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Post by iglugluk on Oct 5, 2013 15:55:19 GMT
I'm sorry but I just don't understand it. I also don't understand why it took MH so long to bring one on.
Arnautovic kept on drifting out to the wing i.e. where he usually plays . Surely we should have started with him and Assaidi on the wings and Jones/Crouch up front.
This is all as a result of the Coates family policy over the summer transfer window and it's,too late to sort it until January...I don't get it
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Post by liamo on Oct 5, 2013 15:56:41 GMT
Hangelland going off was the perfect time to bring Jones on, it's so blatantly obvious that we need a new strike force in january
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Post by fortressbritannia on Oct 5, 2013 15:56:45 GMT
It's puzzling as to why Walters didn't play through the middle and Arnie out wide.
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Oct 5, 2013 15:57:38 GMT
no striker = no goals
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Post by jeycov on Oct 5, 2013 15:59:19 GMT
Maybe Jones behaviour has been an issue this week and he was on the bench as a result 16th now west Ham could go above us |
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Post by chellpotter on Oct 5, 2013 15:59:27 GMT
Not just strikers, strikers who can actually shoot and score!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 5, 2013 16:00:19 GMT
Tbf this season strikers=no goals. Not playing them is a bit of a none issue, the issue is the strikers themselves. They're fucking gobshite.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 5, 2013 16:03:13 GMT
I'm sorry but I just don't understand it. I also don't understand why it took MH so long to bring one on. Arnautovic kept on drifting out to the wing i.e. where he usually plays . Surely we should have started with him and Assaidi on the wings and Jones/Crouch up front. This is all as a result of the Coates family policy over the summer transfer window and it's,too late to sort it until January...I don't get it It's because hughes is shit. As soon as he saw that Hangland (sp) didn't come out for the 2nd half he should have had Crouch on the pitch. Starting the game without a proper striker was bad enough but not bringing our hight after theirs went off is just fuckin stupid! |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 5, 2013 16:04:38 GMT
I'm sorry but I just don't understand it. I also don't understand why it took MH so long to bring one on. Arnautovic kept on drifting out to the wing i.e. where he usually plays . Surely we should have started with him and Assaidi on the wings and Jones/Crouch up front. This is all as a result of the Coates family policy over the summer transfer window and it's,too late to sort it until January...I don't get it To be fair a lot of people had been on here this week were suggesting that Arnie should start up top, although personally I argued against it. If the manager did want to get the idea out of his system though, then I guess this game was as good as any to give it a go. I think we can safely assume we won't be seeing it attempted again. It simply has to be ... Arnie----Jones----Assaidi to start against the Baggies. |
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 5, 2013 16:04:47 GMT
Tbf this season strikers=no goals. Not playing them is a bit of a none issue, the issue is the strikers themselves. They're fucking gobshite. Sorry cannot agree they might be gob-shite but not playing them at all is definitely an issue when there are no other choices ..we are not Barca afterall. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 5, 2013 16:06:31 GMT
Tbf this season strikers=no goals. Not playing them is a bit of a none issue, the issue is the strikers themselves. They're fucking gobshite. Sorry cannot agree they might be gob-shite but not playing them at all is definitely an issue when there are no other choices ..we are not Barca afterall. There are other choices, they played today and it didn't work. We're a bit fucked.  |
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Post by serpico on Oct 5, 2013 16:06:41 GMT
Tbf this season strikers=no goals. Not playing them is a bit of a none issue, the issue is the strikers themselves. They're fucking gobshite. Agree, but the fact Hughes didn't take advantage of Hangelaand going off is concerning, it was a absolute no brainer to bring a big striker on once he'd gone off, I'd have gone for Kenwyne purely because he's been playing regularly. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 5, 2013 16:07:58 GMT
