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Post by borat on Nov 2, 2013 17:44:50 GMT
That was exactly what happened today, they controlled every area of the pitch. That first half was shocking, we were a touch better second half but still awful. We couldn't keep possession for more than about 10 to 15 seconds. Really disappointed with arnie today too, I'm getting worried.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 2, 2013 17:46:50 GMT
That was exactly what happened today, they controlled every area of the pitch. That first half was shocking, we were a touch better second half but still awful. We couldn't keep possession for more than about 10 to 15 seconds. Really disappointed with arnie today too, I'm getting worried. Thought we did OK the first 20, but faded after that! Shawcross should have buried the game today! What a sitter he missed!  |
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Post by greystokie on Nov 2, 2013 18:00:34 GMT
Our ball retention was shocking. They closed us down very quickly and forced us into making mistakes.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 2, 2013 18:00:46 GMT
That was exactly what happened today, they controlled every area of the pitch. That first half was shocking, we were a touch better second half but still awful. We couldn't keep possession for more than about 10 to 15 seconds. Really disappointed with arnie today too, I'm getting worried. Thought we did OK the first 20, but faded after that! Shawcross should have buried the game today! What a sitter he missed! 2 Weeks running we had the chance to go 2-0 up and fecked it up.  |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 2, 2013 18:05:14 GMT
They're a very decent side.
I thought the wind was the biggest factor today and ultimately, goal apart, I would have rather we played into it first half.
There are still positives, mainly the fact that we competed more like our old selves. A bit more composure and quality on a couple of occasions and we could even have nicked it.
Overall not too unhappy with a point against a good team in form.
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Post by Sparkiee on Nov 2, 2013 18:07:00 GMT
Very happy with a point.
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 2, 2013 18:19:02 GMT
Thought we did OK the first 20, but faded after that! Shawcross should have buried the game today! What a sitter he missed! 2 Weeks running we had the chance to go 2-0 up and fecked it up. They demonstrated that it takes a complete season at least to change style. We cannot afford to miss opportunities like that and we were lucky not to have conceded a penalty. Content with a point given the weather but it demonstrated that we need more than a striker if we are to improve. Arnie wasted a number of set ball opportunities as well. One to learn from. |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Nov 2, 2013 18:56:03 GMT
They're a very decent side. I thought the wind was the biggest factor today and ultimately, goal apart, I would have rather we played into it first half. There are still positives, mainly the fact that we competed more like our old selves. A bit more composure and quality on a couple of occasions and we could even have nicked it. Overall not too unhappy with a point against a good team in form. Teams used to come to stoke and play for a draw and if they got one they were delighted. Last two home games we are delighted with a point at home and now teams turn up with a win in their sights. We used to be organised as a team and solid in defence. Attacking we were shit! We are still shit in attack BUT now we are disorganised and piss poor at defending. Not what I had hoped for. |
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Post by mattface on Nov 2, 2013 21:00:01 GMT
For a team that dominated from start to finish how come Bego had nothing to do all afternoon. I can't recall a single time he was called into action after the first 13 seconds. For a side that was high on confidence they were the poorest side to visit the Brit so far this season. More clinical finishing we would have seen us take a well deserved 3 points, but then footie is all about opinions.
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Post by Fred Astaire on Nov 2, 2013 21:03:23 GMT
That was exactly what happened today, they controlled every area of the pitch. That first half was shocking, we were a touch better second half but still awful. We couldn't keep possession for more than about 10 to 15 seconds. Really disappointed with arnie today too, I'm getting worried. Absolute bullshit, we easily dominated the first 13 seconds but after that we faded!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 21:43:42 GMT
Start to finish? We were the better side second half I thought.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Nov 2, 2013 21:50:33 GMT
Fitter sharper better organised , they were easily the better side today but they lacked the quality in the final third to kill us off
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Post by thevoid on Nov 2, 2013 22:02:25 GMT
It was better than the West Brom game by a cat's whisker, but it would have been another blank without Bego's fluke. Getting worried  |
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Post by metalhead on Nov 3, 2013 1:51:04 GMT
Considering I thought the wind was just as strong, if not stronger in the second half, I thought we came out and give it a go. On another day, we might have nicked it. We dominated the first 20 minutes, we had a long period of averageness with little glimpses in the second half, then the last 10 minutes, I thought we were the better side and ended the stronger of the two teams.
