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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 6, 2013 19:44:06 GMT
Only one of our 10 league games this season has been settled by a margin greater than one goal. If we start scoring, we will start winning games. We are close to where we need to be i think. A bit more time and Hughes will start getting the balance right in my opinion.
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Post by harrysburrow on Nov 6, 2013 19:59:40 GMT
Fingers crossed mate.
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 6, 2013 20:02:48 GMT
And in that one game that ended 3-1 the score line flattered them tossers.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Nov 6, 2013 22:00:21 GMT
you make a great point actually. And many of those games we missed valuable opportunities to win. Man city, man utd, west brom, southampton all could have been won with a little bit of composure infront of goal. The good signs are there atleast.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 6, 2013 22:38:23 GMT
you make a great point actually. And many of those games we missed valuable opportunities to win. Man city, man utd, west brom, southampton all could have been won with a little bit of composure infront of goal. The good signs are there atleast. I think it's important that people realise there are very fine margins in football - just look at arsenal v dortmund tonight where had dortmund won by 3 then arsenal couldn't have complained - but they didnt. New managers often take time to settle - but we aren't far off having a decent side. Hughes will only grow more familiar with his players in time. We just have to make sure the pressure isn't too great on him and give him the benefit of the doubt for at least another 10 games I think and we will be fine. |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Nov 6, 2013 22:47:56 GMT
Next two games will hopefully be 4 points.
Sunderland game should be a gudun and we should take maximum points - a draw in this one will not be good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 22:50:06 GMT
teams that keep coming on the wrong side of that fine line usually get relegated
there is no time to waste now, we need a win in the next two games
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Post by nott1 on Nov 7, 2013 9:59:24 GMT
Next two games will hopefully be 4 points. Sunderland game should be a gudun and we should take maximum points - a draw in this one will not be good enough. They just beat Southampton! |
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Post by jarhead on Nov 7, 2013 10:13:00 GMT
Walters pen miss v Liverpool Cost us a point.
Walters 2 sitters v man city cost us 2 points.
Walters sitter at old tipford to go 2-0 Cost us big time because they were wobbling.
So 4 points dropped because of one inept wank player!
Walters out
We would be sitting on 13 pts in 11th!
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 7, 2013 10:35:18 GMT
Walters pen miss v Liverpool Cost us a point. Walters 2 sitters v man city cost us 2 points. Walters sitter at old tipford to go 2-0 Cost us big time because they were wobbling. So 4 points dropped because of one inept wank player! Walters out We would be sitting on 13 pts in 11th! Yep There seems to be one common denominator for the last 10 games and the 2 seasons prior. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Nov 7, 2013 10:41:03 GMT
"If we start scoring"? If we put a man on Mars?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 7, 2013 10:43:18 GMT
Walters pen miss v Liverpool Cost us a point. Walters 2 sitters v man city cost us 2 points. Walters sitter at old tipford to go 2-0 Cost us big time because they were wobbling. So 4 points dropped because of one inept wank player! Walters out We would be sitting on 13 pts in 11th! Yep There seems to be one common denominator for the last 10 games and the 2 seasons prior. Yeh, only Walters misses apparently  |
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 7, 2013 10:48:49 GMT
Yep There seems to be one common denominator for the last 10 games and the 2 seasons prior. Yeh, only Walters misses apparently Well I'd at least like to see how we went for say 5 to 8 games without him to finally put the argument to bed, if there's no change in our general quality then I would gladly shut the fuck up........I promise. |
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Post by prem4stoke on Nov 7, 2013 10:50:05 GMT
It's a good job other teams have players worse than Walters then, this is what the scores would have been had shots on target gone in!
Liverpool 7 Stoke 4
Stoke 4 Palace 5
Arsenal 8 Stoke 3
Fulham 2 Stoke 1
Stoke 2 Man C 3
Man U 5 Stoke 5
Stoke 1 Norwich 3
Stoke 3 Southampton 2
Stoke 3 West Brom 5
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Post by wuzza on Nov 7, 2013 10:57:14 GMT
The OP makes a very fair point. Hijacked by the usual anti-Walters clap trap.
In fact if our midfield and defense had gotten its act together better when the side was in the lead we would be in a good league position.
This is an issue a good management team should be able to address so hopefully Mr Hughes and his guys are on the case.
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 7, 2013 10:57:56 GMT
It's a good job other teams have players worse than Walters then, this is what the scores would have been had shots on target gone in! Liverpool 7 Stoke 4 Stoke 4 Palace 5 Arsenal 8 Stoke 3 Fulham 2 Stoke 1 Stoke 2 Man C 3 Man U 5 Stoke 5 Stoke 1 Norwich 3 Stoke 3 Southampton 2 Stoke 3 West Brom 5 So in the game I thought Jon had a good game we drew 5-5 in the games he has been a liability we lose, sounds to me JW needs to be a tad more consistent if it's possible. Not that I believe JW is the only problem at the moment but it would be a good place to start. |
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 7, 2013 11:04:37 GMT
The OP makes a very fair point. Hijacked by the usual anti-Walters clap trap. In fact if our midfield and defense had gotten its act together better when the side was in the lead we would be in a good league position. This is an issue a good management team should be able to address so hopefully Mr Hughes and his guys are on the case. Not been hijacked at all nearly getting it right involves MH experimenting with and without players in important positions but we seem to avoid experimenting with JW's starting place. |
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Post by rawli on Nov 7, 2013 11:06:53 GMT
It's a good job other teams have players worse than Walters then, this is what the scores would have been had shots on target gone in! Liverpool 7 Stoke 4 Stoke 4 Palace 5 Arsenal 8 Stoke 3 Fulham 2 Stoke 1 Stoke 2 Man C 3 Man U 5 Stoke 5 Stoke 1 Norwich 3 Stoke 3 Southampton 2 Stoke 3 West Brom 5 So in the game I thought Jon had a good game we drew 5-5 in the games he has been a liability we lose, sounds to me JW needs to be a tad more consistent if it's possible. Not that I believe JW is the only problem at the moment but it would be a good place to start. he's extremely consistent |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 11:07:15 GMT
It's a good job other teams have players worse than Walters then, this is what the scores would have been had shots on target gone in! Liverpool 7 Stoke 4 Stoke 4 Palace 5 Arsenal 8 Stoke 3 Fulham 2 Stoke 1 Stoke 2 Man C 3 Man U 5 Stoke 5 Stoke 1 Norwich 3 Stoke 3 Southampton 2 Stoke 3 West Brom 5 That's the kind of sexy football I want to be watching every week. The fact that we'd only have 4 points is irrelevant....... |
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Post by metalhead on Nov 7, 2013 15:05:34 GMT
I'm still confident we'll get better, I just hope Sparky starts to be a bit more ruthless. We've seen Hart get dropped for his awful performances of late. Well, for me, N'Zonzi needs dropping, send a kick up his arse that he isn't in the team unless he sorts his lazy-arse attitude out.
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 7, 2013 15:14:09 GMT
The same description could be applied to Moyes who inherited a fantastic squad and shed loads of money. It shows that change brings problems until it has bedded in.
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