Tbf this season strikers=no goals. Not playing them is a bit of a none issue, the issue is the strikers themselves. They're fucking gobshite. Agree, but the fact Hughes didn't take advantage of Hangelaand going off is concerning, it was a absolute no brainer to bring a big striker on once he'd gone off, I'd have gone for Kenwyne purely because he's been playing regularly. True. It seems though that Hughes has had enough of them, which is another concern. We need an Alabi.  |
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 5, 2013 16:08:23 GMT
I'm sorry but I just don't understand it. I also don't understand why it took MH so long to bring one on. Arnautovic kept on drifting out to the wing i.e. where he usually plays . Surely we should have started with him and Assaidi on the wings and Jones/Crouch up front. This is all as a result of the Coates family policy over the summer transfer window and it's,too late to sort it until January...I don't get it To be fair a lot of people had been on here this week were suggesting that Arnie should start up top, although personally I argued against it. If the manager did want to get the idea out of his system though, then I guess this game was as good as any to give it a go. I think we can safely assume we won't be seeing it attempted again. It simply has to be ... Arnie----Jones----Assaidi to start against the Baggies. I know alot of people were suggesting it but surely Hughes can see that Arnie isn't a striker ( seems clear to me anyway look at his goal return) it has been clear since the beginning of the season. I think turning to him smells of desperation and as such it is worrying. Suddenly the decision to loan Jerome seems even more inexplicable, I know I keep going on about but I don't understand. |
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 5, 2013 16:10:04 GMT
Sorry cannot agree they might be gob-shite but not playing them at all is definitely an issue when there are no other choices ..we are not Barca afterall. There are other choices, they played today and it didn't work. We're a bit fucked. Can't say I can see many other choice....what are they? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2013 16:10:43 GMT
Hopefully it's point proven to Jones now. He's an absolute nightmare for managers. It's almost like nothing anyone else does affects his mood, it's completely up to him whether he is up for it or not.
Shocking really, as you'd think he'd be busting a gut to get a premier league contract. But then if you've been earning 2 million a year for as long as he has then maybe it doesn't seem that important?
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Post by serpico on Oct 5, 2013 16:11:28 GMT
I'm not saying this with hindsight, as soon as i heard Hangelaand was going off i thought It was the most obvious substitution ever, yet he didn't make it! very very strange.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 5, 2013 16:13:25 GMT
To be fair a lot of people had been on here this week were suggesting that Arnie should start up top, although personally I argued against it. If the manager did want to get the idea out of his system though, then I guess this game was as good as any to give it a go. I think we can safely assume we won't be seeing it attempted again. It simply has to be ... Arnie----Jones----Assaidi to start against the Baggies. I know alot of people were suggesting it but surely Hughes can see that Arnie isn't a striker ( seems clear to me anyway look at his goal return) it has been clear since the beginning of the season. I think turning to him smells of desperation and as such it is worrying. Suddenly the decision to loan Jerome seems even more inexplicable, I know I keep going on about but I don't understand. I think the front three that starts against the Baggies will speak volumes. Walters AGAIN offered us absolutely nothing today and Matty is a busted flush, Crouch is too slow to play as a lone striker. The front three almost picks itself by default imo. |
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Post by lancer on Oct 5, 2013 16:13:27 GMT
How much will it cost to get a fifteen goals a season man? How much will relegation cost us? We have to make opur mind up now to push the boat out, get the striker we need ASAP in January.Listening to the game today, watching the Norwich game is so bloody frustrating. We can do anything except score.Don't know where the man we need is, but we'd better bloody well find him. Every other team seems to find the one they want, as far a scoring player is concerned anyway. And let's be perfectly honest, Crouch and Jones are not going to do the job. Crouch is past it, Jones doesn't look like getting there.
