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Post by lordb on Dec 2, 2013 13:10:04 GMT
I still can't see any reason why we can end up above Sland, Palace, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Hull and maybe West Ham too. We need to win the remaining home games against these teams though, and even avoid defeats away in most of the games against these teams. A striker, a winger and a central defender is needed in the window though (Long, McCormack + ?)! I hope we go for Anthony Annan too to shore up our midfield! I agree,no reason we can't finish above those clubs. However I can't see any reason what we can't finish below those clubs either. I want to see something on Wednesday night that tells me we will fine come May.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 13:49:26 GMT
I still can't see any reason why we can end up above Sland, Palace, Fulham, Norwich, Cardiff, Hull and maybe West Ham too. We need to win the remaining home games against these teams though, and even avoid defeats away in most of the games against these teams. A striker, a winger and a central defender is needed in the window though (Long, McCormack + ?)! I hope we go for Anthony Annan too to shore up our midfield! I agree,no reason we can't finish above those clubs. However I can't see any reason what we can't finish below those clubs either. I want to see something on Wednesday night that tells me we will fine come May. I'm pretty confident we'll see a positive reaction Wednesday night.
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Post by hammered on Dec 2, 2013 15:45:28 GMT
Are there any women in here?? No? well stop f—king whinging like them. Everton are a good team, Martinez inherited a quality squad and they’ve borrowed a couple of desirable strikers in Lukaku and Deulofeu that they’d unlikely afford under normal circumstances. Their home record is impressive and there is no shame in losing to them. Look at the table, after a 1/3 of the season there’s a three point swing between 10th and the relegation places – everyone from Hull downwards is in the mix to stay up/go down and that still includes IMO Palace, Sunderland and Fulham. Before this season even kicked off most would have the bottom 10 (maybe in a slightly different order) likely the same. Southampton are about the only team that look above their station currently but they have spent £60m+ and I don’t expect them to be there at the end of the season. Re Hughes: I can understand the comparisons with Pulis – but he’s gone now. His achievements should of course be remembered but its Hughes at the helm now and 13 games is hardly enough time to judge the bloke. And nothing is decided in December!! Win Wednesday and you could be mid-table. Re Pulis: We’ve Palaces first home game tomorrow under Pulis who’ll no doubt be adorned in a neatly pressed dark blue, splash-proof track suit with matching Chav cap and white trainers shouting go-aarn John - have them cynically organised not to concede, not to play football and try and nick a win through a set-play or 2nd ball from a Moxley long-throw. I’d have thought most Stokies would have been happy to move on from this comical dinosaur. Re signings: Apparently Sam was after Arnie in the summer but he chose you. Stoke over London – that put’s that one to bed and at least you didn’t blow your transfer budget on a crocked Geordie whos yet to kick a ball this season!!
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Post by capto on Dec 2, 2013 16:08:11 GMT
We will go down, maybe not this year, but one season, sooner or later. Our history confirms this: we're not quite big enough to be a permanent top tier club: we have to get it all right at the club & all pulling in the same direction to get there & to stay there. As supporters we feed off the players; after Saturday, apart from a handful of notable exceptions, there didn't seem to be a hunger to play for Stoke City: and that is disappointing. I think that alone spells trouble for us. Hopefully, MH can sort it out. Chop out the dead wood; maybe look to established prem players who are past their prime, but are professionals & come in a do a job for a couple of seasons (eg Mike Doyle, Abdoulah Faye, James Beattie maybe), while looking for young hungry players who want to prove themselves - I'm kinda thinking of British players here, who have an understanding of british football, rather than foreign players who seem to prefer the bright lights (& fatter pay packets - guess you conna blame them) of London, Manc, Souseland etc. Don't think we can switch from pulis type football to hughes type football in a short time - to quote from our recent past: evolution not revolution!
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Post by redditchpotter on Dec 2, 2013 20:43:19 GMT
Alot of these posters have only ever known Pulis, 11 years we had of him (minus the 9 months of Loony Tunes). A new (different) manager to them is totally alien. Good job they weren't around for Barker all the way up to Thordasson eh, some wrist slashing would have been going on!! Give the bloke time FFS, oh and a bit of dosh in January, then judge him, not after 13 games. not to mention joe jordan and alan ball
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Post by lordb on Dec 3, 2013 13:50:25 GMT
Alot of these posters have only ever known Pulis, 11 years we had of him (minus the 9 months of Loony Tunes). A new (different) manager to them is totally alien. Good job they weren't around for Barker all the way up to Thordasson eh, some wrist slashing would have been going on!! Give the bloke time FFS, oh and a bit of dosh in January, then judge him, not after 13 games. not to mention joe jordan and alan ball tbh Hughes reminds me of Jordan I hope I'm very wrong about that. I want to see some fight in the side tomorrow night. Throw in a bit of football too & that should be enough?
