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Post by kevkj on Jan 30, 2014 8:07:09 GMT
Some will say he played decent,maybe he did but he completely missed the header that left the fat american through against Nzonzi.
Totally mistimed it,couldnt imagine Huth doing that,bread and butter.
Wlaking mistake most games just wait until saturday for his next showing.
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Post by jeycov on Jan 30, 2014 8:18:55 GMT
There are occasions when we need to just "get rid of the ball" imo.
We are playing fellow defenders into trouble too often..
I don't want to see a return to just hitting the ball long, time after time, but there are times when we are trying to be too clever - and it has cost us
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Post by mvtt on Jan 30, 2014 8:22:38 GMT
He consistently costs us games. He's woeful. We better be in the market for a CB because Wilson should never play another game for us. We should ship him out first thing. I'd say he's a jack of all trades, a master of none but he's not good enough to be a jack of any trade
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Post by mcf on Jan 30, 2014 8:34:37 GMT
All i know is this.
When Wilson played left back and we had 2 proper centre backs that were proven at this level then we had a very decent defence.
We have replaced him with someone who is either a) not as good or b) not playing as well because he's being asked to do things that he shouldn't be doing
When we played Munny at centre back then we got creamed at Everton and he also looked completely inept.
Basically, we have a defence that is no where near as good as what it was and only Hughes can be blamed for that.
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Post by mvtt on Jan 30, 2014 8:37:53 GMT
The defense didn't look incredible before, but it only started looking terrible after Huth got hurt and Wilson started playing CB. Pieters is exponentially better than Wilson at left back and as a player in general.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 30, 2014 8:50:25 GMT
He's very erratic and seems to always make a few mistakes a game lol He's a good cover player for huth but we need the German asap...
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Post by mvtt on Jan 30, 2014 8:56:46 GMT
He's very erratic and seems to always make a few mistakes a game lol He's a good cover player for huth but we need the German asap... He's not good cover for anybody. What good is his versatility when even at his best he's awful? Waste of wages and the weakest link in our side |
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Jan 30, 2014 9:51:22 GMT
All i know is this. When Wilson played left back and we had 2 proper centre backs that were proven at this level then we had a very decent defence. We have replaced him with someone who is either a) not as good or b) not playing as well because he's being asked to do things that he shouldn't be doing When we played Munny at centre back then we got creamed at Everton and he also looked completely inept. Basically, we have a defence that is no where near as good as what it was and only Hughes can be blamed for that. I think so too. I mean, he must have been praying REALLY hard for Huth to get injured. I bet he was gutted when Shawcross stood up and decided to play on with a broken wrist. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 10:55:31 GMT
He is too slow!
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Post by onewaynebiggins on Jan 30, 2014 11:18:26 GMT
Wasnt it Bego that made an almighty fcuk up last night? What was Wilson at fault for?
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Post by parkhallpotter1 on Jan 30, 2014 11:34:13 GMT
Am I the only one who can see Marc Wilson is utter garbage.He isn't on his own I know,but his mistakes are costing us lots of goals against and points ! I don't go along with the argument 'he's not a centre half' what exactly is he ? He's played in loads of positions and been successful in none of them in my opinion.If Huth is injured why have we no replacement for him? bad management in my opinion.
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Post by adamsson on Jan 30, 2014 11:37:35 GMT
Wilson is not up to the job as centre back if the full backs get forwards and the midfield does something other than defending. Even if they didn't I would have my doubts.
But until Huth is fit he is the best we have unless anyone know different.
It was the Capped one who left us with only two centre backs and yes perhaps Hughes should have brought one in but with no money it is difficult and even with everyone fit the attacking players were not upto the job so they had to be the priority.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jan 30, 2014 11:42:19 GMT
All i know is this. When Wilson played left back and we had 2 proper centre backs that were proven at this level then we had a very decent defence. We have replaced him with someone who is either a) not as good or b) not playing as well because he's being asked to do things that he shouldn't be doing When we played Munny at centre back then we got creamed at Everton and he also looked completely inept. Basically, we have a defence that is no where near as good as what it was and only Hughes can be blamed for that. Neph, I actually thought he made a better right back. At left back he was far more awkward and that pull back onto his left did my head in and was an accident waiting to happen. He gets stuffed for pace too often and whilst Pieters isn't working out quite as well as expected, he's a better option that Wilson. I'm not at all sure what we do with the latter, but he's bench fodder for me. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 30, 2014 11:45:28 GMT
All i know is this. When Wilson played left back and we had 2 proper centre backs that were proven at this level then we had a very decent defence. We have replaced him with someone who is either a) not as good or b) not playing as well because he's being asked to do things that he shouldn't be doing When we played Munny at centre back then we got creamed at Everton and he also looked completely inept. Basically, we have a defence that is no where near as good as what it was and only Hughes can be blamed for that. Thing is we've still got those two centre backs but we've been missing one for ages. The debate is there to be had who is more competent out of Pieters and Wilson but we were going to sign Pieters when Tone was here anyway so he'd have utilised the same back four presumably. What we do know is that Wilson is mostly wank at centre back and we are massively missing big Rob. There have been lots of individual errors that you can't legislate for but equally the manager has made some glaring errors as well which I haven't agreed with. Hopefully Huthy will return soon as we desperately need him. I would be tempted to bring Wilko in and then it's a toss up between Wilo and Pieters for the left back berth. If Cattermole does sign then I would actually think about changing to 4-1-3-2 type formation. Bego Wilko Ryan Huth Pieters/Wilson Cattermole Cameron N'Zonzi Adam Guidetti Odemwingie That's how I'd do it anyway. Solid at the back, protection in front of it, energy from Geoff and creativity from Charlie in the middle with two strikers capable of scoring up front. Easier said than done given Huth is injured and LC hasn't even signed yet. |
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Post by ruts66 on Jan 30, 2014 11:49:02 GMT
Expecting Ryan and Huth to go the whole season injury/suspension free was a massive balls up.
The lack of a 3rd proper centre half is killing us as much as the lack of a proper goal scorer...
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Jan 30, 2014 11:52:04 GMT
Am I the only one who can see Marc Wilson is utter garbage.He isn't on his own I know,but his mistakes are costing us lots of goals against and points ! I don't go along with the argument 'he's not a centre half' what exactly is he ? He's played in loads of positions and been successful in none of them in my opinion.If Huth is injured why have we no replacement for him? bad management in my opinion. Correct , Pulis got rid of Upson and never replaced him. Buck stops with him on this one. |
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Post by jacksscfc on Jan 30, 2014 11:55:46 GMT
Upson, Higgy, Woodgate, Collins never replaced, Cameron can play CB but hes excelled at RB so Hughes reluctant to play him there, I would much prefer to see Wilko at RB and Cameron in the centre while Huth out to be honest.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 30, 2014 11:56:24 GMT
Any idea when Huth will be back?
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Post by thebet365 on Jan 30, 2014 11:57:24 GMT
I see we've found the new boo boy.
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Jan 30, 2014 12:01:58 GMT
I see we've found the new boo boy. In fairness he deserves the criticism - he's cocked up too many times now |
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