever. I don't think cheating has been particularly rife since we came up. I remember Ricky Fuller once taking a dive against someone, can't remember who, and listening to P&G on the radio home after the game, people were tearing him a new arsehole "We don't do that at Stoke" kind of comments, so I respectfully disagree. don't get me wrong, i'm not saying we have a history of cheating loads and loads but to be fair (putting the Flores incident the other week aside) neither do swansea. last night i think was nothing more than 2 teams who didn't really want to be on the pitch due to the conditions and 2 teams that were both as frustrated as each other with the game. when people get wound up shit happens and especially if you're 1-0 down then you start resorting to doing what you can to get yourself a step up (in the same way we wasted time to try to KEEP our advantage). i didn't see any majorly dangerous/nasty play by Swansea (and no more than we did, Charlie was clipping people's heels left, right and centre), i didn't see many incidents where people went over as if they'd been shot, rolling around crying etc. we've had games where we've done it because EVERY Prem team..hell, EVERY team full stop do it at times because they're frustrated, wound up, it's not working for them so they do what they can to try to get some territorial advantage and get a foothold. yes. technically it's cheating but anyone would think they were diving all over the place, tackling dangerously at every opportunity and begging the ref to card our players at every turn and that just isn't true at all. Arnie's spent a lot of the time this season appealing for free kicks when it's not one and it's just because he's lost the ball, KJ made a career of doing that, Adam is always screaming at the ref and both him and Glenn are constantly completely mistiming tackles and legging people up (even wilson has learnt the habit of making "good" fouls that benefit the team). all players do it, all teams do it but let's not decide that Swansea just spent 90 minutes cheating their way to a draw last night cos that isn't what happened.as i've pointed out, if we had a ref that was going to cut all that out last night (from both teams) then a ref like that would have sent Adam off, he was the only one really that deserved a red last night (could have had shitloads of yellows) and got away with it. we were just disappointing, no other excuses at all for me.
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Post by DC1863 on Feb 13, 2014 12:33:08 GMT
Jesus Christ slow news day or what? There's a rant after every game on every single message board around the country about one thing or another! Hang your head in shame journo who has wrote this, real amateur stuff.
P.S.: Notice they don't actually defend anything that Joe states they just make snide comments like cunts do in an argument, again cant believe this has been made into a story, pathetic journalism.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Feb 13, 2014 12:34:27 GMT
The sooner these and the other dirty sheep shaggin cunts are out of the English Premier league the better. Dirty inbred scum! You really are a total twat aren't you? Thank you.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Feb 13, 2014 12:36:13 GMT
I don't care a shit how they play. They are not bloody ENGLISH!!!! This is an English league. Do they still play under the taff FA or have they now decided to use our rules? Fuck them off to the welsh leagues where they belong!
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Post by hollybush on Feb 13, 2014 12:40:07 GMT
I don't care a shit how they play. They are not bloody ENGLISH!!!! This is an English league. Do they still play under the taff FA or have they now decided to use our rules? Fuck them off to the welsh leagues where they belong! Just wondering; is this EDL policy?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 12:41:43 GMT
I don't care a shit how they play. They are not bloody ENGLISH!!!! This is an English league. Do they still play under the taff FA or have they now decided to use our rules? Fuck them off to the welsh leagues where they belong!
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Post by Davef on Feb 13, 2014 12:45:58 GMT
I think we ought to get a list going of Stafford's favourite Welshmen. I'll start. No.1 - Mark Hughes No.2 - Tony Pulis.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Feb 13, 2014 12:46:53 GMT
I think we ought to get a list going of Stafford's favourite Welshmen. I'll start. No.1 - Mark Hughes No.2 - Tony Pulis.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 12:47:06 GMT
I think we ought to get a list going of Stafford's favourite Welshmen. I'll start. No.1 - Mark Hughes No.2 - Tony Pulis. and i'm going to take a guess that TP is the only welshman in his book that DOESN'T fall into the category of "Dirty sheep shagging cunts" and DOESN'T need to fuck off back to Wales where he belongs
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