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Post by djduncanjames on Feb 7, 2014 0:05:47 GMT
Is there a time limit on this sort of thing? Or is he their's at first nod. Surely if we lost him he would go there... :-(
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Post by 4kingal on Feb 7, 2014 0:08:22 GMT
Think that 'clause' has already ran out.
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Post by stokemanusa on Feb 7, 2014 0:16:12 GMT
United have been looking abroad for centerbacks for a while now. The Porto fiasco and I believe they were looking everywhere but England... I think if they are desperate to get one in they are now going to pay for it now everyone knows they are coming knocking. But as vidic is now said he's leaving it only increases the price...Ryan most likely will get a look but its in our favour if we are to deal now which is good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 0:17:28 GMT
New clause in the contract: tell the bastards to feck off if they come calling.
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Feb 7, 2014 0:23:25 GMT
Was there one in the first place who knows
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Post by lastoftheldk on Feb 7, 2014 1:47:47 GMT
its bull shite
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Post by djduncanjames on Feb 7, 2014 3:28:54 GMT
We did something similar with Foster no? Made money with a clause.. I thought we bought Ryan for 1 million with Manchester United, well Fergie, only agreeing to the sale if they had first option - aka buy back clause?
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Post by pyrus on Feb 7, 2014 6:48:44 GMT
I don't know where aI picked this up, but I have it in my head that ManU had first refusal to match any price being offered by another club and that there is a 25% sell-on clause in the contract (which sounds very high to me). I would hope there would be a time limit on these things, but you certainly hear of sell on fees being paid all the time, even after a good few years.
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Post by vahl on Feb 7, 2014 6:57:50 GMT
I don't know where aI picked this up, but I have it in my head that ManU had first refusal to match any price being offered by another club and that there is a 25% sell-on clause in the contract (which sounds very high to me). I would hope there would be a time limit on these things, but you certainly hear of sell on fees being paid all the time, even after a good few years. You're right about first refusal. This is what Tony Pulis said some time ago: "Manchester United have a buy-back clause and they have the first option on Ryan at any price or bid we receive. So if we get a bid for him, we tell Sir Alex and then it's up to him. I think that Alex is being very astute and clever and experienced and you would expect no less from the man." Was there one in the first place who knows Most definitely was. Is it still valid now? There's a question. I'd say yes, though.
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Post by SCFC92 on Feb 7, 2014 7:19:24 GMT
Sure it was a first refusal thing where if we accept a bid they are able to come in, match the bid and they get first "dibs" on him. No buy back clause what so ever.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Feb 7, 2014 7:58:22 GMT
well with the shit at the back Fergie left Moyes they'd be mad not to exercise it if it exists - #legacy
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 7, 2014 8:18:49 GMT
He must have aigned a new contract since signing. Therefore any such clause is unlikely to be in his new contract unless his agent or ryan himself really wanted it in there.
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Post by lordb on Feb 7, 2014 8:39:31 GMT
Man Utd have to be informed if any bid is received
that's it
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 7, 2014 9:33:29 GMT
I thought when they signed Richie De Leat ,that part of that deal was that the clause in Ryan's contract was cancelled and the original clause was that what ever a team offered for Ryan say 10 million UTD had the option to match the bid and then have first refusal.
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Feb 7, 2014 9:43:30 GMT
New clause in the contract: tell the bastards to feck off if they come calling. It's great to see that Ryan as the ear of the Ambassador, To give him advice on contract negotiations, now to deal with the rest of the clubs in Europe. It's all in the detail Ambassador.
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Post by fca47 on Feb 7, 2014 9:47:25 GMT
I thought when they signed Richie De Leat ,that part of that deal was that the clause in Ryan's contract was cancelled and the original clause was that what ever a team offered for Ryan say 10 million UTD had the option to match the bid and then have first refusal. That's right.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 7, 2014 10:13:05 GMT
Was there one in the first place who knows Absolutely, it has always sounded like a load of tosh to me, regardless of TP's quotes, primarily because there would be no value in such a clause, so why waste time putting it in in the contract in the first place? 1. Man U would know (as a matter of course) if there was an offer in for Ryan because Ryan's agent would (if he was worth his salt) make sure that every potential suitor for him, knew that there was a bid in for him - it can only strengthen Ryan's negotiating hand the more people who know about the bid. 2. At the end of the day if Man U matched (say) Chelsea's bid and Ryan wanted to join Chelsea, then such a clause wouldn't force Ryan to go anywhere, he could join whichever club HE decided to go to. 3. Every interested party would have equal chance to make the highest (and that's the important bit) bid regardless of whether Man U had such a clause in the original contract - making it completely redundant in the first place.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 7, 2014 12:04:06 GMT
Does anyone really think we will be selling Shawcross any time soon?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 12:27:56 GMT
Does anyone really think we will be selling Shawcross any time soon? I hope not.
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Post by nickstokefc on Feb 7, 2014 12:30:31 GMT
when ryan got his call up.pulis stated there was no clause in the contract, but in respect to fergie he would alway give united the chance to buy him, he said that if the club recieved any offers from clubs for hihe would let united know, and give them the chance to bid
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 7, 2014 12:52:58 GMT
He must have aigned a new contract since signing. Therefore any such clause is unlikely to be in his new contract unless his agent or ryan himself really wanted it in there. It has nothing to do with Ryan's contract - either the one he signed when we bought him or any subsequent extension. As said above, if we decide to accept a bid from another club, we have to give Man Utd the chance to match that bid - that's it! Even if that happens, then (like all players) Ryan has the right to decide if he wishes to move whilst he is still under contract and, if he does, whether he wants to move to any particular club who have made an offer which we accept. We don't have slavery under our law so Ryan has the right not to move if he doesn't want to.
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