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Post by The battheader chronicles on Dec 15, 2013 22:34:32 GMT
Being as we're coming to Christmas which is meant to be celebration of Jesus's birthday, who on here is of a faith persuasion? Just interested
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 22:58:28 GMT
Being as we're coming to celebrate what has been branded as 'Christmas' which celebrates the sun rising earlier in the morning (having believed that the sun god had died), who on here is of a faith persuasion? Just interested Just a slight correction if you don't mind  I'm not of faith by the way |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 15, 2013 23:02:09 GMT
Being as we're coming to celebrate what has been branded as 'Christmas' which celebrates the sun rising earlier in the morning (having believed that the sun god had died), who on here is of a faith persuasion? Just interested Just a slight correction if you don't mind I'm not of faith by the way You hide it so well. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 23:07:23 GMT
Just a slight correction if you don't mind I'm not of faith by the way You hide it so well. Well its around this time that I get told by a select few individuals that I shouldn't celebrate Christmas and they have the same incorrect assumption as the OP. Wouldn't want others falling in to that trap |
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Post by santy on Dec 15, 2013 23:10:15 GMT
Gay used to mean happy, the definition of words change with time. Our society has imposed another definition on Christmas now that is widely accepted.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 23:17:30 GMT
Gay used to mean happy, the definition of words change with time. Our society has imposed another definition on Christmas now that is widely accepted. and still does santy |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 23:28:07 GMT
I suppose when our Council changes the name of events at this time of year to "Winter Holiday" or something like that - to avoid upsetting the Muslims, people on here jump on this one. What's wrong with us celebrating Christmas they say?
Someone here is asking a straight question.
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Post by santy on Dec 15, 2013 23:32:37 GMT
Except it doesn't, there is little scope for context where you can use it in a statement and the logical conclusion is you're meaning happy/joyful etc. The Oxford dictionary - which is generally the standard carries it as a 'dated' meaning. Much in the same way that words like Thane, thou, thy, thine and a whole host of other circa 16-17th century words have meanings but they're dated and largely no longer functional in our society.
When it comes to Christmas in the Oxford dictionary, your definition isn't even carried as 'dated'. They are a higher authority when it comes to the definition of words sadly.
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Post by craig67 on Dec 16, 2013 0:58:37 GMT
Fraise and Julian are 'of a persuasion.'
Does that count?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 7:37:11 GMT
Except it doesn't, there is little scope for context where you can use it in a statement and the logical conclusion is you're meaning happy/joyful etc. The Oxford dictionary - which is generally the standard carries it as a 'dated' meaning. Much in the same way that words like Thane, thou, thy, thine and a whole host of other circa 16-17th century words have meanings but they're dated and largely no longer functional in our society. When it comes to Christmas in the Oxford dictionary, your definition isn't even carried as 'dated'. They are a higher authority when it comes to the definition of words sadly. My 'definition' of Cristmas (as it has been branded) is no such definition at all...its historical fact related to pre-christian celebrations which are now included as part of many religions festivities and to correct a common misconception that Christmas is to celebrate Jesus' birthday (whilst we're on that - who wasn't even born at that time too). That's a bit different to the word gay now also being used as a common vernacular for homosexual. Dated whilst its definition of happy is, just means that it is not commonly used in such a manner anymore. Don't get me wrong, I love this time of year and I love Christmas...its certainly a gay old time of year, but I certainly aren't celebrating it because of Jesus' birthday and Christianity (most branches of it anyway) certainly doesn't have a monopoly on it. To that extent, whilst the dictionary might tell you some definition of words, its not exactly a reliable source of history. Love Christmas but not religious |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 7:43:03 GMT
I suppose when our Council changes the name of events at this time of year to "Winter Holiday" or something like that - to avoid upsetting the Muslims, people on here jump on this one. What's wrong with us celebrating Christmas they say? Someone here is asking a straight question. When Birmingham tried to promote Winterval, it wasn't to avoid upsetting Muslims, it was to celebrate the whole range of winter solstice festivities under its various guises to allow for a fully unified celebration regardless of religion. The concept of that itself is fantastic in order of wanting everybody to celebrate together. But, it was jumped on and twisted around to make it a negative |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 8:15:31 GMT
I believe
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 16, 2013 8:22:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 8:48:58 GMT
Don't mock....Everyone has two fairies watching over them richard |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 16, 2013 8:59:23 GMT
Don't mock....Everyone has two fairies watching over them richard In your case, I thought it was one at each end |
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Dec 16, 2013 10:01:26 GMT
Satanic Atheist.
All religion is a load of old horsepoo based on superstitions from the dark ages.
There is more truth in 'The Very Hungry Caterpillar' than the bible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 10:08:21 GMT
Satanic Atheist. All religion is a load of old horsepoo based on superstitions from the dark ages. There is more truth in 'The Very Hungry Caterpillar' than the bible. That caterpillar was indeed a very hungry one |
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 17, 2013 15:20:41 GMT
Satanic Atheist. All religion is a load of old horsepoo based on superstitions from the dark ages. There is more truth in 'The Very Hungry Caterpillar' than the bible. Its Christmas……END OF. The 'Satanic Atheist' - pisser  …..next time you get a knock on the door yorkshire, by a load of happy clappers, go to the door with a joint in one hand, carving knife dripping in blood in the other, with Black Sabbath belting out full blast in the background. Slowly open the door, and shout over your shoulder to the other half, "oi love you can untie the goat for now, we've got some more disciples "  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 17, 2013 15:26:23 GMT
I think all religion is of equal amount of bollocks. But if people choose to believe then good to luck to them, each to their own and all that. As long as it doesn't affect me in any shape of form, I aren't bothered.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 17, 2013 16:28:58 GMT
If you ask me Jesus was just unlucky having his birthday on 25th December. Any other day but not Christmas Day ffs that's a real bummer.
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Dec 18, 2013 9:34:43 GMT
Satanic Atheist. All religion is a load of old horsepoo based on superstitions from the dark ages. There is more truth in 'The Very Hungry Caterpillar' than the bible. Its Christmas……END OF. The 'Satanic Atheist' - pisser …..next time you get a knock on the door yorkshire, by a load of happy clappers, go to the door with a joint in one hand, carving knife dripping in blood in the other, with Black Sabbath belting out full blast in the background. Slowly open the door, and shout over your shoulder to the other half, "oi love you can untie the goat for now, we've got some more disciples " Nah, ive got a copy of the Satanic bible. I find trying to read that to them is enough to send them running for the holy water and crucifix  |
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…..next time you get a knock on the door yorkshire, by a load of happy clappers, go to the door with a joint in one hand, carving knife dripping in blood in the other, with Black Sabbath belting out full blast in the background.
