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Post by burge2u on Jan 4, 2014 19:15:55 GMT
I'm struggling to understand the logic of trying to bring on Matty Etherington as a sub in the 90th minute against Leicester.
I can understand bringing on a late sub to 'wind down the clock' but Matty has not featured for several weeks and it was a cup tie.
If it is the club's intention to sell him, then surely he would have been devalued by playing him for just one minute and rendering him 'cup tied'?
In these circumstances surely it would have been preferable to use Muniesa as a last minute sub.
If it is Stoke's intention to retain Matty, then why hasn't he featured before now?
In the event, it turned out that the substitution wasn't made eventhough Matty was stripped off and ready to play.
For the purpose of clarity, I wish to point out that I have a high regard for Etherington and what he has done for Stoke, but I regard Assaidi as a better prospect right now,
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 4, 2014 19:19:34 GMT
Whoever wants him wouldn't give a shit if he's cup tied. We'd be lucky to get more than 250k for him anyway, so I don't think it really matters. He was doing it to waste time imo.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 4, 2014 19:22:43 GMT
He'd struggle to shine in League One now, without trying to sound like a twat.
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Post by lordb on Jan 4, 2014 19:23:17 GMT
The logic is that he gets paid for coming on.
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Post by lordb on Jan 4, 2014 19:24:18 GMT
He'd struggle to shine in League One now, without trying to sound like a twat. nonsense he'd be a star in that league & I think would be good in midfield in The Championship too. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 4, 2014 19:34:37 GMT
I'm struggling to understand the logic of trying to bring on Matty Etherington as a sub in the 90th minute against Leicester. I can understand bringing on a late sub to 'wind down the clock' but Matty has not featured for several weeks and it was a cup tie. If it is the club's intention to sell him, then surely he would have been devalued by playing him for just one minute and rendering him 'cup tied'? In these circumstances surely it would have been preferable to use Muniesa as a last minute sub. If it is Stoke's intention to retain Matty, then why hasn't he featured before now? In the event, it turned out that the substitution wasn't made eventhough Matty was stripped off and ready to play. For the purpose of clarity, I wish to point out that I have a high regard for Etherington and what he has done for Stoke, but I regard Assaidi as a better prospect right now, Fella I know was talking to one of the parking attendants on the official car park who had just parked Matty's dad today. He said Matty's dad had thanked him for all the help over the years and said this was his last game. Now either Ethers senior can't be arsed watching us again or Matty's moving clubs. I wonder which? |
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Post by Northy on Jan 4, 2014 19:41:44 GMT
Did he get on, I saw him ready but then he sat down again
Sent from my LT30p using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:47:00 GMT
Did he get on, I saw him ready but then he sat down again Sent from my LT30p using proboards That's was my view too. Checked on the BBC and Sky, both say he never came on. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 4, 2014 19:48:10 GMT
I'm struggling to understand the logic of trying to bring on Matty Etherington as a sub in the 90th minute against Leicester. I can understand bringing on a late sub to 'wind down the clock' but Matty has not featured for several weeks and it was a cup tie. If it is the club's intention to sell him, then surely he would have been devalued by playing him for just one minute and rendering him 'cup tied'? In these circumstances surely it would have been preferable to use Muniesa as a last minute sub. If it is Stoke's intention to retain Matty, then why hasn't he featured before now? In the event, it turned out that the substitution wasn't made eventhough Matty was stripped off and ready to play. For the purpose of clarity, I wish to point out that I have a high regard for Etherington and what he has done for Stoke, but I regard Assaidi as a better prospect right now, Fella I know was talking to one of the parking attendants on the official car park who had just parked Matty's dad today. He said Matty's dad had thanked him for all the help over the years and said this was his last game. Now either Ethers senior can't be arsed watching us again or Matty's moving clubs. I wonder which? Hope you're right! Matty has been a great servant, but his contribution for us now is simply not enough! Wish him all the best somewhere else though! |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 4, 2014 19:49:55 GMT
Fella I know was talking to one of the parking attendants on the official car park who had just parked Matty's dad today. He said Matty's dad had thanked him for all the help over the years and said this was his last game. Now either Ethers senior can't be arsed watching us again or Matty's moving clubs. I wonder which? Hope you're right! Matty has been a great servant, but his contribution for us now is simply not enough! Wish him all the best somewhere else though! I assumed from his old mans reported comments he won't be here for the bindippers game. |
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Post by burge2u on Jan 4, 2014 19:54:28 GMT
Did he get on, I saw him ready but then he sat down again Sent from my LT30p using proboards That's was my view too. Checked on the BBC and Sky, both say he never came on. Something happened on the pitch in the last minute which mean't that Etherington didn't actually come on as a sub, albeit he was stripped off and ready. My original point was to question the logic of intending to use him and cup tie him. Based upon previous responses, perhaps it was intended to be his 'swansong' |
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Post by cdlstoke on Jan 4, 2014 19:54:50 GMT
Yes Matty been good signing but should have gone in the summer. Think he'll go for next to nothing just to get him off the wage bill. Lost his pace so not sure what level he'll drop to??
