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Post by johnnysoul60 on Sept 29, 2013 17:40:09 GMT
Not just a go at us but Hughes seems to buy into this nonsense , I'm all for passing the ball but without pace and momentum it's garbage as we saw today
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Post by newsteadst3 on Sept 29, 2013 17:50:35 GMT
agree totally, if theres no purpose to it, then there is no point, we will end up like crewe alex
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Post by luke45 on Sept 29, 2013 17:52:46 GMT
Our performance today was identical to the first half against Palace, absolutely no tempo at all. Personally I would've brought Assaidi on for Jones instead of Crouch and moved Arnie as the leading striker, we were crying out for an injection of pace and Crouch was never going to provide it.
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Post by stokemark on Sept 29, 2013 17:56:00 GMT
Our performance today was identical to the first half against Palace, absolutely no tempo at all. Personally I would've brought Assaidi on for Jones instead of Crouch and moved Arnie as the leading striker, we were crying out for an injection of pace and Crouch was never going to provide it. Said the same chief Bringing on Crouch when you are crying out for pace was nuts. - the poorest selection decision made by Hughes to date |
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Post by AlanHansen on Sept 29, 2013 18:00:09 GMT
The sooner we fuck Crouch off and he's no longer an option, the better for all concerned.
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Post by werrington on Sept 29, 2013 18:05:01 GMT
The decision to swap Jones for Crouch was mind boggling as it achieved nothing and was never going too
Arnie should of gone centre forward with Assaidi coming on
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Post by stokemark on Sept 29, 2013 18:07:23 GMT
The sooner we fuck Crouch off and he's no longer an option, the better for all concerned. We are relying on him to come off the bench and score as we have infact weakened the attack by loaning out Jerome and with Owen retiring |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2013 18:07:49 GMT
The decision to swap Jones for Crouch was mind boggling as it achieved nothing and was never going too Arnie should of gone centre forward with Assaidi coming on Arnie as a false 9 with two pace men (when we have two) alongside him is a viable plan B. |
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Post by burge2u on Sept 29, 2013 18:51:59 GMT
The decision to swap Jones for Crouch was mind boggling as it achieved nothing and was never going too Arnie should of gone centre forward with Assaidi coming on Bob on ! |
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Post by burge2u on Sept 29, 2013 18:53:09 GMT
The decision to swap Jones for Crouch was mind boggling as it achieved nothing and was never going too Arnie should of gone centre forward with Assaidi coming on Bob on ! |
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Post by wembley1972 on Sept 29, 2013 19:02:05 GMT
The decision to swap Jones for Crouch was mind boggling as it achieved nothing and was never going too Arnie should of gone centre forward with Assaidi coming on Bob on ! Totally agree, Arnie was the only bright light in an otherwise dark day, he worked hard up and down the pitch, he should have been used on the shoulder of the last defender, his pace and strength would have paid dividends as long as we could find someone willing to play a forward pass. |
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Post by redwhite on Sept 29, 2013 19:04:00 GMT
Crouch wasn't what we needed to bring on but to be fair to him he did everything he could have. He was much stronger in the air than Jones and did little wrong on the ball.
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Post by werrington on Sept 29, 2013 19:05:17 GMT
Crouch wasn't what we needed to bring on but to be fair to him he did everything he could have. He was much stronger in the air than Jones and did little wrong on the ball. Wow.... and I mean wow!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2013 19:05:30 GMT
Afraid the argument about Jerome doesn't,t hold water, as he,s another nearly man. The problem is, we,ve got too many in the squad, as it is!
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Post by redwhite on Sept 29, 2013 19:07:23 GMT
Crouch wasn't what we needed to bring on but to be fair to him he did everything he could have. He was much stronger in the air than Jones and did little wrong on the ball. Wow.... and I mean wow!!!! I'm not saying he helped the team hence he 'wasn't what we needed' but given the circumstances, he did little wrong and was a lot better in the air. |
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Post by werrington on Sept 29, 2013 19:10:42 GMT
Wow.... and I mean wow!!!! I'm not saying he helped the team hence he 'wasn't what we needed' but given the circumstances, he did little wrong and was a lot better in the air. It's all about opinions mate and fair dos you have yours I thought he offered/offers us nothing and if anything we became a lot weaker when he came on if that was at all possible |
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Post by salopstick on Sept 29, 2013 19:17:22 GMT
Not just a go at us but Hughes seems to buy into this nonsense , I'm all for passing the ball but without pace and momentum it's garbage as we saw today We are over complicating it Rather than pass and move We pass, wait 10 secs to decide where to pass it to (usually the right hand side) Then lose the ball |
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Post by binthelplates on Sept 29, 2013 19:34:29 GMT
We'll soon become a parody of Arsenal, all that obsession with possession stats and passes completed.
