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Post by captainmainwaring on Feb 3, 2014 20:35:43 GMT
Stoke could well have spent £10m in the January window. Lee Cattermole was almost signed for a reported fee of £5m and I'm sure if the right forward had been available,at the right price etc, they would have spent another £5m.
Not wanting to tempt fate by saying that if Stoke retain their Premier league place, which I'm sure they will, let's hope that they look back on this transfer window and say we saved £10m and that money is now additional to next season's transfer budget.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 3, 2014 20:39:19 GMT
And we've just saved wages on edu and pennant, I'm assuming odem's 18 months is near enough covered by jones wages.
Hughes would have earned a decent budget
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 20:40:43 GMT
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Post by foster on Feb 3, 2014 20:41:52 GMT
Any deadwood contracts running out this summer? Got to consider those savings as well.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Feb 3, 2014 20:46:03 GMT
its that all people think about, spend, spend
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Post by alster on Feb 3, 2014 20:51:15 GMT
its that all people think about, spend, spend No but really we need to spend some major money on the squad. |
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Post by salopstick on Feb 3, 2014 20:51:19 GMT
Any deadwood contracts running out this summer? Got to consider those savings as well. Not really deadwood but don't tommy and Matty run out in summer may not extended, I would hope Wilko and Wilson do |
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Post by captainmainwaring on Feb 3, 2014 21:01:02 GMT
Anybody else's contract running out, besides Tommy's and Matty's? Do you think any of the current squad of player might get moved on?
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Feb 3, 2014 21:01:32 GMT
Perhaps that's what he is waiting to do, save as much money now, wait until the summer, and complete a overhaul.
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Post by captainmainwaring on Feb 3, 2014 21:02:33 GMT
That sounds like a plan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 21:03:47 GMT
We need to get our priorities in order folks.
Forget transfers, think Pizza.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 21:41:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 23:16:29 GMT
its that all people think about, spend, spend Happy with what we have for this season, minor changes in the summer but not an overhaul. Quite happy to forget about any transfers until after the World Cup  |
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Post by bettyswallox on Feb 3, 2014 23:25:38 GMT
Contracts expiring in the summer are:
Sorensen
Wilkinson
Wilson
Etherington
Loans to expire:
Guidetti
Assaidi
Out of that lot I'd probably only retain Wilson to be honest, depending on whether Begovic leaves or not (in which case I'd keep Sorensen for an extra year).
Wilko doesn't seem to be rated be Hughes and Shotton is probably the better long-term back-up given Wilko's injury record.
Ethers is shot, while Guidetti will go back to Citeh.
I'd do all I could to get Assaidi permanently if possible, though.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 4, 2014 0:29:09 GMT
Contracts expiring in the summer are: Sorensen Wilkinson Wilson Etherington Loans to expire: Guidetti Assaidi Out of that lot I'd probably only retain Wilson to be honest, depending on whether Begovic leaves or not (in which case I'd keep Sorensen for an extra year). Wilko doesn't seem to be rated be Hughes and Shotton is probably the better long-term back-up given Wilko's injury record. Ethers is shot, while Guidetti will go back to Citeh. I'd do all I could to get Assaidi permanently if possible, though. We need to factor in Kightly, Jerome, Ness, Shea and Agudelo as returnees too. How/whether we manage dignified exits for Wilko, and Ethers will be interesting. And if we manage to wave goodbye to Jerome. And of course it's difficult to predict because we may have extra spends from losing a few jewels. The continued niggling issue of Crouchie's 'instability' {wanted by Harry and Tony talk?} may be settled... I'm a fan of loans. I'm all for a bit of tea leaf reading and gazing into crystals, but it's better to concentrate on who we've got to call on to help keep us safe. Wilko is still here, and hasn't scored yet.... |
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Post by bolders on Feb 4, 2014 2:11:26 GMT
Wilko will stay, he'd probably take a paycut to stay, PC will want a local lad in the squad
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Post by jeycov on Feb 4, 2014 8:24:50 GMT
Let's not be too complacent, we are still in a fight to stay in this league
We need to get the best from this current crop of players - I think that we will do enough to be safe.
We will also need retain the likes of Shawcross, Cameron etc, as important as any new signings.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Feb 4, 2014 8:35:42 GMT
All the ITK nonsense on here kind of now takes the enjoyment out of the window as it tends to end up with largely the same outcome.
This summer, should we retain our Premier League status for another season, I think I might just sit back and see what happens.
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Post by Menorca Stokie on Feb 4, 2014 8:53:30 GMT
There really is so much talk about the financial fair play from Stoke and I don't see much from other clubs apart from Man Citeh.
Is our squad really that much bigger and much more highly paid than other similar sized clubs?
I'm aware that Sunderland are a much bigger club fiscally however with all their spending in the summer and the few signings they bought in January must see them with a massive wage bill and expenditure in general.
Palace and Hull have brought a lot of new players in since promotion.
Whether our lack of spending was deliberate or just through lack of finding the correct players I don't know however surely with the increase in income from the Premier league this season our books should be looking much healthier?