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Post by Roy Cropper on Dec 3, 2013 17:23:34 GMT
We really are going down, how can people not see this. We are so shit ive honestly just given up now and i am no longer stoke city after that horrible performace on the weekend
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Post by stokiesteve on Dec 3, 2013 17:32:33 GMT
not to mention joe jordan and alan ball tbh Hughes reminds me of Jordan I hope I'm very wrong about that. I want to see some fight in the side tomorrow night. Throw in a bit of football too & that should be enough? I though the very same myself. Very similar circs as well, he took over from a successful manager and we all went asleep. This does have the stink of a relegation season. I don't think many players are arsed this year, reckon even Ryan is ready to go.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 3, 2013 17:54:53 GMT
Whydelilah ,stop the Pulis bollox we were awful from xmas last season ,hardly won a game after that Liverpool game.We gave up most away games before we started. Hughes has not changed anything really dramatically. Apart from totally changing the way we play!
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Post by roastcheese on Dec 3, 2013 19:09:28 GMT
In my humble opinion, this is the beginning of The End (The End of our Premier League status) :-( I hope I am wrong, and I hope it’s not another 23 years before we return, I’ll be retired or even dead by then. I’m normally quite optimistic, but after witnessing all the games so far this season, I’m afraid its that bad. We can’t score, we can’t defend, basically we are shit. :-( I can’t see three teams worse than ourselves.
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Post by werrington on Dec 3, 2013 19:15:26 GMT
In my humble opinion, this is the beginning of The End (The End of our Premier League status) :-( I hope I am wrong, and I hope it’s not another 23 years before we return, I’ll be retired or even dead by then. I’m normally quite optimistic, but after witnessing all the games so far this season, I’m afraid its that bad. We can’t score, we can’t defend, basically we are shit. :-( I can’t see three teams worse than ourselves. Can't score ?
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Post by RAF on Dec 3, 2013 19:20:04 GMT
In my humble opinion, this is the beginning of The End (The End of our Premier League status) I hope I am wrong, and I hope it’s not another 23 years before we return, I’ll be retired or even dead by then. I’m normally quite optimistic, but after witnessing all the games so far this season, I’m afraid its that bad. We can’t score, we can’t defend, basically we are shit. :-( I can’t see three teams worse than ourselves. Dunna worry Roast, you only watch Stoke to socialise and drink beer anyway pal. H
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Post by roastcheese on Dec 3, 2013 19:21:44 GMT
We have only scored 12 goals in 13 games. :-(
I had an argument in my local pub last Sunday with a Villa fan. We argued over who was the shitty-est team. And we came to the conclusion that we are both shite, but Stoke are just that little bit more shitty-er.
I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by roastcheese on Dec 3, 2013 19:40:36 GMT
I watch Stoke City to socialise and drink beer and eat pies, that’s correct, but I would like them to win a game once in a while.
I have seen Stoke relegated three times in my lifetime, and I’m getting that gut feeling again. It’s either that or the other half’s cooking.
I don’t live in Stoke-on-Trent, and I am trying my hardest to brainwash my 7 year old son into supporting Stoke. I’m 99% there, but all his glory-hunting mates all support Chelsea, Man Poo, Liverpool and even fecking Barcelona. Its not easy. If we get relegated, it’s not worth thinking about.
I really hope we can stay up, for my sons sake. And my insanity.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 3, 2013 20:02:15 GMT
All I can say is I'm glad a lot of the "contributers" to this site don't play for Stoke. They seem to have given up already.
I agree there are a number of players who don't seem to care, but I guess MH has their number and will change things (them) as soon as he is able.
Why do you think MH and TP put Walters out every week to play? Because he tries hard and sets an example. The worst thing MH could do is drop Walters unless he has someone better to play. What sort of message would it send to the rest of the squad if MH dropped Walters. I wouldn't be surprised to see TP come after Walters in January.
Newcastle have shown that a few good results and you can shoot up the table. MH needs the supporters to back the team to turn things around.
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Post by stokiesteve on Dec 3, 2013 20:47:17 GMT
I watch Stoke City to socialise and drink beer and eat pies, that’s correct, but I would like them to win a game once in a while. I have seen Stoke relegated three times in my lifetime, and I’m getting that gut feeling again. It’s either that or the other half’s cooking. I don’t live in Stoke-on-Trent, and I am trying my hardest to brainwash my 7 year old son into supporting Stoke. I’m 99% there, but all his glory-hunting mates all support Chelsea, Man Poo, Liverpool and even fecking Barcelona. Its not easy. If we get relegated, it’s not worth thinking about. I really hope we can stay up, for my sons sake. And my insanity. I'm with you on the son of seven years old pal. I am also trying my hardest to engrain Stoke into my lads head. It kinda works, he wears the strip and has the poster, but he has still asked for a Barcalona top for Xmas! I have also seen relegation three times and feel the same in my water as you do pal. Lack of player commitment, the owners seem to be drifting away from any further large scale investment and sparky is doing his best with a type cast group of players. It's not all lost, if we can pick up a few more points and we get a bit of investment in January we could still scrape in, but if nothing much changes I think it may be our turn to go. It has to be said mind, I didn't expect us to be premier still in 2008!