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Post by kurt on Oct 5, 2013 16:13:33 GMT
I'm sorry but I just don't understand it. I also don't understand why it took MH so long to bring one on. Arnautovic kept on drifting out to the wing i.e. where he usually plays . Surely we should have started with him and Assaidi on the wings and Jones/Crouch up front. This is all as a result of the Coates family policy over the summer transfer window and it's,too late to sort it until January...I don't get it To be fair a lot of people had been on here this week were suggesting that Arnie should start up top, although personally I argued against it. If the manager did want to get the idea out of his system though, then I guess this game was as good as any to give it a go. I think we can safely assume we won't be seeing it attempted again. It simply has to be ... Arnie----Jones----Assaidi to start against the Baggies. Agree.....Arni is no central forward!!!! Hughes should know that. Many of his Austrian fellow countrymen posted it here, as Arni arrived in Stoke-on-Trent. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 5, 2013 16:13:46 GMT
At least people on here will now stop asking for a winger to be played up front, it didn't work and now we need to go back to Jones.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 5, 2013 16:13:47 GMT
There are other choices, they played today and it didn't work. We're a bit fucked. Can't say I can see many other choice....what are they? Walters, Arnie or Alabi. I never said they were good ones. But neither are Crouch and KJ. Alabi despite being about as ready as my tea is fast becoming the winner in my head. He fills me with less dread than the rest as it stands. I need help. |
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 5, 2013 16:14:58 GMT
I'm not saying this with hindsight, as soon as i heard Hangelaand was going off i thought It was the most obvious substitution ever, yet he didn't make it! very very strange. Hopefully the manager isn't getting frozen in horror by the truth of the situation in which he finds himself i.e. that we may very well have no goal scorers until January at the earliest. |
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Post by starkiller on Oct 5, 2013 16:16:22 GMT
Glad to not see Jones after one of the most shameful performances in Stoke City history, whilst earning 3 or 4 times more for it than many in the crowd get in a year.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 5, 2013 16:16:22 GMT
I know alot of people were suggesting it but surely Hughes can see that Arnie isn't a striker ( seems clear to me anyway look at his goal return) it has been clear since the beginning of the season. I think turning to him smells of desperation and as such it is worrying. Suddenly the decision to loan Jerome seems even more inexplicable, I know I keep going on about but I don't understand. I think the front three that starts against the Baggies will speak volumes. Walters AGAIN offered us absolutely nothing today and Matty is a busted flush, Crouch is too slow to play as a lone striker. The front three almost picks itself by default imo. But playing a front 3 is getting us fuck all. It is the system that isn't working as much as the players. It is all well and good passing the ball around but we are getting fuck all at the end of it. We took the piss out of the baggies for the same thing a few years back. The system needs to be changed. |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 5, 2013 16:17:16 GMT
At least people on here will now stop asking for a winger to be played up front, it didn't work and now we need to go back to Jones. But jones is shit. |
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Post by redsaturday on Oct 5, 2013 16:18:36 GMT
It's puzzling as to why Walters didn't play through the middle and Arnie out wide. I too thought this strange |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 5, 2013 16:18:54 GMT
At least people on here will now stop asking for a winger to be played up front, it didn't work and now we need to go back to Jones. But jones is shit. Best of a shit group I'm affraid, the only one that can really play the way we want to atm. |
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 5, 2013 16:18:57 GMT
Can't say I can see many other choice....what are they? Walters, Arnie or Alabi. I never said they were good ones. But neither are Crouch and KJ. Alabi despite being about as ready as my tea is fast becoming the winner in my head. He fills me with less dread than the rest as it stands. I need help. As you've said though are they real choices....hmmmm very uncertain indeed, maybe Walters but seems like Hughes likes him as a winger....god knows why. I still think we need to get Jones motivated he's not always gash and if he can get on a run he's the best we've got for how we play imo 'til January. |
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Post by siminor on Oct 5, 2013 16:19:37 GMT
Strikers?? we could of gone for plenty...Even playen walters as a winger?? who shud of just smashed that shot instead of taken another touch, yes we shud of had 2 penos but 1 shot on target nearly all game is a joke....I Even think the formaion is wrong..Looking Good on paper,hahaha
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