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Post by stokie1 on Jan 19, 2014 3:17:39 GMT
This is bullshit. I am getting so fed up of people who have no idea having a go at Johnny Walters. The idea that Arny could offer more than SJW is laughable and shows how little you understand the game. Arny is the kind of player that will produce one moment of magic in 20 matches and do nothing at all, or even worse give the ball away and give away needless fouls because he is not a team player. Walters works tirelessly for the team, in training and in matches, is a team player who just wants to win and help his team mates. Any one who would want Arny, Assaidi, Ireland, Adam, Nzonzi or Pennant is quite frankly completely ignorant about what is required to be a premier league footballer.
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Post by potterpaul on Jan 19, 2014 3:26:57 GMT
This is bullshit. I am getting so fed up of people who have no idea having a go at Johnny Walters. The idea that Arny could offer more than SJW is laughable and shows how little you understand the game. Arny is the kind of player that will produce one moment of magic in 20 matches and do nothing at all, or even worse give the ball away and give away needless fouls because he is not a team player. Walters works tirelessly for the team, in training and in matches, is a team player who just wants to win and help his team mates. Any one who would want Arny, Assaidi, Ireland, Adam, Nzonzi or Pennant is quite frankly completely ignorant about what is required to be a premier league footballer. What he wants and what he offers are poles apart. I'm not sure what's going on with the others at the moment, they are all playing shit but people believe they have the ability to change that. That's not the case with JW.
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Post by elystokie on Jan 19, 2014 4:26:53 GMT
This is bullshit. I am getting so fed up of people who have no idea having a go at Johnny Walters. The idea that Arny could offer more than SJW is laughable and shows how little you understand the game. Arny is the kind of player that will produce one moment of magic in 20 matches and do nothing at all, or even worse give the ball away and give away needless fouls because he is not a team player. Walters works tirelessly for the team, in training and in matches, is a team player who just wants to win and help his team mates. Any one who would want Arny, Assaidi, Ireland, Adam, Nzonzi or Pennant is quite frankly completely ignorant about what is required to be a premier league footballer. We'd all happily 'work tirelessly for the team, in training and in matches' for Stoke, especially on the money he gets. However that wouldn't mean we were any fucking good. As you seem so knowledgable regarding the pre-requisites of a Premier League player perhaps you could point out what they are and how JW fulfils them? Number 1 - Hard work and commitment I'll let you do the rest...
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Post by knype on Jan 19, 2014 8:01:13 GMT
Walters is not a premier league player right at this current moment, he is slow, not creative and offers very little to a struggling team, workrate alone does not make you a football player.
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Post by Northy on Jan 19, 2014 8:16:32 GMT
Not good enough anymore, should be let go. If people say he's in for his defensive duties then have a look at Liverpool's first goal last week, he runs towards the player then just stops giving him time to shoot.
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Post by kurt on Jan 19, 2014 8:58:22 GMT
This is bullshit. I am getting so fed up of people who have no idea having a go at Johnny Walters. The idea that Arny could offer more than SJW is laughable and shows how little you understand the game. Arny is the kind of player that will produce one moment of magic in 20 matches and do nothing at all, or even worse give the ball away and give away needless fouls because he is not a team player. Walters works tirelessly for the team, in training and in matches, is a team player who just wants to win and help his team mates. Any one who would want Arny, Assaidi, Ireland, Adam, Nzonzi or Pennant is quite frankly completely ignorant about what is required to be a premier league footballer. Sorry mate, but your comment is bullshit. Can´t see what Walters entitles to play in PL. I respect his effort and his will, but that´s all. A winger should at least bring some crosse in the penalty area... Walters offers nothing. If you don´t realize, that Arni contributes far more to produce thought-out, offensive scenes, i can´t help you.
"Walters works tirelessly for the team" and "Arni is not a team player"....what a rubbish!
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Post by mvtt on Jan 21, 2014 3:03:35 GMT
Modern day managers need their laptops ramming up their backsides. Its through ProZone and all that guff that players like Walters get the time of day. "His stats are great". Cloughy will be turning in his grave. Actually if it was for stats he probably wouldn't play at all www.whoscored.com/Teams/96
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 21, 2014 3:17:34 GMT
Not good enough anymore, should be let go. If people say he's in for his defensive duties then have a look at Liverpool's first goal last week, he runs towards the player then just stops giving him time to shoot. Im sure they blame cameron for being out of position for that one SJW can do no wrong.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 21, 2014 4:19:15 GMT
SJW has had good (the goal he set up against Chelsea, the ones he scored against Liverpool and Swansea.) and bad (the penalty against Liverpool, the missed chances like the one on Saturday against Palace.) I think we should try Arnie in his spot, and bring him on if Arnie isn't making an impact. I think a competition for that spot between him and Arnie would be good like it has been for Ireland and Adam.
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