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Post by RichardTMP on Jan 7, 2014 20:47:42 GMT
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Post by meatandpotatopie on Jan 7, 2014 21:04:10 GMT
Most surprising thing at first glance is Fulham in 9th!
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Post by DansViews on Jan 7, 2014 21:05:00 GMT
Derby county - Won 4  |
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Post by jonah77 on Jan 7, 2014 21:09:53 GMT
We will be one place higher after sunday.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jan 7, 2014 21:14:34 GMT
Can't be correct were only 11 points behind West Brom with 38 games in hand and they are ace!  |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 7, 2014 21:18:26 GMT
Pity there isn't a "points per game" column on that table.
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Post by jonah77 on Jan 7, 2014 21:19:33 GMT
Pity there isn't a "points per game" column on that table. I was just thinking that.I'm sure some technical whizz could find/create one. |
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Post by RichardTMP on Jan 7, 2014 21:21:48 GMT
Well its just over one point a game isn't it?  |
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Post by bogus on Jan 7, 2014 21:22:14 GMT
Derby county - Won 4 WON ONE |
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Post by ST5-POTTER on Jan 7, 2014 21:25:03 GMT
Portsmouth....
Look at them now
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Post by adi on Jan 7, 2014 21:29:44 GMT
Won 16 away.... In 10 years.... Dogshit
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Post by stokerstayinup on Jan 7, 2014 21:36:26 GMT
Win our games in hand and we'll be third.  |
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Post by lordb on Jan 7, 2014 21:38:00 GMT
Won 16 away.... In 10 years.... Dogshit 5 full seasons & this one |
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jan 7, 2014 21:56:14 GMT
Pity there isn't a "points per game" column on that table. I was just thinking that.I'm sure some technical whizz could find/create one. P W D L F A W D L F A GD Pt PPG 1 Manchester United 362 142 22 17 414 124 104 43 34 319 174 435 803 2.22 2 Chelsea 362 131 39 11 399 126 102 38 41 292 154 411 776 2.14 3 Arsenal 362 120 41 20 398 151 86 45 50 302 207 342 704 1.94 4 Liverpool 362 114 46 21 350 123 71 42 68 244 210 261 643 1.78 5 Manchester City 362 113 30 38 337 153 58 48 75 234 245 173 591 1.63 6 Tottenham Hotspur 362 102 45 34 317 183 61 50 70 229 255 108 584 1.61 7 Everton 362 98 45 38 290 176 55 65 61 199 218 95 569 1.57 8 Aston Villa 362 65 61 55 232 196 53 60 68 226 296 -34 475 1.31 9 Newcastle United 324 69 48 45 236 200 38 38 86 167 271 -68 407 1.26 10 Blackburn Rovers 304 64 42 46 207 173 36 38 78 153 266 -79 380 1.25 11 Bolton Wanderers 304 63 40 49 207 184 36 32 84 155 260 -82 369 1.21 12 Swansea City 96 16 19 13 73 61 12 11 25 44 69 -13 114 1.19 13 Fulham 362 83 40 58 262 224 27 59 95 160 290 -92 429 1.19 14 Stoke City 210 45 35 25 134 103 16 29 60 73 176 -72 247 1.18 15 Middlesbrough 190 38 28 29 132 116 17 27 51 84 147 -47 220 1.16 16 West Ham United 286 56 33 54 201 195 29 37 77 124 233 -103 325 1.14 17 Charlton Athletic 114 23 13 21 70 70 10 15 32 47 103 -56 127 1.11 18 Wigan Athletic 304 48 45 59 169 215 37 31 84 147 267 -166 331 1.09 19 Portsmouth 228 44 30 40 149 140 23 26 65 96 186 -81 248 1.09 20 Norwich City 134 25 21 21 92 93 9 21 37 60 141 -82 144 1.07 21 Birmingham City 190 34 36 25 111 93 14 23 58 78 170 -74 203 1.07 22 West Bromwich Albion 248 44 29 51 159 170 20 39 65 121 223 -113 260 1.05 23 Reading 114 23 12 22 71 78 9 11 37 65 108 -50 119 1.04 24 Southampton 96 15 19 14 72 66 7 15 26 48 83 -29 100 1.04 25 Blackpool 38 5 5 9 30 37 5 4 10 25 41 -23 39 1.03 26 Sheffield United 38 7 6 6 24 21 3 2 14 8 34 -23 38 1.00 27 Sunderland 286 46 38 59 169 182 23 34 86 121 245 -137 279 0.98 28 Hull City 96 14 14 20 55 71 6 14 28 40 93 -69 88 0.92 29 Wolverhampton Wndrs 114 16 13 28 62 95 9 15 33 56 109 -86 103 0.90 30 Cardiff City 20 3 3 4 10 15 1 3 6 5 17 -17 18 0.90 31 Crystal Palace 58 9 7 13 29 33 3 7 19 25 58 -37 50 0.86 32 Queens Park Rangers 76 9 13 16 37 53 5 7 26 36 73 -53 62 0.82 33 Burnley 38 7 5 7 25 30 1 1 17 17 52 -40 30 0.79 34 Watford 38 3 9 7 19 25 2 4 13 10 34 -30 28 0.74 35 Derby County 38 1 5 13 12 43 0 3 16 8 46 -69 11 0.29 |
