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Post by redditchpotter on Feb 1, 2014 21:53:13 GMT
van persie was coming back fron offside position...but no mention from commentators
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 1, 2014 21:54:58 GMT
Welbeck was in an offside position, but I don't think van Pussy was! Anyway we got the 3 points and that is all that matters!  |
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Post by redditchpotter on Feb 1, 2014 21:57:23 GMT
we'll see what Kammy says tommoz lol
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Feb 1, 2014 21:59:29 GMT
Goal was onside, Wilson should of left it alone, we were unlucky that we didn't put 3/4 past them.
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Post by jarhead on Feb 1, 2014 22:00:17 GMT
If the liability Wilson has smashed the ball away instead of trying to bring it down like fuckin zidane abs defend properly then yes 2-0 but every game he will mess up and cost us a goal or 10!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2014 22:01:06 GMT
It wasn't offside, good ball from mata and good finish but awful defending again by wilson
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Post by scfcwebby on Feb 1, 2014 22:02:40 GMT
we'll see what Kammy says tommoz lol And bego is on the show so I am expecting Kammy to drop to his knees and take bego's full length when he discusses his save from Rooney free kick! |
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 1, 2014 22:03:51 GMT
Despite being a good footballer Wilson makes mistakes too frequently for my liking!
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Post by march4 on Feb 1, 2014 22:11:39 GMT
I don't really see what Wilson could do other than attempt to intercept the through ball to Wellbeck.
Wellbeck was behind him but was well offside, but how was any defender to know that?
I can't believe there is a defender alive who would have let that ball go through to Wellbeck hoping that the lino would put his flag up.
(And yes I know Wilson made a bodge of the interception - but I hope you can see the point I am trying to make).
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Post by ken3 on Feb 1, 2014 22:17:28 GMT
Cameron should be central
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 0:10:43 GMT
Wilson did alright, but his one mistake let them in. Shame really.
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Post by Gods on Feb 2, 2014 0:13:49 GMT
I don't really see what Wilson could do other than attempt to intercept the through ball to Wellbeck. Wellbeck was behind him but was well offside, but how was any defender to know that? I can't believe there is a defender alive who would have let that ball go through to Wellbeck hoping that the lino would put his flag up. (And yes I know Wilson made a bodge of the interception - but I hope you can see the point I am trying to make). Yes, your point is a good one, but Wilson has 'previous' so don't expect to see him cut any slack on here! |
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Post by adi on Feb 2, 2014 0:15:17 GMT
van persie was coming back fron offside position...but no mention from commentators Seen, but new rules makes it cool and the gang |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Feb 2, 2014 1:36:51 GMT
Wilson was the best defender on the pitch
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 2, 2014 1:56:05 GMT
So defenders should leave it because someone might be offside? What the fuck is football coming to?
Welbeck was offside.
The ball was played to Welbeck.
Wilson has to try and intercept the ball irrespective, if he doesn't and Welbeck isn't offside then he looks like a right mug.
It was easy a offside decision as You're likely to see! Just because it didn't reach him doesn't matter, if was offside.
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Post by MadMarko10 on Feb 2, 2014 1:59:57 GMT
I aren't even remotely arsed if it was offside, onside, whatever. The most important thing is that we won 2-1.
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Post by tuum on Feb 2, 2014 3:00:15 GMT
That's why the offside rule is a joke. When the initial ball was played through both v.Persie and Wellbeck were in an offside position (under the old rules). Wilson stretches to make the interception, ends up on his arse and by this time the two Man U players are back onside with a massive advantage. They were both interfering with play in the first instance because Wilson must have been aware of them and their position may have influenced Wilson's decision making. However, under the existing rules there was nothing wrong with their goal. I just don't like the rule and think it is unnecessary. I am a dinosaur who thinks that if you are on the pitch then you are interfering with play. I liked the offside rule when it was simple.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 2, 2014 3:10:01 GMT
That's why the offside rule is a joke. When the initial ball was played through both v.Persie and Wellbeck were in an offside position (under the old rules). Wilson stretches to make the interception, ends up on his arse and by this time the two Man U players are back onside with a massive advantage. They were both interfering with play in the first instance because Wilson must have been aware of them and their position may have influenced Wilson's decision making. However, under the existing rules there was nothing wrong with their goal. I just don't like the rule and think it is unnecessary. I am a dinosaur who thinks that if you are on the pitch then you are interfering with play. I liked the offside rule when it was simple. I just can't see how You can be in the area and not interfering with the defence or 'keeper? What the fuck are You doing there if You're not interfering? It's a load of old shit. I can see why the new rules make sense out of the area but You shouldn't be encouraging defenders to allow passes to go through to strikers who might be offside. It's crazy. |
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Post by tsm on Feb 2, 2014 3:28:50 GMT
That's why the offside rule is a joke. When the initial ball was played through both v.Persie and Wellbeck were in an offside position (under the old rules). Wilson stretches to make the interception, ends up on his arse and by this time the two Man U players are back onside with a massive advantage. They were both interfering with play in the first instance because Wilson must have been aware of them and their position may have influenced Wilson's decision making. However, under the existing rules there was nothing wrong with their goal. I just don't like the rule and think it is unnecessary. I am a dinosaur who thinks that if you are on the pitch then you are interfering with play. I liked the offside rule when it was simple. I just can't see how You can be in the area and not interfering with the defence or 'keeper? What the fuck are You doing there if You're not interfering? It's a load of old shit. I can see why the new rules make sense out of the area but You shouldn't be encouraging defenders to allow passes to go through to strikers who might be offside. It's crazy. This is what I was saying to my old man. The defender has GOT to be concerned with the other player in the box (Wellbeck), leaving a little more space for Van Persie. Should have been ruled offside. But, it's Man U - they aren't getting ALL the decisions this year, just a whole crapload. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 2, 2014 3:32:17 GMT
I just can't see how You can be in the area and not interfering with the defence or 'keeper? What the fuck are You doing there if You're not interfering? It's a load of old shit. I can see why the new rules make sense out of the area but You shouldn't be encouraging defenders to allow passes to go through to strikers who might be offside. It's crazy. This is what I was saying to my old man. The defender has GOT to be concerned with the other player in the box (Wellbeck), leaving a little more space for Van Persie. Should have been ruled offside. But, it's Man U - they aren't getting ALL the decisions this year, just a whole crapload. I don't see how any defender worth his salt wouldn't be. Of course Wilson could have and probably should have done better but he only played it because Welbeck was there. I'd twat any defender of mine who didn't play the ball tbh. According to the rules (see the ref thread, page 3) I'd be wrong. But what a load of old shite those rules are. |
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Post by pieman72 on Feb 2, 2014 6:10:42 GMT
Well beck is off side and behind Wilson for the first ball in which is why Wilson attempts the clearance as Wellbeck moves towards the ball. So therefore interfering with play and a stoke free kick for offside. Just watched MOTD does Rooney stamp on Pieters when he blocks the shot second half when he got injured.
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Post by MuddyWoody on Feb 2, 2014 7:51:17 GMT
If Welbeck isnt offside then the offside rule is a load of bollocks and should be changed urgently.
Yes Pooney did stamp on Pieters.
Scholes out!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 2, 2014 7:54:01 GMT
My biggest issue with the goal was Wilson not clearing his lines properly again.
He does well but has these unforced errors around, he simply has to cut these out of his game.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 2, 2014 8:50:54 GMT
My biggest issue with the goal was Wilson not clearing his lines properly again. He does well but has these unforced errors around, he simply has to cut these out of his game. This. Seems his one howler a game leads to a goal. |
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