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 4, 2014 20:07:15 GMT
Hope you're right! Matty has been a great servant, but his contribution for us now is simply not enough! Wish him all the best somewhere else though! I assumed from his old mans reported comments he won't be here for the bindippers game. Hope we can get close to £1M for him, but maybe that's expecting too much? |
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Post by torijames01 on Jan 4, 2014 20:35:14 GMT
Free transfer I'm afraid
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Post by NottsMatt on Jan 4, 2014 20:48:20 GMT
Probaly to save the 'un-used sub bonus' in his wage packet.
Matty's had his time but isnt up to the Prem now, free transfer to the Champ or below
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 4, 2014 20:52:29 GMT
Matty's the michael owen of this season with edu right behind him, out the door... With KJ's cup performances he'll get a nicer fee to a championship club now.  |
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 4, 2014 20:54:07 GMT
I assumed from his old mans reported comments he won't be here for the bindippers game. Hope we can get close to £1M for him, but maybe that's expecting too much? We'd be lucky to get 250K in all honesty with his wages so high even if he takes a huge cut his injury risk and age durastically decrease his fee. We will take a loss on him he should of gone last summer with the rest of the old guard ie delap, whitehead, nash etc... |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 4, 2014 20:58:03 GMT
Hope we can get close to £1M for him, but maybe that's expecting too much? We'd be lucky to get 250K in all honesty with his wages so high even if he takes a huge cut his injury risk and age durastically decrease his fee. We will take a loss on him he should of gone last summer with the rest of the old guard ie delap, whitehead, nash etc... I'm afraid yoy'll might be right, but I still hope for a bit more!  |
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Jan 4, 2014 21:05:13 GMT
With what he's done for this club I'd be happy for him to scoot up and down the warmup area on a mobility scooter all afternoon as long as he can be bothered.
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Post by rorymscfc on Jan 4, 2014 21:09:38 GMT
Give him a free transfer as a thank you for all that he's done for us.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 4, 2014 21:24:33 GMT
I'm struggling to understand the logic of trying to bring on Matty Etherington as a sub in the 90th minute against Leicester. I can understand bringing on a late sub to 'wind down the clock' but Matty has not featured for several weeks and it was a cup tie. If it is the club's intention to sell him, then surely he would have been devalued by playing him for just one minute and rendering him 'cup tied'? In these circumstances surely it would have been preferable to use Muniesa as a last minute sub. If it is Stoke's intention to retain Matty, then why hasn't he featured before now? In the event, it turned out that the substitution wasn't made eventhough Matty was stripped off and ready to play. For the purpose of clarity, I wish to point out that I have a high regard for Etherington and what he has done for Stoke, but I regard Assaidi as a better prospect right now, Fella I know was talking to one of the parking attendants on the official car park who had just parked Matty's dad today. He said Matty's dad had thanked him for all the help over the years and said this was his last game. Now either Ethers senior can't be arsed watching us again or Matty's moving clubs. I wonder which? Interesting. Pulis reunion? Mind you, hard to see him really adding to them. He'd still be an asset in the C'ship though |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 4, 2014 21:26:51 GMT
Fella I know was talking to one of the parking attendants on the official car park who had just parked Matty's dad today. He said Matty's dad had thanked him for all the help over the years and said this was his last game. Now either Ethers senior can't be arsed watching us again or Matty's moving clubs. I wonder which? Interesting. Pulis reunion? Mind you, hard to see him really adding to them. He'd still be an asset in the C'ship though When I was told I immediately assumed Palace but that was just me, no inkling from the info. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 21:30:00 GMT
Been great for us but now needs getting off the payroll unfortunately.
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Post by padders01 on Jan 4, 2014 21:36:37 GMT
I really don't think players getting cup tied is a problem like it was in the 80's and 90', certainly not in the FA Cup. European competitions possibly.
You only need to see all the players rested from PL sides today tells you whats more important.
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 4, 2014 22:51:27 GMT
Whelan was asking to come off for several minutes, it took Etherington an age to get ready and when he was the ball never went out.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 4, 2014 23:09:20 GMT
Whelan was asking to come off for several minutes, it took Etherington an age to get ready and when he was the ball never went out. Yeah I saw Whelan gesturing to the bench but I thought he was indicating Adam who was blowing out of his arse in the last five minutes. |
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