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Post by y2j on Feb 11, 2014 10:41:20 GMT
The big man's reputation seems to be more positive now he's not playing than when he did play isn't he? Did a lot more than many people realised and the Mama / Fuller partnership in it's prime was bloody good.
Gone but not forgotten.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 10:42:44 GMT
Thats a relief, i saw the title of this thread and thought he had died
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Post by y2j on Feb 11, 2014 10:51:12 GMT
Haha bloody hell, after reading it again, it does suggest that!
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Post by SidibeGod on Feb 11, 2014 10:53:14 GMT
Ultimate team player and sound bloke. For anyone considering negative posts about the guy, I suggest you wait until you've read his BOOK. Not a literary masterpiece, I know, but it gives a good insight into his character. |
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Post by y2j on Feb 11, 2014 11:22:47 GMT
My Dad has just finished reading that and says the same. Look forward to reading it.
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Post by peadar87 on Feb 11, 2014 11:56:55 GMT
Mama Sidibe, Sidibe, Mama Sidibe....
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Post by Gods on Feb 11, 2014 12:03:08 GMT
Mama was great for us. His final contract extension was a bit daft though, Mama was "forgotten but not gone" for his last 2 seasons  |
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Post by metalhead on Feb 11, 2014 12:04:55 GMT
I grew to appreciate Mama the more he played and really, I miss him in a lot of ways more than others from that time, excluding perhaps Fuller and Lawrence. It puts petulant self-centered individuals like Kenwyne Jones into context really.
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Post by y2j on Feb 11, 2014 12:08:51 GMT
I grew to appreciate Mama the more he played and really, I miss him in a lot of ways more than others from that time, excluding perhaps Fuller and Lawrence. It puts petulant self-centered individuals like Kenwyne Jones into context really. Spot on! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 12:13:19 GMT
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Feb 11, 2014 12:19:46 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Feb 11, 2014 17:31:12 GMT
Possibly more productive than recent partnerships , I loved Mama , shame he was not more relaxed with a lot of his chances but did a great job for the team when he was here , his Villa winner will live on
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 18:59:13 GMT
SIDIBE FOR PRESIDENT #2
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 11, 2014 19:01:52 GMT
I had forgotten him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 19:09:37 GMT
Thought he had died when I read the thread.
Very limited footballer that wouldn't have got a game in any other team in the prem
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Post by basingstokie on Feb 11, 2014 19:21:45 GMT
Never any doubt that his partnership with Fuller got the best out of both of them and enabled them both to play at a level higher than their talent alone suggested.
We benefited from that so no complaints about Mama from me.
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Post by parttimelurker on Feb 11, 2014 19:56:26 GMT
Thought he had died when I read the thread. Very limited footballer that wouldn't have got a game in any other team in the prem Rubbish! I'm sure he'd get a game for Palace.  Anyway, he was doing better in the Prem than the Champ really until his injuries came. Fuller always said he was his favourite strike partner - a good enough reason for me. |
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 11, 2014 20:09:43 GMT
Never any doubt that his partnership with Fuller got the best out of both of them and enabled them both to play at a level higher than their talent alone suggested. We benefited from that so no complaints about Mama from me. Disagree Fuller was good enough for the premiership and was crucial to us getting up and staying up. Mama got the best of what he had but the success we had was in spite of him not because of him. |
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Post by stantheman on Feb 11, 2014 21:18:32 GMT
That winner against Villa was my best ever goal celebration in 39 years of watching us home and away!
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Post by foxysgloves on Feb 11, 2014 21:46:53 GMT
Never any doubt that his partnership with Fuller got the best out of both of them and enabled them both to play at a level higher than their talent alone suggested. We benefited from that so no complaints about Mama from me. Disagree Fuller was good enough for the premiership and was crucial to us getting up and staying up. Mama got the best of what he had but the success we had was in spite of him not because of him. Hmmmmmm.....so according to you we got promoted despite being handicapped by Mama. In other words, with ten men. And then we survive comfortably despite the handicap of SJW according to several other esteemed posters. In other words, with ten men. If only through all those years in the doldrums the likes of Brian Little, Chris Kamara and Chic Bates had stumbled on this secret formula!! |
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Post by march4 on Feb 11, 2014 22:18:41 GMT
One of the greatest players of all time.
I can't think of another footballer in the history of the game who had a specific team position named after him.
And that headed pass at Burnley was probably the greatest pass any player has completed in our 150 year history. He beat 15 defenders and 3 goalkeepers in the air to put the ball straight to Tuncay from one of Rory's missiles.
We have spent over £20m trying and failing to adequately replace him. We will spend another £20m and we still won't find anyone as good.
And added to that he was a model professional.
We will all be very lucky to see a player so good ever again.
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Post by Rose City Potter on Feb 11, 2014 22:34:35 GMT
That was one of the best mentals I can remember, I was right behind that goal and went beserk when it went in!!! |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 11, 2014 22:34:52 GMT
Firstly Mama is and was an exceptional gentleman with an impeccable character and a very nice bloke.
We got promoted thanks to the brilliance and goals of Ricardo Fuller who made things happen out of nothing in a way that we are seldom privileged to see, the exceptional contribution and goals of Liam Lawrence who had his best ever season and a very solid midfield and defence.
Mama's part in the whole thing was to score four goals (two came in one game) in a promotion winning side as a forward. He was there as nothing more than an awkward spoiler reflecting perfectly everything that was bad about the previous managers approach to football. He was there to get in the way, be destructive. There was nothing creative about what Mama was there for and the truth is he was never good enough to be any more at Championship level, never mind Premier League.
