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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 12:38:59 GMT
Should have caught that. Very poor goalkeeping,
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 12:40:36 GMT
Post by pushon on Sept 22, 2013 12:40:36 GMT
I agree, I'm sorry to say.
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 13:04:49 GMT
Post by harrysburrow on Sept 22, 2013 13:04:49 GMT
Disappointing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 22, 2013 13:12:21 GMT
He probably should hold onto it but he pushes it away like he should if he chooses to, the follow up defending is as much to blame imo. And it's not just Walters, there's three of them in that box unmarked. Not good enough.
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 13:12:45 GMT
Post by harrysburrow on Sept 22, 2013 13:12:45 GMT
In fact, he's not been great at all so far?
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 13:14:41 GMT
Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 22, 2013 13:14:41 GMT
He looks a nervous wreck!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 13:22:14 GMT
Two soft goals now.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Sept 22, 2013 13:22:30 GMT
Not his best game.
Shame considering we've done quite well today.
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 13:23:19 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Sept 22, 2013 13:23:19 GMT
Both goals were soft. Perhaps it wasn't meant to be. Still 45 minutes to change that.
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 13:26:14 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 22, 2013 13:26:14 GMT
It's a bastarding good finish too for the first. If that falls to one ours it's in row z .
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 13:27:02 GMT
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Post by borat on Sept 22, 2013 13:27:02 GMT
Shite first half, poor on both goals.
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 13:29:26 GMT
Post by stokemanusa on Sept 22, 2013 13:29:26 GMT
I thought bego was really all over and didn't protect his line well.
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 14:03:00 GMT
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 22, 2013 14:03:00 GMT
Could argue he's been at fault for all three goals today.
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Post by kettle2013 on Sept 22, 2013 14:10:09 GMT
Struggled on all 3 of their goals today I think!
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 14:14:19 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 22, 2013 14:14:19 GMT
Not the third. But the other two aren't clever. The third Wilson and Walters only deserve the "credit" imo. He should never get a header in there. Bego only saves that if he's standing on that post imo. It's a bloody good header.
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 14:33:21 GMT
Post by mickmacc on Sept 22, 2013 14:33:21 GMT
Worst I've ever seen him today.
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 14:57:43 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 14:57:43 GMT
A poor game this afternoon, however I think we can forgive him for one.....how many points has he saved us over time? Enough to keep us in the league.
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 14:59:17 GMT
Post by Trouserdog on Sept 22, 2013 14:59:17 GMT
How long before some idiot starts wanting Sorenson back in?
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Post by stokester1989 on Sept 22, 2013 15:18:55 GMT
Without bego we would be destined to the championship he keeps us in a lot of the games. His performance against Liverpool was world class. It's other areas we should be worried about like our attack. At the moment I can only see Arni as a threat.
Not the best day for begovic but each of arsenal goals could be put down to our defenders
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 19:29:23 GMT
Post by wembley1972 on Sept 22, 2013 19:29:23 GMT
Off days for keepers lose you the game, Bego had an off day. On the positive side, he doesn't have very many, still our top keeper and one every other team in the league wish they had. Kept us in the league last year! I won't be giving him any stick.
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Post by swampySCFC on Sept 22, 2013 20:11:32 GMT
At fault for two but dont think the defenders were too clever in protecting him today. Overall though we looked ok in outfield play
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 20:25:11 GMT
Post by partickpotter on Sept 22, 2013 20:25:11 GMT
Not the third. But the other two aren't clever. The third Wilson and Walters only deserve the "credit" imo. He should never get a header in there. Bego only saves that if he's standing on that post imo. It's a bloody good header. Don't fault him for the second either; he was anticipating Koscielny heading it not missing it. Which is fair enough. Shawcross, btw, shoud have been much tighter on Koscielny. For the first most keepers will parry rather than catch; the error was pushing the ball back into a dangerous area. He, of course, wasn't helped by SJW daydreaming!
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Bego
Sept 22, 2013 21:28:46 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 22, 2013 21:28:46 GMT
Not the third. But the other two aren't clever. The third Wilson and Walters only deserve the "credit" imo. He should never get a header in there. Bego only saves that if he's standing on that post imo. It's a bloody good header. Don't fault him for the second either; he was anticipating Koscielny heading it not missing it. Which is fair enough. Shawcross, btw, shoud have been much tighter on Koscielny. For the first most keepers will parry rather than catch; the error was pushing the ball back into a dangerous area. He, of course, wasn't helped by SJW daydreaming! And I think he might be slightly fouled on the second but it's soft. And I don't think the parry is that bad tbh, it's wide enough but it's just a very good finish imo.
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Bego
Sept 23, 2013 9:42:19 GMT
Post by podolipotter on Sept 23, 2013 9:42:19 GMT
1. Bego could and should have held that free kick. 2. He should have kept his eye on the ball - not on Koscielny. 3. He was in no-man's land for the header. Conclusion. He cost us the game - but that proves he is only human and thankfully he is top-notch most other times. I for one, do not condemn him and know that he will come back much more positive for the next game.
