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Post by itsmorethanagame on Dec 1, 2013 17:24:02 GMT
Hughes signed 3 wingers in the summer and failed to sign a striker when it was absolute priority. But you two johnni and Wezzer don't think he should be accountable at all for this?
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 1, 2013 17:25:18 GMT
Bob...what more can he do mate? You tell me because I've seen our new manager do and say pretty much everything right! He's picked players on merit. When someones come in and done well, he's played them the following week. He's told them that they are a talented squad, he's told them they've played well in games where results have gone against them. He's told them they weren't good enough v Norwich and he's told them that they can go to places like Manure and Arsenal and have a go at winning. He's signed some decent players on a limited budget and he's been in charge for 12 games to date. He inherited a team that has struggled for 2 years solid and he hasn't been given the resources, for whatever reason, to make the changes that need to be made. As things stand, I'm unsure as to what more Hughes can do. I absolutely detest some of our players and the sooner Hughes or a new manager fucks them off the better really. I'd risk relegation in a heartbeat if it meant we could just rip up the contracts of the likes of Crouch, Adam, KJ, Wilson, Palacios and Walters. Blimey DJ relegation's a bridge to far for a clean sweep of the stables !! ;-) As I said, I think he needs to make an effort to get us on board and share the plan / roadmap more to give us a bit more confidence - I know it's only a couple of minutes on the radio, and body language and stuff but he needs to be leveraging these opportunities to sell the vision..... I was hoping he'd be more inspirational than he seems to be both on & off the pitch, and an antidote to the bland Pulisisms we'd all grown tired of. He may well get there in time, but unfortunately for him, and us, the grim reality of dropping out of the Prem gravy train looms large and Coates PLC will want to protect their investment come what may..... I hope it works out I really do - from Weds night an on........we shall see what transpires....
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Post by werrington on Dec 1, 2013 17:34:04 GMT
Hughes signed 3 wingers in the summer and failed to sign a striker when it was absolute priority. But you two johnni and Wezzer don't think he should be accountable at all for this? Do you want him to sign just any old striker and pay an extortionate fee for him ?.....wow mate He knows who he wants and is prepared to wait for him
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 1, 2013 17:35:37 GMT
He hasn't been here long enough to be bullish about things and perhaps that's something he learnt from his time at QPR.
He's trying to go about a very difficult job quietly and I think for now, that is the right way.
Time will tell if he's the right man for the job. I think he could be but its going to take time and patience from lots of people, including the fans.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 1, 2013 17:39:31 GMT
You're right Morethanagame.
What I really wanted was for him to spunk away about 25m quid on shit like Crouch, KJ, Jerome and Walters regardless of how good they may have been.
Hughes identified 2 strikers he wanted and wasn't able to get either of them. Rather than spunk away even more money, we tried to address other areas in the hope of finding goals via alternative sources.
Who knows what January will bring.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Dec 1, 2013 17:48:29 GMT
Hughes signed 3 wingers in the summer and failed to sign a striker when it was absolute priority. But you two johnni and Wezzer don't think he should be accountable at all for this? Do you want him to sign just any old striker and pay an extortionate fee for him ?.....wow mate He knows who he wants and is prepared to wait for him No of course we needed to bring in a striker who would improve us. Hughes had the whole summer to find one. It's all well and good being patient but the lack of options up front could genuinely cost us our place in the premier league. 3 wingers were signed in the summer and I would have hoped they would have made a much bigger impact on the side. Hughes did have a big job in the summer but he signed 6 players and there has to be a degree of accountability. He has to earn his crust. He was brought in to improve us and the jury is out. Failing to sign a striker was a massive fuck up. And despite signing 3 wingers he still hasn't got anyone to dislodge Walters from the side. That's down to the man in charge now. You can't just rid him of all blame if he's under performing. If we are in the championship this time next year will you still be making excuses for him? At what point does Hughes become accountable?