Glorifying his contribution to the extent some do is rather insulting to the brilliance of Fuller and Lawrence in the promotion season. That pair won us promotion by making the most and more out of the practically nothing Pulis football at Stoke offered and yet we have endless threads glorifying the contribution of a nice lad who Fuller wouldn't even pass to in the box most of the time - and for good reason.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 11, 2014 22:55:10 GMT
Disagree Fuller was good enough for the premiership and was crucial to us getting up and staying up. Mama got the best of what he had but the success we had was in spite of him not because of him. Hmmmmmm.....so according to you we got promoted despite being handicapped by Mama. In other words, with ten men. And then we survive comfortably despite the handicap of SJW according to several other esteemed posters. In other words, with ten men. If only through all those years in the doldrums the likes of Brian Little, Chris Kamara and Chic Bates had stumbled on this secret formula!! If only through all those years the managers you mention had a £100m to spend but as for playing with 10 men Bryan Small, O'Neil Donaldson and many others prove they tried it. To answer your question, no 11 men 10 footballers. Now seriously Fuller not good enough for the premiership. |
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Post by stantheman on Feb 11, 2014 23:50:13 GMT
Firstly Mama is and was an exceptional gentleman with an impeccable character and a very nice bloke. We got promoted thanks to the brilliance and goals of Ricardo Fuller who made things happen out of nothing in a way that we are seldom privileged to see, the exceptional contribution and goals of Liam Lawrence who had his best ever season and a very solid midfield and defence. Mama's part in the whole thing was to score four goals (two came in one game) in a promotion winning side as a forward. He was there as nothing more than an awkward spoiler reflecting perfectly everything that was bad about the previous managers approach to football. He was there to get in the way, be destructive. There was nothing creative about what Mama was there for and the truth is he was never good enough to be any more at Championship level, never mind Premier League. Glorifying his contribution to the extent some do is rather insulting to the brilliance of Fuller and Lawrence in the promotion season. That pair won us promotion by making the most and more out of the practically nothing Pulis football at Stoke offered and yet we have endless threads glorifying the contribution of a nice lad who Fuller wouldn't even pass to in the box most of the time - and for good reason. When I saw this thread, I just knew you'd add the tripe you've mentioned above. You just couldn't resist another pop at Pulis, even though the entire thread is about Mama, and you give such a back handed compliment to Mama in your opening paragraph, it's nauseating. A similar thread about Mama was posted on here a month or two ago, just after he launched his book. Everyone was saying what a top man he was, what good memories they had of him etc, etc and you referred to him as a 'talentless lump', and basically pissed on the parade of positive posts that had been made by others. I had the audacity to disagree with you, and you referred to me as a 'gimp', even though there is no such word in the Oxford Dictionary. As someone so righteous as a Global Moderator, you really do talk some shite, and surely you don't advocate people on here calling other people names do you? Ask Fuller, Lawrence and Co (as I have done) who was the most integral part of the Promotion winning team, and they'll tell you the same name, but you carry on spouting the same old shite. Keep up the good work. |
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Post by RAF on Feb 11, 2014 23:52:33 GMT
Nice bloke, didn't have a fucking clue it came off his head! Mama not me
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Post by kavinoz on Feb 12, 2014 1:14:07 GMT
One of the greatest players of all time. I can't think of another footballer in the history of the game who had a specific team position named after him. And that headed pass at Burnley was probably the greatest pass any player has completed in our 150 year history. He beat 15 defenders and 3 goalkeepers in the air to put the ball straight to Tuncay from one of Rory's missiles. We have spent over £20m trying and failing to adequately replace him. We will spend another £20m and we still won't find anyone as good. And added to that he was a model professional. We will all be very lucky to see a player so good ever again.   |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 12, 2014 1:15:28 GMT
A beefed-up Martin Carruthers.
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Post by mark71 on Feb 12, 2014 1:24:29 GMT
Firstly Mama is and was an exceptional gentleman with an impeccable character and a very nice bloke. We got promoted thanks to the brilliance and goals of Ricardo Fuller who made things happen out of nothing in a way that we are seldom privileged to see, the exceptional contribution and goals of Liam Lawrence who had his best ever season and a very solid midfield and defence. Mama's part in the whole thing was to score four goals (two came in one game) in a promotion winning side as a forward. He was there as nothing more than an awkward spoiler reflecting perfectly everything that was bad about the previous managers approach to football. He was there to get in the way, be destructive. There was nothing creative about what Mama was there for and the truth is he was never good enough to be any more at Championship level, never mind Premier League. Glorifying his contribution to the extent some do is rather insulting to the brilliance of Fuller and Lawrence in the promotion season. That pair won us promotion by making the most and more out of the practically nothing Pulis football at Stoke offered and yet we have endless threads glorifying the contribution of a nice lad who Fuller wouldn't even pass to in the box most of the time - and for good reason. You forgot to mention cresswell, His contribution goes unrecognised by most. He was the unsung hero, unfortunately he was another left in the team for far too long and his contribution is always overlooked because of his Premiership appearances. |
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Post by smokeontrent on Feb 12, 2014 5:58:11 GMT
Some people need to take their Stoke tinted glasses off...
Yes Mama was a gent and model professional etc etc.
However, good footballer he certainly was not. Anyone with half a footballing brain would say exactly the same. His touch was awful, finishing dire and many would say he was extremely fortunate to hit the heights of the Premier league.
And yes I did have a massive mental after his Villa goal, but he didn't really know much about it, he just jumped and it bounced off the back of his head.
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