It don't count for anything unless the ball goes in the net.
Until we get somebody do to that on a regular basis, it'll be all flare and no substance.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Sept 29, 2013 19:36:57 GMT
We played just 4 less passes than Arsenal during the second half of our game at the Emirates!
Let's celebrate!
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Post by minnierover on Sept 29, 2013 20:00:59 GMT
We'll soon become a parody of Arsenal, all that obsession with possession stats and passes completed. It don't count for anything unless the ball goes in the net. Until we get somebody do to that on a regular basis, it'll be all flare and no substance. Hmmm, not sure what you've been watching but we cannot be compared with arsenal, in any way, sadly. We don't don't even pass the ball, we try to but we don't find a team mate because it gets intercepted by the opposition. We are basically fucking shit right now. This thread is pathetic because it implies we have become a boring passing, possession obsessed team with no end product. Fact is we can't pass and we can't retain possession, as a result we have no end product. Give Hughes time, he's getting it wrong right now but then he is clearing up someone else's mess. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 29, 2013 20:03:09 GMT
We played just 4 less passes than Arsenal during the second half of our game at the Emirates! Let's celebrate! I bet your loving this aren't you? Pathetic. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2013 20:07:40 GMT
We played just 4 less passes than Arsenal during the second half of our game at the Emirates! Let's celebrate! I bet your loving this aren't you? Pathetic. still spending your evenings trying to pick fights on here you sad bastard |
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 29, 2013 20:09:16 GMT
I bet your loving this aren't you? Pathetic. still spending your evenings trying to pick fights on here you sad bastard No just posting my opinions, got a problem with that. Hang on there's a jones thread ongoing, run along little man. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2013 20:10:26 GMT
still spending your evenings trying to pick fights on here you sad bastard No just posting my opinions, got a problem with that. Hang on there's a jones thread ongoing, run along little man.  |
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Post by redandwhiteivy on Sept 29, 2013 20:14:04 GMT
The sooner we fuck Crouch off and he's no longer an option, the better for all concerned. Completely agree!!! |
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Sept 29, 2013 20:53:30 GMT
Our performance today was identical to the first half against Palace, absolutely no tempo at all. Personally I would've brought Assaidi on for Jones instead of Crouch and moved Arnie as the leading striker, we were crying out for an injection of pace and Crouch was never going to provide it. Spot on. Plus did you see how Norwich played it out quickly from the back and caught us on the hop a number of times? I counted three sharp and accurate passes finally linking onto a pacey winger and they were attacking our goal. The Baggies did it to Man U yesterday, Sessegnon's turning and attacking pace left the likes of knackered old carthorse Ferdinand and co for dead. The best sides break out quickly from the back and fill the oppositions box with pacey players. It's not rocket science. It was predictable, boring, slow, turgid fare from our lot; as a mate said later, if we had played on until next Thursday we still wouldn't have scored. Arnie was one of the few Stoke players who appeared to care and put a shift in for the side, I'd try him in a central role. |
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Post by thevoid on Sept 30, 2013 0:25:14 GMT
Our performance today was identical to the first half against Palace, absolutely no tempo at all. Personally I would've brought Assaidi on for Jones instead of Crouch and moved Arnie as the leading striker, we were crying out for an injection of pace and Crouch was never going to provide it. Said the same chief Bringing on Crouch when you are crying out for pace was nuts. - the poorest selection decision made by Hughes to date Almost as bad as loaning out Jerome. I'd rather see him come on than Crouch, at least he's a game changer. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Sept 30, 2013 7:52:57 GMT
Whatever style we play it has to be played about 30% faster than yesterday , Assadi needs to be tried in the league at least he is quick and someone has to get a grip of Wilson and Nzonzi both good players but with a tendency to doing the bare minimum they were dire yesterday .
Adam for whatever reason is not fit enough and the lack of a goalscorer remains a massive issue .
Lots of questions that need answering from yesterday and two winnable games coming up to begin to answer them
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Post by foster on Sept 30, 2013 8:03:03 GMT
I'm not saying he helped the team hence he 'wasn't what we needed' but given the circumstances, he did little wrong and was a lot better in the air. It's all about opinions mate and fair dos you have yours I thought he offered/offers us nothing and if anything we became a lot weaker when he came on if that was at all possible KJ, who 'apparently' suits our system was shit yesterday. Crouch, coming on when the team were playing like shite and not creating any opportunities was never going to be effective. At the end of the day, the KJ v Crouch debate is irrelevant, they both need replacing. |
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Post by metalhead on Sept 30, 2013 8:47:18 GMT
Thought Kenwyne was really poor and it infuriates me. He was brilliant against Man City, and a bit of luck short of a goal.
Yesterday, was a different game for him.
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