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jan 7, 2014 21:58:14 GMT
Sorry it's hard to read, can't seem to put it into cells from excel, if any one can tell me how to do that.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jan 7, 2014 22:05:59 GMT
I think the 5 year table is better as you can compare us on same number of matches
THIS IS POINTS
P W D L F A W D L F A GD Pt PPG
1 Manchester United 172 69 6 11 210 72 47 23 16 162 93 207 377 2.19
2 Manchester City 172 67 12 7 209 65 37 25 24 140 99 185 349 2.03
3 Chelsea 172 64 13 9 211 75 37 23 26 139 94 181 339 1.97
4 Arsenal 172 56 17 13 185 76 42 20 24 155 112 152 331 1.92
5 Tottenham Hotspur 172 51 22 13 149 79 38 21 27 129 120 79 310 1.80
6 Liverpool 172 49 22 15 164 67 28 20 38 120 118 99 273 1.59
7 Everton 172 48 25 13 146 85 22 37 27 102 108 55 272 1.58
8 Aston Villa 172 27 29 30 105 102 25 29 32 98 143 -42 214 1.24
9 Fulham 172 39 19 28 134 112 15 28 43 73 130 -35 209 1.22
10 Stoke City 172 35 30 21 112 88 14 25 47 57 136 -55 202 1.17
11 Sunderland 172 30 28 28 113 99 16 23 47 81 146 -51 189 1.10
12 Newcastle United 134 31 17 19 111 85 20 15 32 75 116 -15 185 1.38
13 West Bromwich Albion 134 26 16 25 95 89 17 19 31 82 118 -30 164 1.22
14 Wigan Athletic 152 20 28 28 89 124 18 15 43 77 151 -109 157 1.03
15 West Ham United 134 23 19 25 100 98 7 20 40 54 121 -65 129 0.96
16 Blackburn Rovers 114 23 14 20 76 67 9 14 34 59 125 -57 124 1.09
17 Bolton Wanderers 114 20 15 22 83 94 12 10 35 57 106 -60 121 1.06
18 Swansea City 96 16 19 13 73 61 12 11 25 44 69 -13 114 1.19
19 Norwich City 96 18 16 14 63 61 9 14 25 47 96 -47 111 1.16
20 Wolverhampton Wndrs 114 16 13 28 62 95 9 15 33 56 109 -86 103 0.90
21 Birmingham City 76 14 17 7 38 35 7 9 22 37 70 -30 89 1.17
22 Southampton 58 10 10 9 42 36 6 10 13 33 47 -8 68 1.17
23 Queens Park Rangers 76 9 13 16 37 53 5 7 26 36 73 -53 62 0.82
24 Hull City 58 11 9 9 37 35 1 8 20 19 65 -44 53 0.91
25 Blackpool 38 5 5 9 30 37 5 4 10 25 41 -23 39 1.03
26 Burnley 38 7 5 7 25 30 1 1 17 17 52 -40 30 0.79
27 Reading 38 4 8 7 23 33 2 2 15 20 40 -30 28 0.74
28 Portsmouth 38 5 3 11 24 32 2 4 13 10 34 -32 19 0.50
29 Cardiff City 20 3 3 4 10 15 1 3 6 5 17 -17 18 0.90
30 Crystal Palace 20 3 2 5 8 14 2 0 8 5 15 -16 17 0.85
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jan 7, 2014 22:11:42 GMT
PONITS PER GAME STILL 10th but some clubs have games in hand
1 Manchester United 172 69 6 11 210 72 47 23 16 162 93 207 377 2.19
2 Manchester City 172 67 12 7 209 65 37 25 24 140 99 185 349 2.03
3 Chelsea 172 64 13 9 211 75 37 23 26 139 94 181 339 1.97
4 Arsenal 172 56 17 13 185 76 42 20 24 155 112 152 331 1.92
5 Tottenham Hotspur 172 51 22 13 149 79 38 21 27 129 120 79 310 1.80
6 Liverpool 172 49 22 15 164 67 28 20 38 120 118 99 273 1.59
7 Everton 172 48 25 13 146 85 22 37 27 102 108 55 272 1.58
8 Newcastle United 134 31 17 19 111 85 20 15 32 75 116 -15 185 1.38
9 Aston Villa 172 27 29 30 105 102 25 29 32 98 143 -42 214 1.24
10 West Bromwich Albion 134 26 16 25 95 89 17 19 31 82 118 -30 164 1.22
11 Fulham 172 39 19 28 134 112 15 28 43 73 130 -35 209 1.22
12 Swansea City 96 16 19 13 73 61 12 11 25 44 69 -13 114 1.19
13 Stoke City 172 35 30 21 112 88 14 25 47 57 136 -55 202 1.17
14 Southampton 58 10 10 9 42 36 6 10 13 33 47 -8 68 1.17
15 Birmingham City 76 14 17 7 38 35 7 9 22 37 70 -30 89 1.17
16 Norwich City 96 18 16 14 63 61 9 14 25 47 96 -47 111 1.16
17 Sunderland 172 30 28 28 113 99 16 23 47 81 146 -51 189 1.10
18 Blackburn Rovers 114 23 14 20 76 67 9 14 34 59 125 -57 124 1.09
19 Bolton Wanderers 114 20 15 22 83 94 12 10 35 57 106 -60 121 1.06
20 Wigan Athletic 152 20 28 28 89 124 18 15 43 77 151 -109 157 1.03
21 Blackpool 38 5 5 9 30 37 5 4 10 25 41 -23 39 1.03
22 West Ham United 134 23 19 25 100 98 7 20 40 54 121 -65 129 0.96
23 Hull City 58 11 9 9 37 35 1 8 20 19 65 -44 53 0.91
24 Wolverhampton Wndrs 114 16 13 28 62 95 9 15 33 56 109 -86 103 0.90
