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Post by mailman44 on Jan 10, 2014 0:25:49 GMT
Awesome! And not afraid to say it! I rate the lad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 0:32:58 GMT
This is the new post-Pulis world that we need to get used to. We've got players who can be brilliant one minute and anonymous the next. We'll have games where we dominate and win by three (OK, I'm talking about when Hughes has got his players in place) and games where we'll get rolled over. Previously we had solid dependable players who gave everything and sometimes we'd edge the game and sometimes we'd narrowly use. As it stands, I prefer the new way. Others won't. On balance, I think Ireland is worth persevering with and I think he'll get better. I agree about the type of players that we will have under Hughes...In my opinion though Ireland hasn't shown enough brilliance, a couple of nice goals but he has been anonymous for the rest of it. I'm not going to blindly agree with every signing Hughes makes, but he's worked with Ireland before, got the best out of him, and hopefully knows his personality quirks i.e; is he the sort who just plays for a contract? We seem to have a number of players who potentially have the capacity to get better once they're settled in - Assaidi, Ireland, Arnoutovic, possibly Pieters and even Cameron. Of all of these, Ireland is the one Hughes knows best. If we do sign him permanently, I trust Hughes to know what he's doing with him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 0:36:03 GMT
Waste of a wage, he does sod all. Has pissed away a promising career, more interested in cars and his lifestyle. tool...
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 10, 2014 0:40:37 GMT
Waste of a wage, he does sod all. Has pissed away a promising career, more interested in cars and his lifestyle. tool... my thoughts exactly... here comes the proverbial Walters fanboy gang. Que the music. He's showed skill and the ability to play with crouch and get into the box and score with his weaker foot something we've been lacking we can make him permanent save on renegotiation in summer and open a loan spot but please tell us how he's a waste and not SJW or KJ...
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Post by metalhead on Jan 10, 2014 0:54:44 GMT
He didn't play at man city and have early success at villa without possessing great ability, he hasn't had a bad injury and isn't old like our other has-been signings ie gudjohnson, woodgate and Owen etc so there's no reason for him to not get back to his best. You say he didn't play at man city but ask any supporter and they'll tell you that his performances under Hughes were fantastic. He won player of the season for a reason. When mancini arrived, that all changed.
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Post by bmstoke on Jan 10, 2014 0:57:25 GMT
my thoughts exactly... here comes the proverbial Walters fanboy gang. Que the music. He's showed skill and the ability to play with crouch and get into the box and score with his weaker foot something we've been lacking we can make him permanent save on renegotiation in summer and open a loan spot but please tell us how he's a waste and not SJW or KJ... I agree with what you say, but can we please stop with this fanboy shit, it's getting right on my tits.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 10, 2014 1:38:34 GMT
I'm punting a wedge on him being the first Stoke bloke to score a header this Prem season. A bit precipitous to sign the dude in my book, don't like the cut of his jib, his size, nor the shape of his head. I'm hoping the motivation for signing him is about his fitness for purpose and not just to free up a loan space. The ball is in his court to prove me wrong. In my opinion if we're intending to sell Crouch this window, Ireland has no place here.
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Post by Sfance on Jan 10, 2014 2:02:00 GMT
Fantastic move. Get Ireland and Adam competing with each other to start. Brilliant! The future is almost here. Go gettem, Sparky.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 10, 2014 2:50:47 GMT
Can somebody like my previous post thought it was funny myself lol Is there anything lower than begging for likes
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 10, 2014 2:51:50 GMT
my thoughts exactly... here comes the proverbial Walters fanboy gang. Que the music. He's showed skill and the ability to play with crouch and get into the box and score with his weaker foot something we've been lacking we can make him permanent save on renegotiation in summer and open a loan spot but please tell us how he's a waste and not SJW or KJ... I like both, what gang am I in?
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Post by Bombus on Jan 10, 2014 3:17:11 GMT
Guidetti
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 10, 2014 6:19:32 GMT
my thoughts exactly... here comes the proverbial Walters fanboy gang. Que the music. He's showed skill and the ability to play with crouch and get into the box and score with his weaker foot something we've been lacking we can make him permanent save on renegotiation in summer and open a loan spot but please tell us how he's a waste and not SJW or KJ... or JP
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 10, 2014 6:21:47 GMT
I'm punting a wedge on him being the first Stoke bloke to score a header this Prem season. A bit precipitous to sign the dude in my book, don't like the cut of his jib, his size, nor the shape of his head. I'm hoping the motivation for signing him is about his fitness for purpose and not just to free up a loan space. The ball is in his court to prove me wrong. In my opinion if we're intending to sell Crouch this window, Ireland has no place here. every player who has talent has a place here. And Ireland has talent. This is a football club not an athletics club. It's about playing football not just running
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 10, 2014 6:28:12 GMT
Surprised at any negativity about his signing.
Ireland has been one of the (on the whole) bright spots this season.
He's not played much football for a good while yet still contributed and without him or Charlie we'd be devoid of creativity.
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Post by karl on Jan 10, 2014 6:39:56 GMT
I thought he is only been signed till the end of the season. The club have taken over his contract from Villa. The club can look at it again in the summer and freed up a loan which is a good move?
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Post by boomboom on Jan 10, 2014 6:41:33 GMT
Good news if true. Hopefully he will continue to perform and raise his game to the benefit of the team. The dogs home is still barking.