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Post by werrington on Dec 1, 2013 17:52:49 GMT
Do you want him to sign just any old striker and pay an extortionate fee for him ?.....wow mate He knows who he wants and is prepared to wait for him No of course we needed to bring in a striker who would improve us. Hughes had the whole summer to find one. It's all well and good being patient but the lack of options up front could genuinely cost us our place in the premier league. 3 wingers were signed in the summer and I would have hoped they would have made a much bigger impact on the side. Hughes did have a big job in the summer but he signed 6 players and there has to be a degree of accountability. He has to earn his crust. He was brought in to improve us and the jury is out. Failing to sign a striker was a massive fuck up. And despite signing 3 wingers he still hasn't got anyone to dislodge Walters from the side. That's down to the man in charge now. You can't just rid him of all blame if he's under performing. If we are in the championship this time next year will you still be making excuses for him? At what point does Hughes become accountable? Certainly not after 13 games and a QF in the cup The days of big money signings on players who have hardly any resale value are gone now It's all relitive
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Post by shiftyfifty on Dec 1, 2013 18:05:39 GMT
I've read some crap from you lately but, this beats the lot. Its just a number dickhead! If my shit winds you up all the better! No need to get nasty and name call unless you're brave enough to say it to my face? Yes, it's just a number but, from your other posts regarding yesterday's performance I think you meant it.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Dec 1, 2013 18:06:22 GMT
No of course we needed to bring in a striker who would improve us. Hughes had the whole summer to find one. It's all well and good being patient but the lack of options up front could genuinely cost us our place in the premier league. 3 wingers were signed in the summer and I would have hoped they would have made a much bigger impact on the side. Hughes did have a big job in the summer but he signed 6 players and there has to be a degree of accountability. He has to earn his crust. He was brought in to improve us and the jury is out. Failing to sign a striker was a massive fuck up. And despite signing 3 wingers he still hasn't got anyone to dislodge Walters from the side. That's down to the man in charge now. You can't just rid him of all blame if he's under performing. If we are in the championship this time next year will you still be making excuses for him? At what point does Hughes become accountable? Certainly not after 13 games and a QF in the cup The days of big money signings on players who have hardly any resale value are gone now It's all relitive Fair enough. I do have some sympathy with Hughes and the possible lack of funds. And I agree that he needs more time. But I'm not willing to close my eyes at the current situation. There is a lot that is very worrying and I think we are in real danger of going down. It's time for both our manager and players to stand up and be counted.
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Post by shiftyfifty on Dec 1, 2013 18:08:27 GMT
You're right Morethanagame. What I really wanted was for him to spunk away about 25m quid on shit like Crouch, KJ, Jerome and Walters regardless of how good they may have been. Hughes identified 2 strikers he wanted and wasn't able to get either of them. Rather than spunk away even more money, we tried to address other areas in the hope of finding goals via alternative sources. Who knows what January will bring. He bought players in to strengthen our defense too, that's worked well hasn't it?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 1, 2013 18:42:30 GMT
You're right Morethanagame. What I really wanted was for him to spunk away about 25m quid on shit like Crouch, KJ, Jerome and Walters regardless of how good they may have been. Hughes identified 2 strikers he wanted and wasn't able to get either of them. Rather than spunk away even more money, we tried to address other areas in the hope of finding goals via alternative sources. Who knows what January will bring. He bought players in to strengthen our defense too, that's worked well hasn't it? Pieters has been pretty good and we look better down that side of the pitch than we did before. Huth has played all season on 1 leg as well. Our defense is no worse this season than its been the last 2 seasons. If you thought I meant my mark of 10 then you're even stupider than you often appear on here and must think I enjoy paying 70 odd quid to watch my team get stuffed!
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Post by stokiejoe on Dec 1, 2013 18:59:36 GMT
About 7 He started Muniesa and Assaidi, subbed Shea, so he has had an opportunity to see those players in a game where we have won once or twice since 1966. It didn't work out but he will have gained knowledge from the game.If this translates into transfer choices in January then at least the defeat achieved something.
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Post by werrington on Dec 1, 2013 19:02:51 GMT
Certainly not after 13 games and a QF in the cup The days of big money signings on players who have hardly any resale value are gone now It's all relitive Fair enough. I do have some sympathy with Hughes and the possible lack of funds. And I agree that he needs more time. But I'm not willing to close my eyes at the current situation. There is a lot that is very worrying and I think we are in real danger of going down. It's time for both our manager and players to stand up and be counted. This season was always going to be a battle for survival regardless of who the manager was It's been a downward spiral for two years now and the players in the squad are now found wanting as ....1 the old system under Pulis was found out and ....2 the players have no pace to fully work the way Hughes wants to play He needs time and patience
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