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Post by skelman on Nov 3, 2013 2:01:32 GMT
Our ball retention was shocking. They closed us down very quickly and forced us into making mistakes. Not so sure that it takes an awful lot to make us make mistakes!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 2:33:11 GMT
Our ball retention was shocking. They closed us down very quickly and forced us into making mistakes. Funnily enough it was exactly this what made US hard to best to what seems many moons ago now. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 7:23:13 GMT
Our ball retention was shocking. They closed us down very quickly and forced us into making mistakes. Funnily enough it was exactly this what made US hard to best to what seems many moons ago now. It was many moons ago Tazi. About 2011 in fact. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 3, 2013 8:26:21 GMT
Start to finish? We were the better side second half I thought. Not sure I agree with that Rob. We were chasing shadows for most of the second half. They absolutely controlled the game from start to finish. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 8:44:05 GMT
Funnily enough it was exactly this what made US hard to best to what seems many moons ago now. It was many moons ago Tazi. About 2011 in fact. Indeed it was mate but it was that which made us competitive but now I see not one shred of it as all I see is players with not one bit of backbone particularly in the middle of the park. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 8:54:32 GMT
Start to finish? We were the better side second half I thought. Not sure I agree with that Rob. We were chasing shadows for most of the second half. They absolutely controlled the game from start to finish. Although they controlled the majority of the game in terms of possession I felt we had the better opportunities. Last 15 minutes we came at them and I felt we might sneak it. Apart from the offside chance at the end (blatant foul by Lambert) we finished by far the stronger team imo...... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 9:21:55 GMT
It was many moons ago Tazi. About 2011 in fact. Indeed it was mate but it was that which made us competitive but now I see not one shred of it as all I see is players with not one bit of backbone particularly in the middle of the park. Evidence of it was fast disappearing long before Hughes was a twinkle in Coates' eye. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 9:23:53 GMT
Start to finish? We were the better side second half I thought. Not sure I agree with that Rob. We were chasing shadows for most of the second half. They absolutely controlled the game from start to finish. Can't agree with that when we were on the front foot for large parts of the second half and looked easily the more likely team to score. I know Southampton are the football hipster's dream at the moment, play lovely football etc but I thought by their standards they were fairly ordinary after the break having impressed before it. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 3, 2013 9:34:22 GMT
It was many moons ago Tazi. About 2011 in fact. Indeed it was mate but it was that which made us competitive but now I see not one shred of it as all I see is players with not one bit of backbone particularly in the middle of the park. They are Pulis's players so he has to be held partly responsible. Granted Hughes isn't doing himself any favours at the minute notably the bizarre substitution of Wilson for Arnie last week and his absolutely unforgivable insistence on playing Walters every week but let's not pretend the past was better. Hughes is trying to change things but at the moment it's a half hearted change and it's evidently not working. Yesterday was the perfect opportunity to play Assaidi and drop Walters but he couldn't bring himself to do it. The next 2 games are massive. We need to give Hughes till the beginning of December imo at least but he simply can't afford to lose the next couple of games v Swansea and Sunderland. |
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Post by craig67 on Nov 3, 2013 9:44:08 GMT
Funnily enough it was exactly this what made US hard to best to what seems many moons ago now. It was many moons ago Tazi. About 2011 in fact. We went on a 10 match unbeaten run at the end of last year-it was the draw against Soton that ended it. So perhaps we will go on a run now! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 9:45:51 GMT
It was many moons ago Tazi. About 2011 in fact. We went on a 10 match unbeaten run at the end of last year-it was the draw against Soton that ended it. So perhaps we will go on a run now! We weren't flying out at teams and pressing them to within an inch of their lives though. We were pretty shit for a fair chunk of that run. |
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Post by craig67 on Nov 3, 2013 10:01:12 GMT
You can be dire and still can on a run-I would take that at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 10:02:17 GMT
You can be dire and still can on a run-I would take that at the moment. I agree, but Tazi implying everything was great before Hughes is cynical bullshit from a man who wants Stoke to fail. |
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Post by borat on Nov 3, 2013 10:06:51 GMT
Start to finish? We were the better side second half I thought. Are you taking the piss? Well apart from the last 10 mins I suppose? Southampton were far from average. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 10:08:41 GMT
Start to finish? We were the better side second half I thought. Are you taking the piss? Well apart from the last 10 mins I suppose? Southampton were far from average. What did Southampton create second half? After the break we came out and though we weren't brilliant, we had the ball in the final third a lot, played some decent stuff, had one really good chance and stayed on the front foot for large spells. |
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Post by borat on Nov 3, 2013 10:11:03 GMT
With a top class striker they could easily be top 6.
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