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Post by alster on Feb 4, 2014 9:07:26 GMT
There really is so much talk about the financial fair play from Stoke and I don't see much from other clubs apart from Man Citeh. Is our squad really that much bigger and much more highly paid than other similar sized clubs? I'm aware that Sunderland are a much bigger club fiscally however with all their spending in the summer and the few signings they bought in January must see them with a massive wage bill and expenditure in general. Palace and Hull have brought a lot of new players in since promotion. Whether our lack of spending was deliberate or just through lack of finding the correct players I don't know however surely with the increase in income from the Premier league this season our books should be looking much healthier? As Man City have proved FFP is quite easily circumvented by inflated sponsorship deals. The Coates' can put as much money into Stoke as they like. The question is why aren't they. Is it because they're no longer willing to, or do they have a plan to sort a lot of the previous mess out before trying to push on again in a more thought through intelligent way. Its all very interesting and they're playing their cards very close to their chest. I can understand their reluctance as a massive amount of money has been squandered on junk but the current policy or poor execution of it you would expect to bite us on the arse eventually unless something changes. |
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 4, 2014 9:08:12 GMT
Perhaps that's what he is waiting to do, save as much money now, wait until the summer, and complete a overhaul. Dangerous game to play when the bottom half of the league is tighter than a ducks arse. |
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Post by MuddyWoody on Feb 4, 2014 9:51:01 GMT
I would hope that given the lack of spending in the last two windows MH will be given more leeway in the summer, assuming we retain premiership status.
I think we'll see a lot more ins and outs come the end of the season.
Scholes out!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 4, 2014 10:31:33 GMT
Wilko will stay, he'd probably take a paycut to stay, PC will want a local lad in the squad Shotton? Sent from my GT-I9192 using proboards |
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Post by alster on Feb 4, 2014 10:35:39 GMT
I would hope that given the lack of spending in the last two windows MH will be given more leeway in the summer, assuming we retain premiership status. I think we'll see a lot more ins and outs come the end of the season. Hopefully we'll see the first significant transfer activity at Stoke for quite some time in the Summer. We do seem to be targeting younger more exciting players but your man keeps messing every deal up. Not sure whether that's because he shit or he's actually under instruction to do that. Scholes out! |
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Post by dapperdave on Feb 4, 2014 10:45:29 GMT
When does Irelands 60grand a week contract end.
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Post by ukcstokie on Feb 4, 2014 11:00:17 GMT
Contracts expiring in the summer are: Sorensen Wilkinson Wilson Etherington Loans to expire: Guidetti Assaidi Out of that lot I'd probably only retain Wilson to be honest, depending on whether Begovic leaves or not (in which case I'd keep Sorensen for an extra year). Wilko doesn't seem to be rated be Hughes and Shotton is probably the better long-term back-up given Wilko's injury record. Ethers is shot, while Guidetti will go back to Citeh. I'd do all I could to get Assaidi permanently if possible, though. Wilson signed an extension last year (when he had his broken leg). I think he's contracted until 2016. espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1205954/stoke-defender-marc-wilson-signs-new-long-term-deal?cc=5739 |
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Post by Clem Fandango on Feb 4, 2014 11:02:40 GMT
I do genuinely believe that there is money to spend if Hughes can identify the target he wants. I'm sure as always the biggest hurdle is our wage structure and if we can shift a bit of deadwood from the wage bill then that might give Hughes the room he needs to bring in some additional quality. I'm still quite happy with the business we've done and wouldn't object too much to similar business in the summer providing we bring in that elusive striker. We've been very sensible up to now.
Also does FFP apply to every season in isolation or is cumulative over a set number of seasons?
The reason I ask is by us pocketing the tv revenue for this season and not blowing it on transfers does that then allow us to make a slightly bigger loss next year when signing a few players to replace those we lost at the end of their contracts?
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Post by agingerstokie on Feb 4, 2014 11:08:38 GMT
I do genuinely believe that there is money to spend if Hughes can identify the target he wants. I'm sure as always the biggest hurdle is our wage structure and if we can shift a bit of deadwood from the wage bill then that might give Hughes the room he needs to bring in some additional quality. I'm still quite happy with the business we've done and wouldn't object too much to similar business in the summer providing we bring in that elusive striker. We've been very sensible up to now. Also does FFP apply to every season in isolation or is cumulative over a set number of seasons? The reason I ask is by us pocketing the tv revenue for this season and not blowing it on transfers does that then allow us to make a slightly bigger loss next year when signing a few players to replace those we lost at the end of their contracts? Pretty sure it's a loss of 15 mil over 3 seasons that gets you charged by FFP |
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Post by nott1 on Feb 4, 2014 11:58:21 GMT
No point having a budget for transfers when the only thought on our negotiators minds is pizza FFS!
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Post by bolders on Feb 4, 2014 12:03:10 GMT
Wilko will stay, he'd probably take a paycut to stay, PC will want a local lad in the squad Shotton? Sent from my GT-I9192 using proboards Be loaned out again i bet you |
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