25 Cardiff City 20 3 3 4 10 15 1 3 6 5 17 -17 18 0.90
26 Crystal Palace 20 3 2 5 8 14 2 0 8 5 15 -16 17 0.85
27 Queens Park Rangers 76 9 13 16 37 53 5 7 26 36 73 -53 62 0.82
28 Burnley 38 7 5 7 25 30 1 1 17 17 52 -40 30 0.79
29 Reading 38 4 8 7 23 33 2 2 15 20 40 -30 28 0.74
30 Portsmouth 38 5 3 11 24 32 2 4 13 10 34 -32 19 0.50
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 7, 2014 22:13:25 GMT
Completely pointless way of comparing teams success in PL. Points per game is the fairest and most meaningful way. Fulham are 9th only because they have played in PL for 10 years. If you look at their average points per game it is only marginally better than us at 1.18 compared to our 1.17. Yet we are 18th.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 7, 2014 22:13:48 GMT
Won 16 away.... In 10 years.... Dogshit Maths not your strong point, I presume!  |
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Post by stokiesteve on Jan 7, 2014 23:18:21 GMT
We're 18th FFS
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Post by adi on Jan 7, 2014 23:24:56 GMT
Won 16 away.... In 10 years.... Dogshit Maths not your strong point, I presume! You'll have to expand I'm afraid, I looked in the Away column and saw 16 won. Where am I going wrong? Obviously that's 5 seasons, but still 10 years, where's the maths error? |
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Post by Robo10 on Jan 7, 2014 23:31:18 GMT
Eerrrm because the other 5 years saw lots (well some ) away wins in the Champ and Lg1 that aren't in this table? This is Prem games only. |
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Post by adi on Jan 7, 2014 23:34:04 GMT
Eerrrm because the other 5 years saw lots (well some ) away wins in the Champ and Lg1 that aren't in this table? This is Prem games only. Yea I get that, hence Prem table, but 16 wins is over the prem in the last 10 years and it's still shite. My maths was fine. I don't get Lakelands misplaced jibe. |
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Post by Robo10 on Jan 7, 2014 23:41:38 GMT
Because it's over 5 years not 10 for us?
It's still shit (16 from around 100 games), but it's still not 10 years?
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Post by Robo10 on Jan 7, 2014 23:43:52 GMT
On the same logic you could say we have only had 16 away wins since 1985 (or 28 years) - mind you it would still be 16 if you went back to 1984 from memory as we didn't win 1 in the drop season
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Jan 7, 2014 23:50:24 GMT
Excuse me if i'm being extremely stupid here but according to that original table we have won AND drawn more games than Portsmouth, but are still below them somehow...
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Post by Robo10 on Jan 7, 2014 23:53:28 GMT
Home games and away seperated Joe - they have won more away
Was confused myself at first!
Is games played, then home record WDL, then away record WDL
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Post by adi on Jan 7, 2014 23:54:36 GMT
Because it's over 5 years not 10 for us? It's still shit (16 from around 100 games), but it's still not 10 years? Well it is, we just weren't there for the entire 10 years. It's still over 10 years. I get what you mean though, but maths wise, it is what it is, 16 prem wins in 10 years, that was my point. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 8, 2014 0:55:47 GMT
Derby have played more than one season in the Premier League!
Or am I being fucking dumb?
Edit - obviously being fucking dumb. Last 10 years only! Surprised how long they've been in the wilderness.
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Post by Gods on Jan 8, 2014 0:58:20 GMT
Derby have played more than one season in the Premier League! Or am I being fucking dumb? Yes, but if you are looking at the OP then that is a 10 year table, only 1 season in the last 10 years. Whisper it quietly but the 5 year table reflects rather well on a certain Mr Pulis, so long as (like me) you didn't mind too much about the aesthetics of it all  |
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