Add a few players to improve our scoring options and we are a moving onwards and hopefully upwards.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 10, 2014 6:42:46 GMT
He didn't play at man city and have early success at villa without possessing great ability, he hasn't had a bad injury and isn't old like our other has-been signings ie gudjohnson, woodgate and Owen etc so there's no reason for him to not get back to his best. You say he didn't play at man city but ask any supporter and they'll tell you that his performances under Hughes were fantastic. He won player of the season for a reason. When mancini arrived, that all changed. Metalhead - I think you have misread adi's post.
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Post by mamasidibescfc on Jan 10, 2014 6:51:14 GMT
Has be been "impressive" for us or not? I can't make up my mind. At times he looks lively and inventive in a way no midfield player we have had on our books years has done, at other times I think he is lightweight and he seems injury prone. With the sort of wage he is likely to be on this one really needs to work out because I doubt this leaves anything left in the wages budget for any further midfield resource. thats why I think its a no brainer signing him, his career was dead until we signed him, his impressive spells are shadowed by a few little niggling injuries so we should beable to pick him up on cheap wages, with probably performance based bonuses (I think most stoke players contracts are like this)
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 10, 2014 7:06:37 GMT
Who's to say there might be something written in giving us first dibs when the contract runs out.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 10, 2014 7:34:01 GMT
You say he didn't play at man city but ask any supporter and they'll tell you that his performances under Hughes were fantastic. He won player of the season for a reason. When mancini arrived, that all changed. Metalhead - I think you have misread adi's post. You're right... that's what happens when you go on the oatcake at after midnight having had a few cheeky tinnies in front of the Tele.
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Post by Menorca Stokie on Jan 10, 2014 7:39:22 GMT
Pretty poor journalism if you ask me. Do thwy have a picture of him in his currency colour oe wven from his previous club, clearly not. The picture is of rwo clubs ago very poor Telegraph, very poor.
I see it as he will be a free agent in the summer. If borh parties are happy thwn I'm sure hell be offered a new contract if not I guess he'll move on else where but I can't seeanyone else ppaying him 55k a week. Great signing for us with no risk
Wwll done Hughsy.
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Post by henryscat on Jan 10, 2014 8:02:19 GMT
Waste of a wage, he does sod all. Has pissed away a promising career, more interested in cars and his lifestyle. What a stupid comment. Has shown signs of his old self and getting his career back on track. Great business to take him in on a free
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Post by crouchbot on Jan 10, 2014 8:03:59 GMT
Pretty poor journalism if you ask me. Do thwy have a picture of him in his currency colour oe wven from his previous club, clearly not. The picture is of rwo clubs ago very poor Telegraph, very poor. I see it as he will be a free agent in the summer. If borh parties are happy thwn I'm sure hell be offered a new contract if not I guess he'll move on else where but I can't seeanyone else ppaying him 55k a week. Great signing for us with no risk Wwll done Hughsy. Are you still drunk?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 10, 2014 8:10:59 GMT
If it is true that Ireland's new contract with us runs only to the end of the season then he has every incentive to play as well as he possibly can to earn a long term contract from July. That might be with us or it might be with another club but he should pull out all the stops until May. Good news, methinks.
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Jan 10, 2014 8:12:56 GMT
Maybe the best thing he's done for us is given Charlie Adam a kick up the arse.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 10, 2014 8:27:00 GMT
The Telegraph said a 3 1/2 year contract, but that can be nonsense of course!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 10, 2014 8:28:46 GMT
Ireland was always going to be a free agent in the summer and he is (and this is the important bit) STILL going to be a free agent in the summer.
It appears to me that the only reason we've taken over his contract until the summer is so that we can bring a new loan player in.
That's the major reason for taking him off Villa for a few months now and it has actually probably not got that much to do with how we view Ireland's long term future here.
If we were totally happy with him, then we'd have offered him a contract beyond the next 6 months you'd have thought, he's still of course got time to impress mind.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 10, 2014 10:02:28 GMT
my thoughts exactly... here comes the proverbial Walters fanboy gang. Que the music. He's showed skill and the ability to play with crouch and get into the box and score with his weaker foot something we've been lacking we can make him permanent save on renegotiation in summer and open a loan spot but please tell us how he's a waste and not SJW or KJ... I'm a big fan of Walters and Ireland. Is that allowed??
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Post by philb on Jan 10, 2014 10:10:46 GMT
Waste of a wage, he does sod all. Has pissed away a promising career, more interested in cars and his lifestyle. At least he knows where the goal is unlike most of our players. Think he just needs more game time over months not weeks. It's an awkward one though as he and Adam both seem to play well one week and then average/poor the next. Hopefully with him signing permanently he'll feel more settled and produce his best form for a while. Or it will go the other way and he'll become to comfortable and turn to Aston Villa mode! Let's hope for the former :-)
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Post by fca47 on Jan 10, 2014 10:18:05 GMT
Waste of a wage, he does sod all. Has pissed away a promising career, more interested in cars and his lifestyle. At least he knows where the goal is unlike most of our players. Think he just needs more game time over months not weeks. It's an awkward one though as he and Adam both seem to play well one week and then average/poor the next. Hopefully with him signing permanently he'll feel more settled and produce his best form for a while. Or it will go the other way and he'll become to comfortable and turn to Aston Villa mode! Let's hope for the former :-) What is more likely? 1. He will suddenly recapture his early promise or 2. He will carry on like he has done for the last 4 or 5 years and have no impact on the games, as he is not willing to work hard or to actually tackle anyone.
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