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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 30, 2013 18:24:23 GMT
After our defeat at Everton, Hughes mentioned the fact that we struggled to cope with their pace and power.
He mentioned similar after yesterdays game and how we struggled to get close enough to them because of their pace and power.
Hopefully it is a sign of what any new signings will bring to us and a sign that long term, his sides, albeit on a lower budget, will be built with those attributes in mind.
Fingers crossed we can find the players he wants and needs.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2013 18:33:13 GMT
It was clear with the Diouf link and the seeming insistence that he wants him and no one else that this is the plan. He has pace, he has power, he can finish with his feet and head, he's exactly what we need.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 30, 2013 18:35:58 GMT
Struggling to cope with a teams pace and power doesn't automatically make me think he's talking about the striker we desperately need, it sounds like he's disappointed in several other positions.
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Post by iglugluk on Dec 30, 2013 18:39:47 GMT
Struggling to cope with a teams pace and power doesn't automatically make me think he's talking about the striker we desperately need, it sounds like he's disappointed in several other positions. The inability to get in behind teams given our existing squad options, as he said yesterday, does, however, implicitly state that a striker is still well and truly high up on the agenda. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 30, 2013 18:43:13 GMT
Struggling to cope with a teams pace and power doesn't automatically make me think he's talking about the striker we desperately need, it sounds like he's disappointed in several other positions. The inability to get in behind teams given our existing squad options, as he said yesterday, does, however, implicitly state that a striker is still well and truly high up on the agenda. I'm sure it is but struggling to cope with a teams pace and power suggest he's probably talking about the fat wheezy Honduran (and others)in this instance. The system really was shocking yesterday. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 30, 2013 18:45:08 GMT
Struggling to cope with a teams pace and power doesn't automatically make me think he's talking about the striker we desperately need, it sounds like he's disappointed in several other positions. If he is, he's right to be. Throughout our team we have several players who were they commodities other than footballers, would most likely be in trouble under trade description laws. I have just listed a load of players who would fit that category but figured it would be easier to delete it say he was probably pleased to inherit Begovic, Tommy, Shawcross, Huth, Cameron and N'zonzi. Outside of those I think he'd replace any one of the others in a heartbeat given half a chance or the budget of his predecessor! |
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Post by iglugluk on Dec 30, 2013 18:47:07 GMT
The inability to get in behind teams given our existing squad options, as he said yesterday, does, however, implicitly state that a striker is still well and truly high up on the agenda. I'm sure it is but struggling to cope with a teams pace and power suggest he's probably talking about the fat wheezy Honduran (and others)in this instance. The system really was shocking yesterday. Yes you are quite right....it certainly seems that he was stating the need for improvement in all areas, one way or another. Hopefully he doesn't think we need too many players, though, as that could lead to problems with bedding in a team of strangers..........certainly not something that I would relish for us in the 2nd half of the season. |
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Dec 30, 2013 19:18:48 GMT
It was clear with the Diouf link and the seeming insistence that he wants him and no one else that this is the plan. He has pace, he has power, he can finish with his feet and head, he's exactly what we need. 100% correct. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 19:34:53 GMT
100% not happening!
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 30, 2013 19:44:36 GMT
we need both , sadly im not sure that Mr Cartwright would know it if it ran into him and knocked him out , also the purse strings seem tight still, we will see
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Post by werrington on Dec 30, 2013 19:53:39 GMT
we need both , sadly im not sure that Mr Cartwright would know it if it ran into him and knocked him out , also the purse strings seem tight still, we will see It's nothing to do with Cartwright The purse strings are tight for strikers because we have Crouch and Jones already and on big money They need to be shifted to free up the wages for two new forwards |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 19:55:34 GMT
Midfield.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2013 19:55:42 GMT
we need both , sadly im not sure that Mr Cartwright would know it if it ran into him and knocked him out , also the purse strings seem tight still, we will see It's nothing to do with Cartwright The purse strings are tight for strikers because we have Crouch and Jones already and on big money They need to be shifted to free up the wages for two new forwards I can't make out if people find this surprising. Or think that Coates is being tight? Or it's just me looking at this sort of comment and thinking that they're either surprised or angry!? Because if they are and it's not me, they need to wake up. |
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Post by werrington on Dec 30, 2013 19:58:31 GMT
It's nothing to do with Cartwright The purse strings are tight for strikers because we have Crouch and Jones already and on big money They need to be shifted to free up the wages for two new forwards I can't make out if people find this surprising. Or think that Coates is being tight? Or it's just me looking at this sort of comment and thinking that they're either surprised or angry!? Because if they are and it's not me, they need to wake up. I'm convinced some fans think it's a bottomless pit mate and money can just be kept being thrown at it Financial suicide |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 21:41:40 GMT
Struggling to cope with a teams pace and power doesn't automatically make me think he's talking about the striker we desperately need, it sounds like he's disappointed in several other positions. If he is, he's right to be. Throughout our team we have several players who were they commodities other than footballers, would most likely be in trouble under trade description laws. I have just listed a load of players who would fit that category but figured it would be easier to delete it say he was probably pleased to inherit Begovic, Tommy, Shawcross, Huth, Cameron and N'zonzi. Outside of those I think he'd replace any one of the others in a heartbeat given half a chance or the budget of his predecessor! nzonzi? whenever we have come up against pace and power he has been brutally exposed, along with our other defensive midfielders. look at what dembele did to him yesterday. yes, he should not be left one-on-one there and the other defensive midfielder should be there to help out with blocking dembele out, but it was all too easy for dembele to utterly rinse him. time and time again though in games against pace and power or just a team that is 'at it' from the start nzonzi is left out of the game, out of position, and he usually loses his temper like a spoilt child. any manager worth his salt will tell his midfield to pile into nzonzi and whoever else is the anchor of midfield and push very high up the pitch because there is no-one in our midfield with the stomach for that type of battle and no-one who can take on a ball over the top of their defence to stretch the game. Martinez will be telling his team to bully us and push our midfield right back to the edge of our own box and to be honest, who in our team can do a thing about that? we've got no quality at all we need to inject pace and power through the centre of midfield and up front. it is embarrassing at times how slow we are |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 30, 2013 22:03:19 GMT
N'zonzi isn't slow and regardless of his attitude or temperament, I'm pretty sure Hughes would have been pleased to inherit him and would have felt he could do something with him.
N'zonzi gets overrun and loses his temper when he has to do other peoples jobs and that has tended to happen when he has been partnered by anyone other than Whelan.
N'zonzi, to me at least, wants to do his own job and his own job only and he is seemingly less willing or less able to compensate for deficiences in his teammates.
He remains one of our better players regardless of his temperament.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 22:04:18 GMT
I am hoping that tactics also change when and if he brings in a striker .. Crouch had pretty much been on his lonesome this season, Hughes is certainly not a 4-4-2 man so in theory the new striker will be on the trail of the lonesome pine... I think that we struggle to get the midfield to support the striker which generally means loss of pissesion and then pressure on the defense. Bossing the midfield is an aspect of our game that is certainly in need of attention if we are to sustain prem status.
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