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Post by ianrb1 on Dec 3, 2013 21:16:38 GMT
In my humble opinion, this is the beginning of The End (The End of our Premier League status) :-( I hope I am wrong, and I hope it’s not another 23 years before we return, I’ll be retired or even dead by then. I’m normally quite optimistic, but after witnessing all the games so far this season, I’m afraid its that bad. We can’t score, we can’t defend, basically we are shit. :-( I can’t see three teams worse than ourselves. There is time to stop this and that is for Hughes to be removed sooner rather than later.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 21:28:45 GMT
In my humble opinion, this is the beginning of The End (The End of our Premier League status) :-( I hope I am wrong, and I hope it’s not another 23 years before we return, I’ll be retired or even dead by then. I’m normally quite optimistic, but after witnessing all the games so far this season, I’m afraid its that bad. We can’t score, we can’t defend, basically we are shit. :-( I can’t see three teams worse than ourselves. There is time to stop this and that is for Hughes to be removed sooner rather than later. And bring who in? You think the answer is to just tear it up before giving it a chance to work?
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Post by Ron on Dec 3, 2013 21:46:41 GMT
The optimism of some on here is astounding. We are sinking like a ship. Don't let one win against a side worse than us blinker any views. We give goals away for fun. Impotent in front of goal. Work shy in midfield. Players who have lost the ability to do the basics. Players who look like they can't be arsed. Players who don't track opposition runs. Players with no pace or passion. Players who just don't give a shit about stoke city FC. Open your eyes and see that this is the beginning of the end. I love my club and will always support my team however I just can't see how sparkys going to turn this around. We are a poor poor side. Ireland arnautovic minusea assaidi have hardly improved us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 3, 2013 23:37:59 GMT
Players who don't track runs do piss me off, the two biggest for it are N'Zonzi and Walters. And they've been doing it since they first played for us.
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Post by roastcheese on Dec 4, 2013 6:34:17 GMT
If by 5pm on Saturday, Stoke City are still on 13 points. The pressure on Mark Hughes will be immense. And God help him, if Crystal Palace are above us.
I’m not saying its all his fault, the bad results and performances have been gradually getting worse for 18 months, nigh on 2 years.
I can’t see Peter Coates sacking Hughes this early in his tenure. But if you were Peter Coates would you give Mark Hughes "loadsa money" to spend in January?
Let’s hope for three points tonight. By hook or by crook!
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Post by efc61 on Dec 4, 2013 7:04:23 GMT
I was at the match on Saturday and sorry all, you were by far the worst I've seen this season and I have not missed a Everton match this year. I predict Pulis to keep Palace up at your expense, why you got rid of him in the first place seems bizzare to me!?.........
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Post by stokeramblers on Dec 4, 2013 7:07:25 GMT
I was at the match on Saturday and sorry all, you were by far the worst I've seen this season and I have not missed a Everton match this year. I predict Pulis to keep Palace up at your expense, why you got rid of him in the first place seems bizzare to me!?......... Because we were playing ugly bugly football! Now we are going to samba our way to success, Ole! Ole! Ole! Ole!
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Post by mcf on Dec 4, 2013 7:14:49 GMT
Bizzare indeed efc61...
...but still rubber stamped by most of the crowd on here.
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Post by efc61 on Dec 4, 2013 7:31:08 GMT
I honestly wish Stoke well, pretty sure Pulis would have kept you up with ease. I really was suprised you took a major gamble with Mark Hughes if I'm honest!?......
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Post by mcf on Dec 4, 2013 7:40:30 GMT
...you are not the only one
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 7:46:45 GMT
I was at the match on Saturday and sorry all, you were by far the worst I've seen this season and I have not missed a Everton match this year. I predict Pulis to keep Palace up at your expense, why you got rid of him in the first place seems bizzare to me!?......... How sorry were you to see the back of Moyes, out of interest?
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Post by MrMagic on Dec 4, 2013 7:50:08 GMT
In my humble opinion, this is the beginning of The End (The End of our Premier League status) :-( I hope I am wrong, and I hope it’s not another 23 years before we return, I’ll be retired or even dead by then. I’m normally quite optimistic, but after witnessing all the games so far this season, I’m afraid its that bad. We can’t score, we can’t defend, basically we are shit. :-( I can’t see three teams worse than ourselves. There is time to stop this and that is for Hughes to be removed sooner rather than later. And replace him with who Ian?? What ever happened to "too soon to judge" "give him until at least xxxxxx"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 7:51:25 GMT
I honestly wish Stoke well, pretty sure Pulis would have kept you up with ease. I really was suprised you took a major gamble with Mark Hughes if I'm honest!?...... There was a slow decline under Pulis and I thought it was time to call it a day for a few reasons; not least because the transfer market had obviously been taken out of his hands (and I do understand why there was nervousness from the owners) - but Pulis is old school and that situation would have been completely unworkable in the longer term. However, if I'd been informed that Hughes was the only name on our list I might have considered that quite a gamble...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 15:14:18 GMT
We really are going down, how can people not see this. We are so shit ive honestly just given up now and i am no longer stoke city after that horrible performace on the weekend if you're "No longer Stoke City" after one bad result against a side that haven't lost a competitive match there in the whole calendar year then you never really were "Stoke City" in the first place you overly dramatic, whining cock!
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