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Bego
Sept 23, 2013 10:06:47 GMT
Post by metalhead on Sept 23, 2013 10:06:47 GMT
Don't fault him for the second either; he was anticipating Koscielny heading it not missing it. Which is fair enough. Shawcross, btw, shoud have been much tighter on Koscielny. For the first most keepers will parry rather than catch; the error was pushing the ball back into a dangerous area. He, of course, wasn't helped by SJW daydreaming! And I think he might be slightly fouled on the second but it's soft. And I don't think the parry is that bad tbh, it's wide enough but it's just a very good finish imo. While I agree with your first point, I'm not sure I agree with the second. I would have liked to see a really slow action replay, because there looked to be some fouling going on between players, let alone the keeper, anyway that happens all the time. Header comes in, Koscielny throws himself across Bego and definitely catches his leg. The argument for giving the goal though, is I'm not convinced Bego was ever getting there regardless. We'd have been very angry if that goal hadn't been given (no doubt it wouldn't have, Arsenal players would have rolled around and Mike would have given it) Your second point I totally disagree with. It was a soft free kick and an even softer bit of goalkeeping. Adam was clumsy beyond belief to give it (he was shit all game though so...) but then when it came in, Bego should have either tipped it round for a corner or grabbed it. I can't understand why he even parried it the way he did, it was a very poor piece of goalkeeping in my opinion. I will agree though it was an excellent finish from the Milky Bar kid who's leg luckily didn't fly off into the stand (obviously would have been Shawcross fault).
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Bego
Sept 23, 2013 10:10:57 GMT
Post by mtrstudent on Sept 23, 2013 10:10:57 GMT
I think asking him to hold it is a bit much. It whipped round the wall so he was probably unsighted right until the end and placing yourself to safely catch it is always hard in those situations. Should really have been able to direct it round the post for a corner, but based on our defending yesterday that would have been a goal anyway...
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Bego
Sept 23, 2013 10:14:47 GMT
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Post by fortressbritannia on Sept 23, 2013 10:14:47 GMT
He probably should hold onto it but he pushes it away like he should if he chooses to, the follow up defending is as much to blame imo. And it's not just Walters, there's three of them in that box unmarked. Not good enough. It's harsh to blame the followup defending imo if you're pushing away you have tip it around the post or well away. He's pushed it right into his path there's nothing nobody could have done about it.
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Post by Discovery Stoke on Sept 23, 2013 10:15:24 GMT
IMO he kept us up last season. He's had one 'dodgy' game this season and people are saying he should be dropped? Wow.
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Bego
Sept 23, 2013 17:25:18 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 23, 2013 17:25:18 GMT
And I think he might be slightly fouled on the second but it's soft. And I don't think the parry is that bad tbh, it's wide enough but it's just a very good finish imo. While I agree with your first point, I'm not sure I agree with the second. I would have liked to see a really slow action replay, because there looked to be some fouling going on between players, let alone the keeper, anyway that happens all the time. Header comes in, Koscielny throws himself across Bego and definitely catches his leg. The argument for giving the goal though, is I'm not convinced Bego was ever getting there regardless. We'd have been very angry if that goal hadn't been given (no doubt it wouldn't have, Arsenal players would have rolled around and Mike would have given it) Your second point I totally disagree with. It was a soft free kick and an even softer bit of goalkeeping. Adam was clumsy beyond belief to give it (he was shit all game though so...) but then when it came in, Bego should have either tipped it round for a corner or grabbed it. I can 't understand why he even parried it the way he did, it was a very poor piece of goalkeeping in my opinion. I will agree though it was an excellent finish from the Milky Bar kid who's leg luckily didn't fly off into the stand (obviously would have been Shawcross fault). Oh I agree but if You touch a 'keeper nowadays it's a foul but it is soft. He should do that but even so where he parries is wide enough imo, it's not good goalkeeping though. He probably should hold onto it but he pushes it away like he should if he chooses to, the follow up defending is as much to blame imo. And it's not just Walters, there's three of them in that box unmarked. Not good enough. It's harsh to blame the followup defending imo if you're pushing away you have tip it around the post or well away. He's pushed it right into his path there's nothing nobody could have done about it. 2 men in the box were free and the one man being marked wasn't being marked properly. It's schoolboy stuff, You always follow up or track those following up in case the 'keeper does parry it. We've been shit at following up defensively and offensively since I can remember though. And of course there's something someone could have done, if You react quicker You get to the ball first or get back enough to get the block in. Our players had their fingers up their arseholes. IMO he kept us up last season. He's had one 'dodgy' game this season and people are saying he should be dropped? Wow. On this thread at least, nobody has said they want him dropped!
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Bego
Sept 23, 2013 17:29:01 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Sept 23, 2013 17:29:01 GMT
On another day he'd probably keep all the three of them out!
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